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Traditional Catholic Faith => Politics and World Leaders => Topic started by: Matthew on October 19, 2016, 03:45:28 PM
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The graphic says it all --
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The only criticism I have of this graphic: the photos of both candidates seem to be from about 1990. That was 26 years ago.
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It's sad to note that some so-called Catholics are more worried about getting amnesty for illegals than ending the slaughter of the unborn. They find hope in candidates like dimwitted Gary Johnson...
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Reminded me of this meme:
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After hearing Hitlery (or is it, Hellary?) defend partial birth abortion tonight, any Catholic who sits out this election thinking they are on some sort of "moral high ground" is undoubtedly committing the sin of remote material cooperation in abortion.
You must vote for Trump.
It's as simple as that.
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Trump and ONLY Trump is our Only chance.
ANYONE who votes for Killary or anyone else or does not vote at all is, in my view, aiding and abetting EVIL. PERIOD.
And yes, I feel as strongly about this as I sound in type.
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My position has changed. I just saw a post from a long time ago where I said I wouldn't vote because I did not like either candidate. Now, I plan on voting for Trump.
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I don't think Trump will win because even if people vote for him, I believe Hillary will steal the election. And then we are all off to the FEMA camps exept for those like ascent who say they will fight the feds to the death when they come to their door.
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I wonder how they will treat us in the FEMA camps. Will they make us work hard and eat little food but otherwise treat us well so we are useful slaves? Or will they torture us and abuse us physically, mentally, and sɛҳuąƖly? Or will they just kill us all?
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It is best Matto not to think of what they will do with us in the FEMA campa. It is better to spend your time in prayer to gain the grace to die without denyng Our Lord. It will be more horrible than we can imagine.
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It is best Matto not to think of what they will do with us in the FEMA campa. It is better to spend your time in prayer to gain the grace to die without denyng Our Lord. It will be more horrible than we can imagine.
I don't worry about it much or think about it that much even though I believe it is likely to happen. All I really care about is that I save my soul and that others save their souls also. I wouldn't really care if I lost my freedom and was made a slave as long as I had the strength to not give up the faith. I don't have any children to worry about like others here. I have been praying a lot more recently and I have hope that God will take care of me even in the FEMA camp.
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Do not believe we lose with the election. Pray with fervor and those
in Sanctifying Grace with prayer of the Holy Rosary will be blessed true.
We have not lost do not yield to the deception of the demons and we
with Blessed Mother shall prevail.
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It is sad that the Big Money Liberal Catholics are voting for Hillary.
All of them already separated from the Church a long time ago because
of their support of abortion, partial birth abortion and the spread of
birth control among the population. Their support of other anti-Catholic
and their immoral lives.
They are Catholic in the name only. They are worse than Pagans.
Trump Booed at the Al Smith annual dinner:
http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/roast-jokes-boos-Hillary-Clinton/2016/10/20/id/754598/?AID=7236
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It is sad that the Big Money Liberal Catholics are voting for Hillary. They are Catholic in the name only. They are worse than Pagans.
Amazingly, (N.Y.C.) Novus Ordo neoCardinal Tim Dolan actually stood up on his own 2 legs, and according to an oddly far-out-of-state news report "said that Hillary Clinton should disavow negative comments made by campaign staffers that were disclosed in emails hacked by WikiLeaks. 'They are extraordinarily patronizing and insulting to Catholics' [....]".
"If it had been said about the Jєωιѕн community, the Islamic community, within 10 minutes there would have been an apology and a complete distancing from those remarks, which hasn't happened yet", Dolan told an unidentified ABC affiliate.
Uh, huh. An apology delivered after being demanded, no doubt, even if truthful words had been said about those nonChristian religions by "Bishop of Rome" Francis. And if Dolan gets a token apology, he'll vote for Hillary, and preach that other "Catholics" do likewise, despite her advocacy of unlimited abortions, because, Trump is--ummm--what, "mean-spirited toward 'migrants' seeking a better life" or somesuch? Or will he vote for Hillary regardless?
The Dolan story appeared earlier in the day on which Dolan would host the Al Smith - Dinner later that day, which benefits "Catholic" Charities. Especially being in N.Y.C., whatever "Catholics" attend are no more traditional than indultarians or neocons, altho' the majority of "Catholics" there are almost certainly CINO (e.g.: Joseph Biden). Perhaps it would be fair to write that they are N.Y. Liberals first, and Catholics no higher than second.
