Author Topic: Why not Senator Rubio? (Read 7291 times)

Nishant · « **on:** October 03, 2015, 02:59:05 AM »

I'm surprised some people, even Catholics, appear to think Trump'd be a good president. On the other hand some, maybe most, traditional Catholics would say supporting or voting for anyone running is a waste of time.

So, let's hear it, what are the objections to Senator Rubio winning the nomination? He seems to be a Catholic, conservative senator and is pro-life, faith and family. Sure, we'd all prefer a traditional, Catholic, monarch ruling in the Name of Christ and the Holy Trinity, but since that is not likely any time soon, what are the thoughts of posters here on which candidate, if any, Catholics can support?

TKGS · « **Reply #1 on:** October 03, 2015, 06:32:28 AM »

Can you identify one thing Rubio would do to actually advance the pro-life agenda?

I don't believe any politician who says he's pro-life. All Republicans claim to be pro-life while they do absolutely nothing.

Frankly, I don't see any real difference in the pro-life area among any of the candidates. Trump is certainly not the ideal candidate. The only thing I think he may be serious about that Rubio isn't is his statements about stemming the tide of illegal immigration.

OHCA · « **Reply #2 on:** October 03, 2015, 08:52:36 AM »

Rubio is too much in line with the NWO Republican establishment (McConnell, L. Graham, McCain, etc.) for my taste. Graham would probably be the establishment's 2nd choice after Bush, but Graham is utterly unelectable. So Rubio is their next go-to guy.

JezusDeKoning · « **Reply #3 on:** October 03, 2015, 09:37:41 AM »

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Rubio is too much in line with the NWO Republican establishment (McConnell, L. Graham, McCain, etc.) for my taste. Graham would probably be the establishment's 2nd choice after Bush, but Graham is utterly unelectable. So Rubio is their next go-to guy.

Lindsey Graham is a terrorist. He's in that same diabolical group that Bush and Cheney are in where the only answer to anything is war, war, war.

OHCA · « **Reply #4 on:** October 03, 2015, 10:21:47 AM »

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Rubio is too much in line with the NWO Republican establishment (McConnell, L. Graham, McCain, etc.) for my taste. Graham would probably be the establishment's 2nd choice after Bush, but Graham is utterly unelectable. So Rubio is their next go-to guy.

Lindsey Graham is a terrorist. He's in that same diabolical group that Bush and Cheney are in where the only answer to anything is war, war, war.

Yes--along with several more. Rubio seems to cozy with that crowd for my comfort. Same crowd that's pushing toward NWO a/k/a Jєω World Order--spying on citizens, NSA, NDAA, getting the FEMA camps ready.

Croix de Fer · « **Reply #5 on:** October 03, 2015, 12:05:50 PM »

Rubio is a lackey for the ѕуηαgσgυє. He has bloodlust for Iran, and will strike at the moment "Israel" commands it of him.

And, no, he's NOT Catholic. He's a novus ordoite.

Every single candidate up there is an establishment shill for the perfidious Jєωs - both the Federal Reserve and "Israel".

Nishant · « **Reply #6 on:** October 04, 2015, 09:56:52 AM »

So, what's the alternative, then? Millions of American Catholics (and no, those in good faith trapped in the Novus Ordo are not non-Catholic by default) are not supposed to vote for anyone? Two more terms of Hillary Clinton, which will be Obama all over again? You can as well give up any hope, then, of ever criminalizing Planned Parenthood. Rubio is far from perfect, but I disagree with the "perfect traditional Catholic or nobody" approach, which will only ensure America goes farther and farther down the path of sin, immorality, faithlessness and godlessness and away from God our Father and Christ our King.

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Can you identify one thing Rubio would do to actually advance the pro-life agenda?

Easy, he would support the bill banning abortion after twently weeks, as he has in the past, which passed the House and nearly passed the Senate, in spite of Obama's veto threat. See [ http://www.lifenews.com/2015/05/13/house-passes-pro-life-bill-banning-late-term-abortions-after-20-weeks/ and http://www.lifenews.com/2015/09/22/democrats-defeat-pro-life-senate-bill-banning-late-term-abortions-after-20-weeks/] He has also said life begins at conception and, contrary to what was reported in the press, that he would not support exceptions for rape or incest.

Reading this article a while ago was what left me open to Rubio.

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Rubio answered a questionnaire from the National Right to Life Committee by declaring his opposition to abortion, including in the cases of rape and incest (he does believe in an exception for the life of the mother).He’s always received a 100 percent rating from that group and a zero percent rating on Planned Parenthood Action Fund’s congressional scorecard.

