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WikiLeaks email subject: "Re: Conservative Catholicism"
« on: October 11, 2016, 07:55:53 PM »
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    Re: Conservative Catholicism

                   From:jhalpin@americanprogress.org
                   To: JPalmieri@americanprogress.org, john.podesta@gmail.com
                   Date: 2011-04-11 21:10
                   Subject: Re: Conservative Catholicism
                

                   Excellent point.  They can throw around "Thomistic" thought and "subsidiarity" and sound sophisticated because no one knows what the hell they're talking about.

    Jennifer Palmieri <JPalmieri@americanprogress.org> wrote:

    I imagine they think it is the most socially acceptable politically conservative religion.  Their rich friends wouldn't understand if they became evangelicals.

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: John Halpin
    To: John Podesta <john.podesta@gmail.com>; Jennifer Palmieri
    Sent: Mon Apr 11 18:55:59 2011
    Subject: Conservative Catholicism

    Ken Auletta's latest piece on Murdoch in the New Yorker starts off with the aside that both Murdoch and Robert Thompson, managing editor of the WSJ, are raising their kids Catholic.  Friggin' Murdoch baptized his kids in Jordan where John the Baptist baptized Jesus.

    Many of the most powerful elements of the conservative movement are all Catholic (many converts) from the SC and think tanks to the media and social groups.

    It's an amazing bastardization of the faith.  They must be attracted to the systematic thought and severely backwards gender relations and must be totally unaware of Christian democracy.
    source: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/4364
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    WikiLeaks email subject: "Re: Conservative Catholicism"
    « Reply #1 on: October 12, 2016, 12:52:12 AM »
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  • The next ‘deplorables’? Clinton campaign rips ‘backwards’ Catholic beliefs in leaked e-mails

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/the-next-deplorables-clinton-campaign-rips-backwards-catholic-beliefs-in-le?utm_content=bufferd6228&utm_medium=social&utm_source=+lifesitenews%2Bfacebook&utm_campaign=buffer

    There was another interesting quote at the end of this:

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    An April 2015 email from Podesta to Palmieri on campaign rhetoric portraying Clinton as caring about American citizens has Podesta writing, “I know she has begun to hate everyday Americans, but I think we should use it once the first time she says I'm running for president because you and everyday Americans need a champion.”
    "If I could only make the faithful sing the Kyrie, the Gloria, the Credo, the Sanctus and the Agnus Dei ... that would be to me the finest triumph sacred music could have, for it is in really taking part in the liturgy that the faithful will preserve their devotion. I would take the Tantum ...


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    WikiLeaks email subject: "Re: Conservative Catholicism"
    « Reply #2 on: October 12, 2016, 12:54:25 PM »
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    Re: opening for a Catholic Spring? just musing . . .

                   From:john.podesta@gmail.com
                   To: sandynewman@gmail.com
                   Date: 2012-02-11 11:45
                   Subject: Re: opening for a Catholic Spring? just musing . . .

    We created Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good to organize for a
    moment like this. But I think it lacks the leadership to do so now.
    Likewise Catholics United. Like most Spring movements, I think this
    one will have to be bottom up. I'll discuss with Tara.  Kathleen
    Kennedy Townsend is the other person to consult.

    On 2/10/12, Sandy Newman <sandynewman@gmail.com> wrote:
    > Hi, John,
    >
    > This whole controversy with the bishops opposing contraceptive coverage even
    > though 98% of Catholic women (and their conjugal partners) have used
    > contraception has me thinking . . .  There needs to be a Catholic Spring, in
    > which Catholics themselves demand the end of a middle ages dictatorship and
    > the beginning of a little democracy and respect for gender equality in the
    > Catholic church. Is contraceptive coverage an issue around which that could
    > happen.  The Bishops will undoubtedly continue the fight.  Does the Catholic
    > Hospital Association support of the Administration's new policy, together
    > with "the 98%"  create an opportunity?
    >
    > Of course, this idea may just reveal my total lack of understanding of the
    > Catholic church, the economic power it can bring to bear against nuns and
    > priests who count on it for their maintenance, etc. Even if the idea isn't
    > crazy,  I don't qualify to be involved and I have not thought at all about
    > how one would "plant the seeds of the revolution," or who would plant them.
    > Just wondering . . .
    >
    > Hoping you're well, and getting to focus your time in the ways you want.
    >
    > Sandy
    >
    > Sandy Newman, President
    > Voices for Progress
    > 202.669.8754
    > voicesforprogress.org
    >
    >
    >
    >
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    WikiLeaks email subject: "Re: Conservative Catholicism"
    « Reply #3 on: October 12, 2016, 02:30:01 PM »
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  • Whenever I think about the growing # of people who mock catholicism, and who say that "the old ways are gone" I remember this prophecy from St. Francis Of Paola:


    f 46.9 "The sixth period of the Church will begin with the
    powerful Monarch and the Holy Pontiff, as mentioned previ-
    ously, and it will last until the revelation of Antichrist. In this
    period, God will console His Holy Church for the affliction
    and great tribulation which she has endured during the fifth
    period. All nations will become Catholic. Vocations will be
    abundant as never before, and all men will seek only the
    Kingdom of God and His justice. Men will live in peace, and
    this will be granted because people will make their peace with
    God. They will live under the protection of the Great Mon-
    arch and his successors.

    |f 46. 10 "During the fifth period, we saw only calamities and
    devastation; oppression of Catholics by tyrants and heretics;
    executions of Kings, and conspiracies to set up republics.
    But, by the Hand of God Almighty, there occurs so wondrous
    a change during the sixth period that no one can humanly
    visualize it.

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    WikiLeaks email subject: "Re: Conservative Catholicism"
    « Reply #4 on: October 13, 2016, 02:33:18 PM »
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  • This might be the first time the word "anti-Catholic" has been spoken on mainstream TV:
    [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/_Lh2moFhXEg[/youtube]
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