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Crisis in the Church / Re: Fr. Chazal response to Mr Chojnowski
« Last post by MyrnaM on Today at 03:41:16 PM »
I posted this today on my blog:  Catholic Church vs. The Vatican

It’s difficult these days to defend the Catholic church when the world looks at the Vatican as the center of Catholicism, yet they are wrong!
Why should we be surprised, doesn’t, the Bible warn of a Great falling away from the Church that Christ found, St. Peter the rock as His first Vicar. Today we see and being foretold of this crisis in II Thessalonians. Speaking in Thessalonians of the Second Coming of Christ, the end times. Chapter 2
By falling away, I mean in numbers, “But yet the Son of man, when He cometh, shall He find, think you, faith on earth?” Luke 18:8

Then again …
… we also have His promise that even the gates of hell will never prevail against His Church. “And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock, I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” Matthew 16:18.
IN OTHER-WORDS PERPETUAL
So what happened? You might be thinking, and the difference between Traditional Catholicism and your mainstream neighborhood Church is Vatican II   —  came about in the 60’s.  Why?
God allowed this to happen because Catholics, (myself included)  and religious for the most part but not all, were becoming worldly.  Therefore, He who always gives us our desire;  Vatican II adapted to the world as you can see clearly for yourself by the —example of the goings on within the Vatican and trickling down throughout the world.

DECADENCE!
Its called infiltration by Modernists, Freemasons and or Illuminati. None of which hold to the Catholic Faith.  Beware of the New World Order.—

Stay firm to the teachings you have learned from the beginning we hear in IIThessalonians you can't do that and accept the new church.  
Regarding authority: Authority exists to the Churches, not the Church living for the sake of authority. Authority is a concern for the sheep; read John 21; 15-17. “Feed My sheep.”
This Authority or Power; “Let every soul be subject to higher powers: for there is no power but from God: and those that are, are ordained of God.”
We see here how God has given authority to His Church to feed His sheep, as in John 21; 15-17.
What happens in the case of the current “pope” who is not feeding the sheep? Is Vatican II a church that has adapted to the world existing; existing only for the sake of said authority? NO!

This jurisdiction/power is gone. God will not be mocked.
Does the Church that Christ found still exist. OF COURSE and with AUTHORITY!


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Most folk do not read the small print .... their time is precious. And if they did and truly understood it, would they want to change their habits? The politics of the situation is over their heads and is best sorted out by venerable Lefebvre, diplomatic Fellay or herder Phluger who will always see them right. If there is an accurate definition for the Society as a feature in the lives of those so attached, it must be the attraction in a becoming rather than in a being. The becoming can span many generations and enjoy much amendment. The being is the preserve of the old guard either side of the SSPX enclosure. And here we open a philosophical can of worms .....
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General Discussion / Re: Men, the system is against you
« Last post by Jaynek on Today at 03:08:33 PM »
Croix, I agree with you that men are at a disadvantage in family court these days. When God has been taken out of marriage, this is the unavoidable end. But we are Catholic- we don't go the way of the world.

A man who vows his love and devotion to a woman, then insists on a prenup is specious. He neither loves her in justice or is devoted to her because he is not willing to sacrifice himself. He has rejected Christs call to love his wife as he loved His Church. He is concerned primarily with himself, and has allowed himself to become a product of these times. A wise man will find a wife of noble character or not marry at all. And if the man should be so unfortunate as to marry a woman that turns sour, then he will do as the most masculine of all men did and bear his cross with patience.

A woman in hopes of a traditional marriage has just as much on the line if she is to take her true place as heart of the home. She has to trust in her husband to completely provide for her materially. This is so difficult when the finances seem hopeless. She must give up any worldly aspirations of career and education to give her whole self to nurturing her husband and children. She must lovingly look to her husband as leader and guide, and she must submit to his authority as head of the home. She must always seek to please her husband and do it cheerfully without counting the cost. As a married woman, I'll be the first to say that this is incredibly difficult, and sometimes I fail and have to start over the next day.  It takes dying to ones self daily, and most of all it means casting all of our worries and anxieties on God, knowing that these sacrifices won't go unnoticed by God as he gives us graces from the marriage sacrament.