That "Catholic Charities", it should be noted, is the one [$] that accepts hefty bags of money from the Obama Administration for settlement of Muslim "refugees" in the U.S.A.  For many more years, C.C. has been using its funds to provide "aid and comfort" to immigrants invading the U.S.A. across our border with Mexico. What about aid to fellow Christians whose Middle-East populations continue to be devastated by overt Islamic persecution? Fascinating question, isn't it?
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Note *: "NYC's Cardinal Dolan: Hillary Should Disavow Negative Remarks on Catholics". By Todd Beamon, Thursday, 20 Oct 2016 06:31 PM. <http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/cardinal-timothy-dolan-hillary-clinton-disavow/2016/10/20/id/754581/ (http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/cardinal-timothy-dolan-hillary-clinton-disavow/2016/10/20/id/754581/)>.
Note +: Al Smith was 4-time gov. of N.Y., and in 1928, the first Catholic to run as a major-party candidate for president of the U.S.A.  He ran as a "progressive" Democrat, and lost to Republican Herbert Hoover. The Wall-Street crash, beginning the Great Depression, occurred the following year (Oct. 1929).
Note #: Personal opinions accuмulated from afar, based on an uncitable combination of sources & biases, without the benefit of 1st-hand 'inside' info.
Note $: I'll try to find & post at least 1 source each for my claims about how "Catholic Charities" is focused on supporting legal & illegal immigrants in the U.S.A., even specializing in nonChristians, instead of our native needy Christian "children", altho' there's probably a much more appropriate topic for it somewhere else in CathInfo.
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Voting 3rd party is NOT a mortal sin. How stupid is such logic. Our requirement as a catholic is to vote for a moral and good candidate. Hillary is not one, and Trump is a 'maybe'. I refuse to vote for the 'lesser of two evils'.
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Voting 3rd party is NOT a mortal sin. How stupid is such logic. Our requirement as a catholic is to vote for a moral and good candidate. Hillary is not one, and Trump is a 'maybe'. I refuse to vote for the 'lesser of two evils'.
There are 3rd party candidates who are both to the right of Trump and not a bag of dung.
Evan McMullin, who is LEADING in Utah - above Clinton, Trump and Johnson (https://www.evanmcmullin.com/about)
Darrell Castle, the leader of the Constitution Party. Haven't seen any polls on him yet. (http://castle2016.com/platform/)
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Voting 3rd party is NOT a mortal sin. How stupid is such logic. Our requirement as a catholic is to vote for a moral and good candidate. Hillary is not one, and Trump is a 'maybe'. I refuse to vote for the 'lesser of two evils'.
There are 3rd party candidates who are both to the right of Trump and not a bag of dung.
Evan McMullin, who is LEADING in Utah - above Clinton, Trump and Johnson (https://www.evanmcmullin.com/about)
Darrell Castle, the leader of the Constitution Party. Haven't seen any polls on him yet. (http://castle2016.com/platform/)
Whatever for would anybody vote 3rd party at this point? Evidently voting "Third Party" is contributing to Hillary's victory and everything she stands for.
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If everyone who hated Hillary (or, for historical purposes, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush Sr), voted 3rd party, instead of settling for a third-rate, wishy-washy 'conservative', our country would be in better shape. Voting for the 'lessor of two evils' still gets you bad results, just takes longer.
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If everyone who hated Hillary (or, for historical purposes, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush Sr), voted 3rd party, instead of settling for a third-rate, wishy-washy 'conservative', our country would be in better shape. Voting for the 'lessor of two evils' still gets you bad results, just takes longer.
OK. That may sound good; but in practical matters, most likely this just won't happen, so would it not be better taking a more realistic approach and as Catholics, do whatever it is in our immediate power so Hillary ( a most definite, proven, enemy of the Faith) does not win? That means, voting Trump, I think, because if we do not vote or vote third party, those votes then would be beneficial to Hillary, and therefore lost to our cause.
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Reminded me of this meme:
I wouldn't say that voting third party is a mortal sin. That's going too far.
It might be naive, starry-eyed, foolish idealism, but it's not mortally sinful.
It's objectively foolish because in 2016, in America, we have a two party system. If Ross Perot (who got 19% of the popular vote) couldn't get elected, there is no hope for Stein, Johnson, or anyone else. It's just how the system works. We have to accept that reality.
