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Offline josefamenendez

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Re: Why Catholics Must Reject the 'Lesser of Two Evils'
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2024, 10:09:38 PM »
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  • Trump is not advocating changing any laws to allow abortion where it is not already permitted.  
    Oh yes he is-

    [color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.95)]Donald Trump Says States Will Undo Abortion Laws That Are ‘Too Tough’[/color]

    https://time.com/7093731/donald-trump-abortion-state-measures/


    PS: Cera -“Time” said this , not me

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    Re: Why Catholics Must Reject the 'Lesser of Two Evils'
    « Reply #16 on: October 18, 2024, 10:13:16 PM »
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  • :facepalm: But Trump is at the Federal level…he has nothing to do with states laws.  

    You have no idea how our govt operates.  :facepalm:


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    Re: Why Catholics Must Reject the 'Lesser of Two Evils'
    « Reply #17 on: October 18, 2024, 10:50:32 PM »
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  • he has nothing to do with states laws.
    Except that federal laws trump state laws: Supremacy Clause of U.S. Constitution (art. 6)
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    Re: Why Catholics Must Reject the 'Lesser of Two Evils'
    « Reply #18 on: October 19, 2024, 05:56:37 AM »
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  • I am so confused by those who adamantly say do not vote.

    Lets say people listen to you.  No Catholic votes because it is cooperating with evil.  What do you think that future would look like? 

    Whatever small voice the Catholic had in society would then be null and void.

    And if we apply this thought process (you can't do anything that cooperated with an evil) to living in this world, then wouldn't we have to make everything ourselves and essentially end up dead because we don't have any access to resources because it is all corrupted by the evil of those who run the businesses and work in the hospitals and run the government.  I know that this point has been brought up by others.
    We don’t have much resources noe because people who run businesses, work in hospitals and run the global governments are corrupt and evil.  Both parties are guilty of treason.  The church is controlled by the government and they have taken the silver to betray Jesus Christ.  Hanging an image of Bergolio in any chapel is evil. 

    I voted enough of the lesser of the evil.  I have seen how both parties operate locally and in DC.  They have intentionally and gradually corrupted society to go along with demonic activities with their lesser of the two evils. Isaiah 5:20 is here. You can’t vote your way to God.  These people need to repent for their sins.  You can’t make changes to society without God. 

    May God bless you and keep you

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    Re: Why Catholics Must Reject the 'Lesser of Two Evils'
    « Reply #19 on: October 19, 2024, 06:24:58 AM »
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  • "  OH, If no one votes for Trump,  they will have pre selected him for prez anyway,  same with whore hαɾɾιs!"

    Lol! Talk about an unproveable defense of your argument and a worldview of total defeatism.


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    Re: Why Catholics Must Reject the 'Lesser of Two Evils'
    « Reply #20 on: October 19, 2024, 06:45:01 AM »
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  • Here's Trump the other day cheering on the genocidal monster Netanyahu. He's upset that
    Biden is holding back the slaughter!
    You see how he is setting up the Hegelian dialectic, along with Fox News. 
    The Biden/hαɾɾιs administration, which is infested with joos and fully onboard with
    the genocide is in some vague way not doing enough to expand the war into Iran.
    It's like how Trump accused hαɾɾιs of being antisemitic, despite being married to the
    very jew who heads the White House task force on antisemitism!
    Is it possible to be more slavish to the moneylenders? 
    A vote for Trump is YOUR consent for this carnage, your consent to be ruled by Israel.
    Precisely what the devil wants. 
    "Oh but muh 401k!" "Muh economy!" shrieks the comfortable trad Catholic.

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    Re: Why Catholics Must Reject the 'Lesser of Two Evils'
    « Reply #21 on: October 19, 2024, 08:55:38 AM »
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  • :facepalm: But Trump is at the Federal level…he has nothing to do with states laws. 

    You have no idea how our govt operates.  :facepalm:
    Well then Trump doesn't know how the Federal government operates because HE SAID IT.
    Facepalm him, silly.:facepalm:

    I'm sure he will be planning federal legislation in Congress to supercede the states.There are ways to do this. Didn't the partial birth abortion ban effect the entire country even under Roe?

    1201, enacted November 5, 2003, 18 U.S.C. § 1531, PBA Ban) is a United States law prohibiting a form of late termination of pregnancy called "partial-birth abortion", referred to in medical literature as intact dilation and extraction.

    Federal law supercedes state laws under the Constitution

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    Re: Why Catholics Must Reject the 'Lesser of Two Evils'
    « Reply #22 on: October 19, 2024, 09:16:07 AM »
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    Re: Why Catholics Must Reject the 'Lesser of Two Evils'
    « Reply #23 on: October 19, 2024, 09:29:36 AM »
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  •  :facepalm: doesn't validate you at all.

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    Re: Why Catholics Must Reject the 'Lesser of Two Evils'
    « Reply #24 on: October 19, 2024, 09:39:05 AM »
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  • Look at examples from The Vendee on how to handle compromise.

    Yea and they all got slaughtered, France is still a secular republic with over 50% and the vast majority being atheists, so a lot of good it did them, unless you suggest we wait another 100 years? The Sacred Heart to be used as a military standard was given to King Louis XIV who spurned it.

    The rebellion, while certainly understandable... was at that point merely futile and doomed from the beginning... it reached it's inevitable conclusion and spurred on the reign of terror, it was the martyrs of Compiegne that ended the reign of terror.

    In fact, by being so adamant, they condemned both the moderates and the radicals, so then the radicals won and executed the King and instituted the reign of terror, where both the Catholics and the moderates met the same fate.

    “O Liberty! What crimes are committed in thy name!” Madame Roland before she was guillotined.


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    Re: Why Catholics Must Reject the 'Lesser of Two Evils'
    « Reply #25 on: October 19, 2024, 10:04:45 AM »
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  • If the Catholics and Moderates realizing the reality of the situation had worked together toward common goals, the radical revolutionaries like Robespierre would not have been able to do all the evil things they did, neither would Napoleon have had such an opening to take absolute power and bring war to all of Europe.

    A lot of things could have been done to mitigate things and prevent that awful situation and that doomed rebellion (understandable, but way too little too late) was the final nail in the coffin, only halted by the Martyrs of Compiegne which eventually lead to the execution of Robespierre himself, meeting the same fate he sent so many other poor souls to, it wasn't the Vendee that achieved that, so if you want to use them as your example to follow then don't complain when you follow them in death too.

    Furthermore, someone like Napoleon could have been completely changed if King Louis XIV had of heeded the Sacred Heart in his time, as that would have absolutely fallen under the eyes of a young Napoleon Bonaparte in military study, but instead he chased after doomed figures like Julius Caesar.

    "Our Lady of Victory, Ark of the New Covenant, Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix and Advocate, Pray for us."