It's true that a good woman is hard to find- but when you do find her, you are called to sacrifice as much and more than she does if you are to take her as your wife. A prenup does not fit into this arrangement. So much of a woman's worth comes from her being a helpmeet to her husband. She thrives on his approval and affirmation of her worthy qualities. To start off the marriage with conditions based on mistrust is not the way to go. You'd be setting yourself and her up for a failed marriage, which lets be honest, is most often a quick way to hell.
Jen, thanks for this. I really appreciated your thoughts on the duties of a wife.
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Who is the man in the 6th photo, in the ill-fitting denim jacket, surrounded by children?
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Someone asked me for it, and I had to dig it up. Just a "back to basics" post, to remember what the Resistance is all about.
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General Discussion / Re: Men Considering Marriage, Watch This First
« Last post by MMagdala on Today at 03:02:44 PM »
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Our sspx priest does not help women.  He tells them to see their doctor to get drugs.
Drugs for what purpose?  What type of drugs?
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Anonymous Posts Allowed / Re: St John vianney & Theresa Avila
« Last post by Anonymous on Today at 02:58:28 PM »


Abortion was not rare.  My mother told me that when she was a little girl in her little town there was an old woman who was famed for her potions that would get a girl out of trouble.  
 
Such "potions" are still available.  Women who tend to rely on herbs for everything often use three herbs together, which I will not name due to the possibility of scandal and misappropriation. I remember this because I was using herbs for other reasons about the time I was pregnant, and out of maximum precaution I stayed away from those 3 herbs, even separately, for that very reason.
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I can see what you are saying, and it makes sense that there is more to consider than simply setting a boundary. However, given my experience with them, it seems much more a situation of enmeshment than a fear of getting in trouble with the state. Also a false charity. In fact it reminds me very much of my own family. My mother thought she was doing a work of charity by taking in an old catholic man who could no longer live by himself. He regularly said inappropriate things, but she totally ignored it. When he came to live with my family he constantly made sexual comments to my little sisters. He told other people he was in a relationship with my mom. My mother excused it, saying old people lose their inhibitions.  When he could no longer live with them she made my sisters visit him in the nursing home is the name of charity,  where he continued to make sexual comments, jokes and passes at my sisters. My mom was convinced that what she was doing was charitable, despite the fact that she was degrading her own children. I really sense my friend is doing the same thing.
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You're much closer to the situation than I am, so your impression is worth more.
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If/when your husband talks to the other husband, I'd love to hear how that went.  Even if they're mainly to fault for this, perhaps their friendship with you is in some sense their way of trying to figure out a way to become better with the boundary issues.  In my experience, people who are poor at setting boundaries and who lack courage do not typically make a habit of getting close to people who take them very seriously-- you might have something useful to teach them!
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Sadly, many children are now being raised in homes such as this one.  The children and even sometimes adults have no say in where or with whom they live.  People TRULY DO NOT KNOW what's natural and normal. How can they when they've never experienced or seen it, or when they are helpless to change their situation?  

Obviously, the father cannot order an adult male (?) out of a house that is not his.  It sounds to me as if the father is emasculated in so far as his rightful authority over his family's living conditions.  I think the two MEN should have a talk about getting the Catholic family out of the situation.  Is there anyone in your chapel who can rent or sell them a home of their own?  Even temporarily?  If the homosexual nephew is 18 or 19, and of sound mind, then he has made his choice.  Pray for him, yes, but there isn't anything else to do when one is a guest in another man's castle.  Man is a social animal.  He cannot survive entirely alone for an indefinite, extended time.  Like it or not, we are Catholics IN THE WORLD.

Speak with your children as appropriate to their ages about this effeminate man.  Warn them to keep their distance, but do so in a way that they keep their minds free of him.  Morbid curiosity can quickly turn to sin.
Definitely do not vacation with them!
Possibly go out to eat or to a public place for a picnic with them, but if you do, be sure the children are directly supervised by you or your husband at all times.  No private, kids-only play or conversation allowed. 

I have a female cousin whose elder son has made himself into a woman.  He now has a "partner" of unknown gender.  The "couple" live with my cousin, her shack-up male partner, his adult lesbian daughter, and my cousin's two minor children, a girl of 8 and a boy of 11, both from different prior relationships. The adults all receive welfare and all but one work off the books at various jobs.  There are three new vehicles in the driveway, an in-the-ground pool out back, patio, barbecue pit, nice landscaping professionally done.  They go on cruises several times a year, and they own two Great Danes and a Collie. 