Incidentally, that 3-way election in 1992 was favorable to the democrats. In that case, Bill Clinton. Clinton got 43%, George Bush got 38%, and Ross Perot got 19%. Who do you suppose those Perotistas would have chosen in a two-way contest between Clinton and Bush?
It is ALMOST like voting for Hillary to vote for a third party. But on the other hand, in such a rigged election it is certainly permissible (morally) to not vote, or to vote for your ideals. Nevertheless, such a case of action, although moral, is still FOOLISH because in the practical realm it WILL result in a Hillary Clinton victory.
And she will be stacking the Supreme Court over the next 4 years with rabid pro-abortion judges who will "legislate from the bench" and try to drag our culture down even further than it already is.
It IS mortally sinful to directly vote FOR Hillary, however. She is too pro-abortion to support her, even if she had some other good quality you liked (for example, the fact that she has a uterus -- that seems to seal the deal for many voters).
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One reason I am voting for Trump is because the Democratic Party can be
best called the Bolsheviks whom believe that violence is permissible when
their agendas are threaten.
Democratic Party operatives caught staging violence at Trump Rallies in undercover sting:
https://youtu.be/t4Oe_RCSOAw
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If people voted principles in the primary, then we MIGHT have a different candidate than Trump to vote for now. But, people get too caught up in 'who can be ___' and compromise on their values early, and then, once the media bias and the political bias kicks in, any real americans lose in the primary and we're stuck with a neo-con vs a marxist in the general election. Mostly, the system is rigged, because the media is totally marxists and the party's are controlled, so i don't fault people for believing they have a choice, except for in the primaries. As it is now, we're choosing between the 'lessor of two evils'. Everyone thought Bush was a 'compassionate conservative' and he did more to abuse the Bill of Rights and further the police state than Lincoln did during the cινιℓ ωαr. Trump isn't any better than Bush. In the end, we get what we deserve.
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p.s. Practically speaking, if one's state was highly contested, I see the point that a 3rd party vote is indirectly favorable to Hillary. In my case, my state is already decided, so i'll probably vote 3rd party, because I can. Just wanted to agree with the previous arguments made.
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If people voted principles in the primary, then we MIGHT have a different candidate than Trump to vote for now. But, people get too caught up in 'who can be ___' and compromise on their values early, and then, once the media bias and the political bias kicks in, any real americans lose in the primary and we're stuck with a neo-con vs a marxist in the general election. Mostly, the system is rigged, because the media is totally marxists and the party's are controlled, so i don't fault people for believing they have a choice, except for in the primaries. As it is now, we're choosing between the 'lessor of two evils'. Everyone thought Bush was a 'compassionate conservative' and he did more to abuse the Bill of Rights and further the police state than Lincoln did during the cινιℓ ωαr. Trump isn't any better than Bush. In the end, we get what we deserve.
In hindsight, the only primary candidate that I may have liked better than Trump was Rand Paul. I previously thought Cruz would have been preferable. But now that he has shown his true colors, I wouldn't even vote for him for dog-catcher.
"[Geo. W. Bush] did more to abuse the Bill of Rights and further the police state than Lincoln did during the cινιℓ ωαr."
True! I wish I could kick my own ass for having voted for the bastard!
But I do think Trump is better than the NWO royal family--the Bushes.
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Avery revealing video: NBC-Crooked Hillary's Massive Meltdown at the
Commander-in-Chief forum.
Watch for her statement that "We will all be sent to the gallows if Trump is
elected."
https://youtu.be/_NfFAaPZqs8
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Donald Trump Action Figure Parody:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hLEUFfbntQQ
Funny!
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That video was hilarious. I'm still laughing.
They got the DJT's hair wrong and Killary's figure was waaayyyy too thin but other than that - :laugh2:
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That video was hilarious. I'm still laughing.
They got the DJT's hair wrong and Killary's figure was waaayyyy too thin but other than that - :laugh2:
I could not embed it before because I was using my phone, but here it is:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/hLEUFfbntQQ[/youtube]
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Massive Texas Voting Machine Fraud
It is not only Texas, but all states are experiencing massive voting fraud.
The globalists have to win this election for Hillary. They cannot lose what
they have work for generations. A secret shadow government within the
visible government that are only accountable to the likes of Soros.
https://youtu.be/Pvpnh6We8Z0
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“Trump Wins By Landslide- Deep Data Mining- Cliff High”
By Greg Hunter’s USAWatchdog.com
:Internet data mining expert Cliff High says the “naked data” on the Internet shows Trump winning the 2016 Presidential election by a “landslide.”
