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Gravity makes no sense.
I am confused. One of the reasons given for the globe earth being false is that water would not stick to the globe, due to gravity. So if gravity is false, then why would it also be a reason against the globe earth? 
Anonymous Posts Allowed / Re: Self-Baptism
« Last post by Anonymous on Yesterday at 11:40:14 PM »
From the Compendium of the Catechism of the Catholic Church;

256. In what does the essential rite of Baptism consist?

The essential rite of this sacrament consists in immersing the candidate in water or pouring water over his or her head while invoking the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. sacraments of Christian initiation
Anonymous Posts Allowed / Re: Self-Baptism
« Last post by poche on Yesterday at 11:34:33 PM »
From the Code of Canon Law;

 Can.  849 Baptism, the gateway to the sacraments and necessary for salvation by actual reception or at least by desire, is validly conferred only by a washing of true water with the proper form of words. Through baptism men and women are freed from sin, are reborn as children of God, and, configured to Christ by an indelible character, are incorporated into the Church.
That has nothing at all to do with methodology.  
You want to run the Dimond checklist on me so you can get triggered and hit the reset button, go back to square one and wax sensationally about it. I know the tactics, you're pretty much all the same, and very predictable; chances are, your next reply will include something about me being oily like a heretic, or slippery and elusive, incapable of answering a simple question, and so on.  You're not the first, and probably not the last, person to develop a man crush on the sensational Dimond boys and parrot their tactics on the web.  You'll (hopefully!) grow out of it.
In either event, I'm quite content with what I wrote, and it IS a question of methodology (at its heart, anyway); if it has as many falsities as you claim, then it'll be no problem for you to overcome. 
The Sacred: Catholic Liturgy, Chant, Prayers / Re: Padre Pio
« Last post by poche on Yesterday at 11:26:04 PM »
Padre Pio told another young man who was wearing only pants and a sweater that he should go away and come back wearing the cowl of St. Dominic. Confused and embarrassed, the young man confessed in front of everyone to being a Dominican priest.
Health and Nutrition / Re: Friday or not, whats your dinner?
« Last post by poche on Yesterday at 11:25:00 PM »
Today for dinner I had rice with brocolli, vidalia onions, colalrd greens, carrots, string beans, and roast chicken wings.
:ready-to-eat: :ready-to-eat: :ready-to-eat:
Well, this just went from zero to crazy quick, fast, and in a hurry. There is no sanctity in one who thinks that it doesn't matter, "practically" or otherwise. Keep your "we". I want no part of it. Even the conciliars aren't this jacked up.

In the practical order and otherwise you don't have the option that you are trying to exercize.

Catholics MUST BE papal SUBJECTS.We don't get to not decide.

Just because we may be wrong does not excuse us from decision.

Did people in the GWS just go "meh"?

No, and all the popes then, valid or not, were CATHOLIC. There were saints on all sides. They didn't get that way by going "practically speaking"

The first in line for Hell are cowards. For good of souls, firstly your own, look it up (Apocalypse) and really think.

Oh, it is very relevant. 'Practically speaking" you deny papal primacy at the very least. That makes you, at minimum, "proper" matter for being both a heretic and, as it doesnt matter,  "practically speaking" a schismatic. "Pope? Who cares?  Doesn't matter 'practically speaking'"

Point: 1p5 1, faith none
This has nothing to do with my point, which is that practically speaking, it makes no difference if the chair of St Peter is empty or occupied by a horrible catholic.  Either way, the Church suffers and we laity have to wait til God clears things up. 

So let's concentrate on a topic we can all control, like growing in sanctity and converting our neighbor.  The problem of the papacy is unsolvable, humanly speaking. 
Fighting Errors in the Modern World / Re: The Fruits of the Flat Earth Position
« Last post by Meg on Yesterday at 10:58:29 PM »
You're becoming a tad bit unhinged, Neil. 

Time for me to bow out of the thread.
The reaction of Lover of Heresy to my question is another very clear example of his bad will.  

With regard to Mithandyland, your response, despite containing a number of paragraphs, doesn't answer the question.  It is vapid.  It veers off into other topics, and it contains numerous false statements and false arguments.  Many things could be written to expose it.  However, there is a simple way to demonstrate that neither you nor your methodology is Catholic.  Fr. Bernard Welp of the CMRI stated that he agreed with Fr. Denis Fahey that Jews who reject Jesus Christ can be in the state of grace and saved.  That's the position of the CMRI, etc.  That's what they believe.  So, Mithandyland, is their position heretical?  

You can find the documentation for Welp's statement here: Below are a few of the relevant quotes.

Fr. Denis Fahey, The Kingship of Christ and the Conversion of the Jewish Nation (1953), p. 52: “The Jews, as a nation, are objectively aiming at giving society a direction which is in complete opposition to the order God wants.  It is possible that a member of the Jewish Nation, who rejects Our Lord, may have the supernatural life which God wishes to see in every soul, and so be good with the goodness God wants, but objectively, the direction he is seeking to give to the world is opposed to God and to that life, and therefore is not good.  If a Jew who rejects our Lord is good in the way God demands, it is in spite of the movement in which he and his nation are engaged.”
Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, Against the Heresies, p. 216: “Evidently, certain distinctions must be made.  Souls can be saved in a religion other than the Catholic religion (Protestantism, Islam, Buddhism, etc.), but not by this religion.   There may be souls who, not knowing Our Lord, have by the grace of the good Lord, good interior dispositions, who submit to God…  But some of these persons make an act of love which implicitly is equivalent to baptism of desire.  It is uniquely by this means that they are able to be saved.”

To the question, do you agree with the statements made by Fr. Denis Fahey and Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, Fr. Bernard Welp of the CMRI responded on Nov. 16, 2016, by saying:
“Certainly.  As catholics we do not accept the false idea of universal salvation promoted at V II.  Souls cannot be saved outside the church but those who seek God receive baptism (thus become part of the church) of desire IF: 1- ignorance is invincible 2 they have supernatural faith 3 Supernatural charity.  I have answered your question…”
Fighting Errors in the Modern World / Re: The Fruits of the Flat Earth Position
« Last post by OHCA on Yesterday at 10:26:43 PM »
A most conspicuous bad fruit of flat-earthism is that those outside the Church look at flat-earthers who represent themselves as being extra specially faithful to traditional Church teaching (which is not true) and they respond by saying these guys are a bunch of cretins. Why would they want anything to do with traditional Catholicism if they would have to associate with a throwback mentality?
If the Catholic faith is going to have any appeal to outsiders it had best not adopt a patently false cosmology like flat-earthism.
It is not by advocating fables and errors that can be shown erroneous by simple observation that we will ever be able to spread the true Faith.
I am quite suspicious that Happenby a bunch of the 15-post flat-earthers are plants to make Catholics and "conspiracy theorists" look like a bunch of kooks.  They take a few truths--NASA can't be trusted; man didn't go to the moon; geocentrism--and make them seem inextricably intwined with the hare-brained notion of flat-earth, proclaimed most ardently by the 10th grade educated, a few puffed-up proud of whom done got that GED, trailer park residents with YouTube smash-hits about alien abductions and describing the tornado that roared through Tin-Can Estates.
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