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That would not be love and mercy at all if the Chair of St Peter is redundant now, and letting the laity float around lost
in confusion, while having to deal with their own afflictions in their daily lives. This whole thing opened a whole new can of worms, so yes something is definitely not right here, unfortunately. :'(

Many people who have been in the Church much longer than you have lost the faith due to deciding what would and what would not be "love and mercy at all."  They experience some tragedy in life and decide that it's not "love and mercy", and then proceed to reject God and their faith.  Everything with God is love and mercy, even if in our pea brains we don't realize it.  Suffering allows for growth, and offers opportunity to grow in the faith.  You need to have faith that everything that God does is perfectly compatible with the utmost love and mercy, even if we don't understand it now.  I've had many things happen in my life where, at the time, it didn't make any sense, but then 10, 15, 20 years later it dawned on me, "NOW I see why this happened and why it was good."  Whether we know the why or the how right now doesn't change the fact that we know that everything God does is always perfectly loving and merciful.

If a young child, say 3 or 4 years old, is told by his parents not to play in the street, and perhaps is even disciplined or punished as a deterrent against playing in the street, from their perspective his parents are mean, and always out to spoil their fun.  They don't realize the dangers of playing in the street and that the parents are trying to keep him from getting hurt or killed.  Or if a parent will not allow a child to eat cake and candy all day.  He thinks, again, "my parents seem to have a mission in life just to ruin my fun".  That's precisely where we stand vis-a-vis God, and the gap between us and God is infinitely greater than between these young children and their adult guardians.  With our pea brains we sometimes can't comprehend why God allows something, but we have absolute faith that, whatever the reasons are, that we haven't figured out yet, they're good reasons and God is allowing everything to happen for our good.

Sacred Scripture is replete with descriptions about how gold is tested and purified in fire, explaining that sufferings are intended to strengthen and to purify.  Unfortunately, the Novus Ordo instills in people an absurd false notion of "love and mercy" where everything needs to be all roses all the time ... and that is a completely false and absurdly shallow view of "love and mercy".  If I see someone eating a piece of cake that has been poisoned, what is the more loving and merciful thing to do, to say, "I'll let him keep eating the cake because I don't want to deprive him of the pleasure of consuming that delicious cake." or I run over there and violently / abruptly slap it out of his hand before he can take a bite?  This shallow Novus Ordo view of "love and mercy" is tantamount to holding that the first response, to let him eat the cake, is the "loving and merciful" one.
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The news of the church being so divided when Jesus promised that no gates of Hell will prevail against it, being told that there is no leadership or power in the Church that can lead the laity or deal with my annulment, or we can't even trust priests....all these show me (a novice Catholic) that the fruits produced pertaining to these are strife, confusion and dissent, that or Jesus lied when he said no gates of Hell will prevail against the Church.

This has been foretold, that the Church would have to follow Christ in His Passion, that there would be a Great Apostasy or falling away right before the end times.  People said that same thing about Christ, that He had failed and that Hell and death had prevailed ... until He rose from the dead.  Our Lord Himself pointed out that His followers would have to suffer, even as He did, since a servant is not greater than his master, so it's also been foretold that the Church would have to undergo a similar Passion, when all would appear lost and the Church defeated.  But these are appearances only.
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The news of the church being so divided when Jesus promised that no gates of Hell will prevail against it, being told that there is no leadership or power in the Church that can lead the laity or deal with my annulment, or we can't even trust priests....all these show me (a novice Catholic) that the fruits produced pertaining to these are strife, confusion and dissent, that or Jesus lied when he said no gates of Hell will prevail against the Church.

All these confusion, anguish and turmoil I face now that I am at the position that I either have faith in what He promised, or if I am not careful, I fear I might just abandon it all together again. Somehow I find it hard to believe that despite the politics, the trials of the Church and the human errors within the Church, that God would leave the leadership unmanned. The damage cause by the divisions among the laity and the Church is very devastating, and souls get lost due to such fruits.

That would not be love and mercy at all if the Chair of St Peter is redundant now, and letting the laity float around lost
in confusion, while having to deal with their own afflictions in their daily lives. This whole thing opened a whole new can of worms, so yes something is definitely not right here, unfortunately. :'(
Try to not be too discouraged.  We do live in dark times, but there is still hope.

The Israelites were exiled in Babylon for 70 years without a proper land or leader but God brought them out of it.  It has been about the sams time for us since Vatican II.  When the time is right He can easily do the same for us.

Please do not give up "fighting the good fight" and "running the good race" as Saint Paul would say.  Look not back but keep your eyes focused on the goal, heaven.

There has never been a generation where there was not fighting or bickering.  Such is the state of living in a fallen world.  There is no perfect peace until one rests with God in Heaven.
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P. S. The fact that you have only now been made aware of your marital situation and that your "priest" hasn't told you anything about the matter should be an indication of who is of the Truth.
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The news of the church being so divided when Jesus promised that no gates of Hell will prevail against it, being told that there is no leadership or power in the Church that can lead the laity or deal with my annulment, or we can't even trust priests....all these show me (a novice Catholic) that the fruits produced pertaining to these are strife, confusion and dissent, that or Jesus lied when he said no gates of Hell will prevail against the Church.

