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Absolutely agree.  And looking back at Church history, did the Church ever retroactively say that the 90% of bishops who were arian had lost their offices or weren't real bishops?  No.  Why not?  My opinion is that it's not necessary.  The prudent course of action is to simply separate yourself from the quasi-heretic until the Church deals with it.  

Absolutely.  We are in complete agreement here.  That's why I said that I like Father Chazal's "quarantine" term or lean sedeprivationist.  Sedeprivationism holds that they remain materially in office until the Church officially disposes otherwise.  In the meantime, they do not formally exercise any authority over us due to their heresy.  Sedeprivationism lines up exactly with what you're saying.  What's the alternative?  To hold our own lay conclave and elect Pope Michael I?
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But Siscoe says after more carefully studying the doctrine of universal acceptance, he now has no further doubts that Pope Francis is the Successor of St. Peter. 

Well, that should settle it right there.  If Siscoe has no doubts, then the matter is closed.
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General Discussion / Blasphemy from Austria
« Last post by Kazimierz on Today at 09:48:08 AM »
The truly diabolical conciLIAR church sinks to yet another low.

https://novusordowatch.org/2019/03/jesus-clock-blasphemy-in-austria/
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So let's say you lived in the Arian crisis ... where the majority of the hierarchy became Arians.  How do you take your objection against Arianism to your local Bishop, when he too is an Arian?  That's what we have here.
Absolutely agree.  And looking back at Church history, did the Church ever retroactively say that the 90% of bishops who were arian had lost their offices or weren't real bishops?  No.  Why not?  My opinion is that it's not necessary.  The prudent course of action is to simply separate yourself from the quasi-heretic until the Church deals with it.  If the Church is in such chaos that She can't deal with it, or most clerics don't see the error, then laymen and simple priests have the unenviable position of waiting...patiently... and relying on God to sort it out eventually.  One can't take matters into their own hands, as some sedes do, and start declaring that this or that person 1) is a formal heretic and 2) their office is empty.

At some point the Church cleared herself of the Arian heresy.  Did it happen overnight?  Heavens no, it took decades.  So shall V2 take a while to flush down the toilet.
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A doubt is supposed to spur you to work with your bishop and other Church authorities to change the situation and to get rid of the doubt.  There has to be a process; an appeal to authority; not an individual or personal decision.

I agree.  In a normal situation, you'd take your personal doubts to the Bishop, and escalate it up that way.  If there are grounds for your suspicions, then they'll take root and spread.

Problem is that this is not a normal situation.  Here the bishops are every bit as much the object of this same suspicion.

So let's say you lived in the Arian crisis ... where the majority of the hierarchy became Arians.  How do you take your objection against Arianism to your local Bishop, when he too is an Arian?  That's what we have here.
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My problem with this is how do you define "widespread doubt"?

Anything more than one or two crackpots who think the Pope might be a heretic.  You can find one of those during any papal reign.

But if significant numbers of Catholics begin questioning their orthodoxy, that's what is meant by "widespread doubt".  We CLEARLY have that in the case of Bergoglio.

In other words, I can't just wake up one morning, decide that a pope is a heretic, and then refuse submission.  But if significant numbers of Catholics begin to question him, then it's in a different category.
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Teen Catholic Hangout / Re: Funny Stuff
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