High explains, “You can do a search on YouTube that brings back a list of primary speeches by both candidates. I am not talking about Fred Smith’s copy of a video he made of Trump. I am talking about a speech taken officially of Trump, and they released it officially.
If you take just those, you can see you’ve got Hillary Clinton on one side with 2,165 views, and Trump on the other side with 775,653 views. So, that is not anecdotal. This is a very crude level of statistical analysis, but it is nonetheless statistical analysis, and it is very pointed because it is extremely self-selecting.
There is nobody watching you when you choose to watch something on YouTube. So, there is no peer pressure or external person polling you. It’s what I call a very naked data set because there is no pressure on an emotional level on people.”
How big is Trump winning by?
High says, “Basically, when you go through all the analysis and all the other video archives, you come up with a 25 to 1 ratio (in favor of Trump).
High says that Trump’s winning vote total will be orders of magnitude greater than Clinton’s. High uses a program he invented that he says uses the “art of predictive linguistics” to forecast future events. One of the phrases that High comes up with in his own linguistic data mining program is “Hillary is missing.” High’s data also comes up with the phrase “It doesn’t matter.”
High explains, “This is all tied up with one other phrase and that is ‘It doesn’t matter.’ That is a very interesting phrase to come up in our data set because usually they’re not at a hard level making a conclusion. That’s what ‘It does not matter’ is. It’s a conclusion. It’s a conclusion about a set of circuмstances or facts. We rarely get straight out conclusions.
It is my interpretation that the Deep State may be so fixated on their candidate winning that it won’t matter how the election actually comes out. There is another layer on top of that that is seen in our recent data, the focus is economic, fiscal or financial pointedness, it may be saying the election part does not matter. If we take that interpretation, we are talking about the dollar and everything else in the economic system.”
High contends the mainstream media polls are “100% manufactured.” High says, “Always look at the source. All these polls are part of the six propaganda outlets the government uses. So, obviously, it’s propaganda, and they are manufacturing it. It’s made for a specific agenda. It’s propaganda. They need to have it in everybody’s mind conceptually.
Basically, they are doing mind framing or collective brainwashing, if you want to think about it that way. What they want is everyone to understand there is very little difference between the candidates, that it’s a neck and neck race. They will do anything and are doing everything to engineer that perception.”
High’s data also predicts, “The economy in our data set takes a terrible hit on the 9th of November. That is being forecast straight out. The kind of hit it’s going to take is going to affect FOREX all the way over to retail sales. We have a huge amount of things happening leading up to the larger problems we face next March in the economic system.”
So, are we going to take a cliff dive economically speaking? High says, “It’s more like we are in a depression now and the illusion that everybody has been manufacturing and they just give up the Potemkin Village on the 9th of November. If the Deep State is confused how things are going to occur going forward, in other words, they know their candidate lost, but they are still going to potentially try to engineer things.
That level of confusion on the Deep State’s part is what is going to draw in the collapse component on the other. That will happen instantly on the 9th because the Deep State is so involved in our predatory cronyism financial structure.”
Inflation is coming, and that will be very positive for precisions metals. High contends, “Gold and silver are going to rise relative to the falling currencies. Gold and silver in actual purchasing power will also rise. They won’t be saying an ounce of gold bought a good suit 100 years ago and an ounce of gold will buy a good suit now. That’s going to change, and it’s also going to change radically with silver.
Also, in our data sets between 2019 and 2024, silver becomes the metal to have.
You need to have silver. The reason being the innovations that will be occurring over those next five years. Silver will become much more in demand than we can imagine now.”
High also talks about energy, war and the fate of the mainstream media in this in-depth interview. Join Greg Hunter as he goes One-on-One with Cliff High, founder of HalfPastHuman.com. (There is much, much more in the video interview.)”
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From CNBC
Trump will will the Election:
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/28/donald-trump-will-win-the-election-and-is-more-popular-than-obama-in-2008-ai-system-finds.html
Trump will win the election and is more popular than Obama in 2008, AI system finds
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Donald Trump, 2016 Republican presidential nominee Trump will win the election, according to AI system
Friday, 28 Oct 2016 | 11:32 AM ET | 01:06
An artificial intelligence system that correctly predicted the last three U.S. presidential elections puts Republican nominee Donald Trump ahead of Democrat rival Hillary Clinton in the race for the White House.