Twenty years ago, this cousin was married to a man, had three children with that man.  The man was gainfully employed at a printing firm.  My cousin made custom cakes to sell from home and was mainly a homemaker, wife, and mother.  They owned two used cars, went on picnics, or visiting for vacations, and lived in a small starter house in a working class neighborhood.  Hubby was a volunteer fire fighter.  They were married at St. Rita's RC Church, and went to Mass (n.o.) every week.  My cousin taught the First Holy Communion catechism class to second graders for a few years.  

What happened?  Husband was caught cheating, they separated, divorced.  Husband took two girls, wife, the boy.  Husband moved back to U.K., remarried, girls visited a few times then drifted away.  Wife lost 95 lbs., got plastic surgery, started a partying lifestyle, went through man after man, tried out a woman, son left to raise himself, was abused by mom's boyfriends, decided he was "gay," then that he wasn't , he was a woman in a man's body. Had surgery, hormones, the works.  Cousin gets abandoned with a boy by one guy, a girl by another.  Current guy's adult lesbian daughter becomes homeless, moves in with her father and his "family."   Mass?  Church?   God?   "You're joking, right?"

 VOILA!  The new normal American family!

As a child, my family used to get together with cousins family at least once a month.  We'd have cookouts, kids would play in yard, adults tslk, play jarts, badminton, we'd go on picnics at the river, swim, boat, fish...clean family fun after Sunday Mass or on Saturday.  All my cousins on both sides of our family lived similarly.  Grandparents and often neighborhood friends joined us.  

Out of this large extended family, there are only three people left who have kept the traditions and the Faith.  Me, age 60, Mom, 94, Dad, 88.  I never married; wanted to be a teaching sister, but there were no real ones left by the time I'd have tried it out.  Of three brothers and two sisters, all are divorced, one is "remarried," two are "shacked-up," one is deceased.  Two grandchildren exist, but their mother hasn't communicated with the family in a decade.  The boys would be high school age by now.  One sister calls Mom and Dad about once a month.  She never contacts me and despite living 12 miles from Mom and Dad, almost never visits them.  I live 85 miles, call every day, drive out out on Friday night and drive back very early on Monday morning.  I've discovered I basically cannot retire.  At 60, I work 55-60 hours at a private school teaching special needs children.  When I get home, I eat, shower, pray the Rosary, and fall into bed so I can get up and do it again the next day.  Saturdays I clean, shop, do laundry, and cook for the three of us.  Sundays we go to Mass if Mom's health allows.  If not, we read the Mass.  In the afternoon I do lesson plans, prep work, then go to bed by 8:30 as I have to be out by 3:50 am.  

VOILA!  THE NEW NORMAL AMERICAN CATHOLIC FAMILY LIFE!

If we took surveys of such things at trad. chapels, and everyone was 100% honest, I think we'd discover almost nobody is unaffected by these sorts of problems.  
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In the abstract, I don't disagree at all.  I'm just saying that there are real practical considerations that affect a situation like this: him not being an adult, the legal nature of the relationship between them (did they actually adopt him or did he just happen to live with them and over time they became his de facto caregivers?), the fact that they have no legal power to remove him from the environment, the fact that if they try to "intervene" they could conceivably be reported to authorities, and so on.  These profoundly complicate this specific situation, even if in the abstract the best solution is already clear.
 I can see what you are saying, and it makes sense that there is more to consider than simply setting a boundary. However, given my experience with them, it seems much more a situation of enmeshment than a fear of getting in trouble with the state. Also a false charity. In fact it reminds me very much of my own family. My mother thought she was doing a work of charity by taking in an old catholic man who could no longer live by himself. He regularly said inappropriate things, but she totally ignored it. When he came to live with my family he constantly made sexual comments to my little sisters. He told other people he was in a relationship with my mom. My mother excused it, saying old people lose their inhibitions.  When he could no longer live with them she made my sisters visit him in the nursing home is the name of charity,  where he continued to make sexual comments, jokes and passes at my sisters. My mom was convinced that what she was doing was charitable, despite the fact that she was degrading her own children. I really sense my friend is doing the same thing. 
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