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Fighting Errors in the Modern World / Re: Validity of the Russian Orthodox church?
« Last post by SimpleMan on Yesterday at 02:30:52 PM »No. The matter of an ecclesial body having grace or lacking grace and Byzantine matrimonial theology amongst the schismatics are wholly unrelated matters.I am sorry, I conflated this with the concept of sacraments having or lacking grace.
But isn't there also a concept, amongst the schismatics, of being more able to say where grace is, than to say where it is not, and a fuzzier notion of sacramental validity?
For the Orthodox, everything seems to hinge on whether one is "in the Church" (i.e., in Orthodoxy) or not, and that sacraments outside of Orthodoxy are per se invalid (but the again, there's that "where grace is versus where grace is not" thing), but may be convalidated, after a fashion, once the (in their eyes) schismatic Christian is received into Orthodoxy? I have in mind a Catholic priest (God forbid) becoming Orthodox, something about his being chrismated and (I think) vested, making his priestly orders valid without the orders themselves having to be conferred (either absolutely or conditionally)?