All these confusion, anguish and turmoil I face now that I am at the position that I either have faith in what He promised, or if I am not careful, I fear I might just abandon it all together again. Somehow I find it hard to believe that despite the politics, the trials of the Church and the human errors within the Church, that God would leave the leadership unmanned. The damage cause by the divisions among the laity and the Church is very devastating, and souls get lost due to such fruits.

That would not be love and mercy at all if the Chair of St Peter is redundant now, and letting the laity float around lost
in confusion, while having to deal with their own afflictions in their daily lives. This whole thing opened a whole new can of worms, so yes something is definitely not right here, unfortunately. :'(
Precisely because the gates of hell cannot prevail do we have to conclude that these impostors are not the hierarchy. 

You've used the term 'gates of Hell', but do you know what it means?

The gates fo Hell are defined as the "death-dealing tongues of heretics" or "the disputations of heretics".

If the Church were led by the notorious heretics leading the fake Novus Ordo Church, then that would mean the gates of Hell have prevailed.

But since that's impossible, the only possible conclusion is that they're not true popes and bishops of the Catholic Church.

With regard to the confusion, it's in line with the maxim "strike the shepherd and the sheep shall be scattered". It's just more evidence of the shepherd being missing.

Regarding your idea that God wouldn't allow this to happen, that's just your feeling, and as they say, facts don't care about your feelings.

Father Edmund James O'Reilly, The Relations of the Church to Society - Theological Essays, 1882, Page 287-288: "The great schism of the West suggests to me a reflection which I take the liberty of expressing here. If this schism had not occurred, the hypothesis of such a thing happening would appear to many chimerical. They would say it could not be; God would not permit the Church to come into so unhappy a situation.Heresies might spring up and spread and last painfully long, through the fault and to the perdition of their authors and abettors, to the great distress too of the faithful, increased by actual persecution in many places where the heretics were dominant. But that Catholics should be divided on the question of who was Pontiff, that the true Church should remain between thirty and forty years without a thoroughly ascertained Head, and representative of Christ on earth, this would not be. Yet it has been and we have no guarantee that it will not be again, though we may fervently hope other wise. What I would infer is, that we must not be too ready to pronounce on what God may permit. We know with absolute certainty that He will fulfil His promises; that He will not allow anything to occur at variance with them; that He will sustain His Church and enable her to triumph over all enemies and difficulties ; [...] But we, or our successors in future generations of Christians, shall perhaps see stranger evils than have yet been experienced, even before the immediate approach of that great winding up of all things on earth that will precede the day of judgment. I am not setting up for a prophet, nor pretending to see unhappy wonders, of which I have no knowledge whatever. All I mean to convey is that contingencies regarding the Church, not excluded by the Divine promises, cannot be regarded as practically impossible, because they would be terrible and distressing in a very high degree."
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Politics and World Leaders / Re: "doesn't exist here"
« Last post by Godefroy on Today at 02:16:39 AM »
The constitution has been applied arbitrarily since almost the very start. The United States lasted from 1776 to 1861. Since then it has become a messianic enterprise that regards the rest of the world with the same disdain as it regarded the american indians, who had the misfortune of simply existing in the territories that protestants coveted. 
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Don't lose hope. It's only another trial. All is worth it for an eternity with the infinite God. I have to say, I'm baffled by this recent development. Something just doesn't seem right. Surely there's some resolution in this current crisis in the church. Perhaps some sort of supplied jurisdiction for the case of this marriage to be judged if the authority of the apostates in Rome can't be trusted.

Read up on Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, his letters, speeches, sermons, and also Bishop Antonio de Castro Meyer. It's incredible they persevered against the Pope and their colleagues, but they knew they were thoroughly backed by the truth of Tradition.

God has brought you this far, even to this forum, don't stop now.

"But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth?"
The news of the church being so divided when Jesus promised that no gates of Hell will prevail against it, being told that there is no leadership or power in the Church that can lead the laity or deal with my annulment, or we can't even trust priests....all these show me (a novice Catholic) that the fruits produced pertaining to these are strife, confusion and dissent, that or Jesus lied when he said no gates of Hell will prevail against the Church.

All these confusion, anguish and turmoil I face now that I am at the position that I either have faith in what He promised, or if I am not careful, I fear I might just abandon it all together again. Somehow I find it hard to believe that despite the politics, the trials of the Church and the human errors within the Church, that God would leave the leadership unmanned. The damage cause by the divisions among the laity and the Church is very devastating, and souls get lost due to such fruits.

That would not be love and mercy at all if the Chair of St Peter is redundant now, and letting the laity float around lost
in confusion, while having to deal with their own afflictions in their daily lives. This whole thing opened a whole new can of worms, so yes something is definitely not right here, unfortunately. :'(
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Politics and World Leaders / Re: "doesn't exist here"
« Last post by Viva Cristo Rey on Today at 12:11:03 AM »
For this communist luciferian judge to say that the second amendment doesn’t exist is criminal.  
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Politics and World Leaders / AZ senate candidate's abortion ad
« Last post by Geremia on Yesterday at 11:31:02 PM »

U.S. Senate candidate Gallego's anti-Lake ad actually portrays her positively (considering her recent abortion backpedaling):
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