MogIA was developed by Sanjiv Rai, founder of Indian start-up Genic.ai. It takes in 20 million data points from public platforms including Google, Facebook, Twitter and YouTube in the U.S. and then analyzes the information to create predictions.
The AI system was created in 2004, so it has been getting smarter all the time. It had already correctly predicted the results of the Democratic and Republican Primaries.
Data such as engagement with tweets or Facebook Live videos have been taken into account. The result is that Trump has overtaken the engagement numbers of Barack Obama's peak in 2008 — the year he was elected president — by 25 percent.
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Donald Trump
Rai said that his AI system shows that the candidate in each election who had leading engagement data ended up winning the election.
"If Trump loses, it will defy the data trend for the first time in the last 12 years since Internet engagement began in full earnest," Rai wrote in a report sent to CNBC.
Currently most national polls put Clinton and the Democrats ahead by a strong margin. Rai said his data shows that Clinton should not get complacent.
But the entrepreneur admitted that there were limitations to the data in that sentiment around social media posts is difficult for the system to analyze. Just because somebody engages with a Trump tweet, it doesn't mean that they support him. Also there are currently more people on social media than there were in the three previous presidential elections.
"If you look at the primaries, in the primaries, there were immense amounts of negative conversations that happen with regards to Trump. However, when these conversations started picking up pace, in the final days, it meant a huge game opening for Trump and he won the primaries with a good margin," Rai told CNBC in a phone interview.
Using social media to predict outcomes of elections has become increasingly popular because of the amount of data available publicly. In September, Nick Beauchamp, an assistant professor of political science at Northeastern University, published a paper about his experiment applying AI to more than 100 million tweets in the 2012 election. He found that this closely mirrored the results seen in state-level polling.
"These results provide not just a tool for generating surveylike data, but also a method for investigating how what people say and think reflects, and perhaps even affects, their vote intentions," Beauchamp said.
Rai said his system would be improved by more granular data. He said that If Google was to give him access to the unique internet addresses assigned to each digital device, he could then collect data on exactly what people were thinking.
For example, Rai said if someone was searching for a YouTube video on how to vote, then looked for a video on how to vote for Trump, this could give the AI a good idea of the voter's intention. He added that there would be no privacy concerns as these internet addresses would be anonymized.
"Granularity of data will determine progressively lesser bias despite the weightage of negative or positive conversations," Rai wrote in his report, explaining how to improve the system.
MogIA is based on Mowgli, the child from Rudyard Kipling's novel "The Jungle Book." Rai said this is because his AI model learns from the environment.
"While most algorithms suffer from programmers/developer's biases, MoglA aims at learning from her environment, developing her own rules at the policy layer and develop expert systems without discarding any data," Rai said.
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Here's another reason to vote for Trump:
(https://i.sli.mg/Q25vH0.jpg)
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Good news today! St.Jude, pray for us.
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[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/lxXIbABA4I0[/youtube]
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From CNBC
Trump will will the Election:
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/28/donald-trump-will-win-the-election-and-is-more-popular-than-obama-in-2008-ai-system-finds.html
Trump will win the election and is more popular than Obama in 2008, AI system finds
An artificial intelligence system that correctly predicted the last three U.S. presidential elections puts Republican nominee Donald Trump ahead of Democrat rival Hillary Clinton in the race for the White House.
MogIA was developed by Sanjiv Rai, founder of Indian start-up Genic.ai. It takes in 20 million data points from public platforms including Google, Facebook, Twitter and YouTube in the U.S. and then analyzes the information to create predictions.
The AI system was created in 2004, so it has been getting smarter all the time. It had already correctly predicted the results of the Democratic and Republican Primaries.
This is one of those "canaries in the coalmine" which shows evidence of bias and tampering in those official polls. It's one of the proofs that something doesn't add up.
If Hillary was really "ahead" of Trump as so many polls suggest, she should have more tweets, likes, followers, and attendees at her live rallies. But she doesn't.
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[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/lxXIbABA4I0[/youtube]
EVERYONE NEEDS TO WATCH THIS!
It's only 5 minutes -- I promise you'll find it interesting. I sure did.
It doesn't matter what you think of the election or the 2-party system. Even if you think the whole thing is a farce, it does suggest they're up to something.
Are they planning to cheat in the elections, giving it to Hillary, with the idea of angering on purpose 3/4 or more of the American people, trying to get them to riot so they can declare Martial Law and assume dictatorial control over us?