“He has an outstanding pro-life record,” said Douglas Johnson, legislative director at National Right to Life. “I can’t think of a single thing where his record is less than outstanding on issues that concern our organization.” ... In 2012, as the keynote speaker at the anti-abortion rights Susan B. Anthony List’s annual gala, Rubio said: “The right to life is a fundamental one that trumps virtually any other right that I can imagine.”

“He asked us to remind him of that speech if he ever faltered,” Marjorie Dannenfelser, the group’s president, said. “No reminder has been necessary. He continues to boldly speak out in defense of life, which he has called a definitional issue.”

PG · « **Reply #7 on:** October 04, 2015, 02:17:49 PM »

I do not plan or desire to vote. But, I think we are in big trouble if any republican is elected other than Paul or Trump.

rum · « **Reply #8 on:** October 04, 2015, 06:18:14 PM »

Rubio's Jєωιѕн moneyman, Norman Braman. I wonder about Rubio's pedigree.

Marco Rubio and Norman Braman at a bipartisan rally for Israel in 2012. Positions on Israel helped bring them together.

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As Mr. Rubio has ascended in the ranks of Republican politics, Mr. Braman has emerged as a remarkable and unique patron. He has bankrolled Mr. Rubio’s campaigns. He has financed Mr. Rubio’s legislative agenda. And, at the same time, he has subsidized Mr. Rubio’s personal finances, as the rising politician and his wife grappled with heavy debt and big swings in their income.

Now, with Mr. Rubio vaulting ahead of much of the Republican presidential field, Mr. Braman is poised to play an even larger part and become Mr. Rubio’s single biggest campaign donor, with an expected outlay of approximately $10 million for the senator’s pursuit of the White House.

--http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/10/us/billionaire-lifts-marco-rubio-politically-and-personally.html

PG · « **Reply #9 on:** October 04, 2015, 08:49:55 PM »

Nishant - Something very revealing occurred during the 2nd republican debate. It revealed itself in the form of a debate question. And, it was the very 1st question asked. The question was asked to fiorina, carson, and maybe another(i want to say paul). And, the question was to all of these candidates, "do you feel confident with Trump having authority over and access to the nuclear codes?". Their unanimous answer was, "the american people will decide", with some even going as far as saying that "the american will make the correct decision".

If you do not understand, I will explain. We are supposed to forget about the fact that this president we "elect" can drop nuclear bombs on other ignorant human beings that are of no direct threat to us without our direct explicit approval(if that even would legitimize the act). And, this is only one example. However, we are supposed to forget and/or not concern ourselves. It is supposed to be of little importance. But, it is not, and political experts know this. And, that is why questions like this still appear, and this reality still manifests itself. This is how politicians get away with murder, and sleep at night. This is the devils science. We foot the bill.

If you have ears to hear, you will understand the importance of that question/answer, and what was actually being exposed.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #10 on:** October 06, 2015, 09:21:39 AM »

Rubio also regularly attends Baptist services, so he's dubious at best as a "Catholic".

Ladislaus · « **Reply #11 on:** October 06, 2015, 09:23:29 AM »

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So, what's the alternative, then?

Not voting for any of them. If I vote for Rubio and he starts bombing innocent civilians at the behest of his certain-ethnic handlers, then I will have blood on my hands as well by having cast my vote. "Lesser evil" voting is decidedly not Catholic.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #12 on:** October 06, 2015, 09:25:13 AM »

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Millions of American Catholics (and no, those in good faith trapped in the Novus Ordo are not non-Catholic by default) are not supposed to vote for anyone?

Absolutely correct. Since when has "ends justifies the means" entered into Catholic moral reasoning?

rum · « **Reply #13 on:** October 06, 2015, 11:17:47 AM »

C-Span cut to Rubio when Francis was waxing poetic about immigrants. He tried his best to look misty-eyed but didn't pull it off. He looks like he's trying to get a gnat out of his eye.

Loys · « **Reply #14 on:** October 22, 2015, 09:44:49 AM »

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So, what's the alternative, then?

Not voting for any of them. If I vote for Rubio and he starts bombing innocent civilians at the behest of his certain-ethnic handlers, then I will have blood on my hands as well by having cast my vote. "Lesser evil" voting is decidedly not Catholic.

Great point Ladislaus.

I am not sure if this has been picked up on the board yet. It is from Wikipedia:

"When he was 8 years old and living in Las Vegas, Nevada, Rubio joined the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormon), but he returned to Catholicism after receiving his first communion at 13 years old.[122] Rubio attends Christ Fellowship, a Southern Baptist Church[123] in West Kendall, Florida,[124] as well as Catholic services."

Rubio is a Zionist heretic who can't wait to militarily confront Russia for it's sensible Middle East actions in Syria, with acts of war like no fly zones, which could start World War 3.