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Offline CharlesII

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While Hitler Turned to the Pope, Churchill Turned to Stalin
« on: November 13, 2014, 10:43:20 AM »
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  • Well, well, well. Look at what Mike & Sugar dug up while plowing through the cesspool that is the New York Slimes historical archive. For the past 7 decades, "court-historian" scum have ridiculed and condemned Adolf Hitler's claim that the reason he ordered the invasion of the Soviet Union in 1941 was because a Jewish-controlled Churchill was plotting to bring Stalin into the war against Germany. Now who would ever believe such a phony warmongering pretext as that?


     
    Well, as it turns out, back when Europe was still at peace, on May 11, 1939, the Sulzberger-Ochs Family's NY Slimes ran front page stories about how Churchill's "Conservative" Party was heavily pressuring Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain to bring Stalin's Soviet Union into a Franco-British-Polish anti-German alliance. The front page also confirms that (brace yourself) the Vatican and Germany wanted to sit down and hold peace talks with the Allies, but the warmongers of the UK flatly refused.
     
    What a find! Thank you New York Slimes!  (I love hanging these putrid propagandists with their own rope.)
     
    Former Catholic Altar-Boy Hitler and His Holiness were willing to hold peace talks with all interested parties. But Churchill and the Red Devil wanted none of it!

    Hitler and Pius XII wanted peace. For this, Pius has been tagged by propaganda historians as "Hitler's Pope".
     
    The blurred page image below is accompanied by an abridged reproduction of the stunning articles, with added analysis by your intrepid reporter highlighted in yellow.

    See Hitler Turned to the Pope for full article


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    While Hitler Turned to the Pope, Churchill Turned to Stalin
    « Reply #1 on: November 15, 2014, 06:31:34 PM »
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  • Ordinary jews were even members of Hitlers party - until the zionists called all out war on the German people so they retaliated.

    The zionists + Roosevelt (zionist jew) tried to drag USA into war in '39 but that failed.

    Instead they plotted and hatched "PEARL (Dar-hebrew) Harbour" for '42 and all the things leading up to it, that people have uncovered, that the elites orchestrated to make sure the Jap attack was a complete success!

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    Kimmel, a 1991 report concluded, fancied himself 'the American Nelson' and neglected his defenses while preparing for attack. He had already had a falling out with Short over the defense of Wake Island. Short wanted command if the Army was deployed there. Kimmel refused, and deployed the Marines instead. This falling out explained why vital intelligence was not forwarded from Kimmel to Short.

    Kimmel was fast-tracked over the heads of 46 other more experienced, senior commanders!

    Kimmel and Short must bear some of the responsibility for the losses at Pearl Harbor. Despite the warnings they had been given, they were not ready for war. But they were not the only commanders to be unprepared. General Douglas MacArthur on the Philippines, for example, had seven hours' warning after the attack on Pearl Harbor and his aircraft were also caught on the ground. He eventually conceded the Philippines with over 70,000 killed or taken prisoner, yet he went on to become a war hero.

    http://ospreypearlharbor.com/debate/where-does-blame-lie.php

    Note reported 'loss of life' in Masonic-jew numbers (first & second '11')
    88 dead on one ship
    3300 dead total!

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    Here's another zionist-masonic pre-planned at top level (spiritual wickedness in high places)

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    Australia’s Pearl Harbour’ – the bombing of Darwin

    The 19th February 1942 saw the first and most deadly bombing attack on the Australian mainland during the whole of the war. Japanese planes attacked the largely undefended northern city of Darwin and hit it with more bombs than at Pearl Harbour itself. The main targets were the ships in the harbour but the town was also hit in a second wave and at least 243 people died in total.

    The shock to Australia was far greater than the military significance of the raid, which was not a prelude to invasion as some thought. Subsequent official secrecy surrounding the raid, mainly designed to cover up the poor level of defences, only caused more controversy and rumours about much larger casualties.


    So Kimmel (navy commander) vs Short (Army defence commander) not communicating.
    Washington was not communicating

    And all the rest following!

    (Symbolisation - The Jimmy Kimmel (askenazi jew) show - just to rub your noses in a huge battle defeat!)


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    While Hitler Turned to the Pope, Churchill Turned to Stalin
    « Reply #2 on: November 16, 2014, 07:34:04 AM »
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  • It is true that Hitler did not want war with Europe, but followed the traditional German policy of Drang Noch Osten, the drive to the East, to carve a German Empire out of Eastern Europe. It is also true that Hitler approached the Vatican with offers of peace to England for them to stop the war after the invasion of Poland to capture the German city of Danzig.

    As for Churchill as late as 1939 he called for an alliance with Stalin and for all nations to "crush Hitler" just as in World War I when the war-hawk Churchill clamored for Britian to go to war.

    Well we all know what Stalin thought of the Pope. When asked by Roosevelt to listen to the Pope for advice about the fate of Europe Stalin contemptuously remarked, "How many divisions does the Pope have?"

    It is also true that Germany did Operation Barbarossa because England looked at the United States and the Soviet Union as their hope against Germany.

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    While Hitler Turned to the Pope, Churchill Turned to Stalin
    « Reply #3 on: November 16, 2014, 07:40:14 AM »
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  • Quote from: glaston
    Instead they plotted and hatched "PEARL (Dar-hebrew) Harbour" for '42 and all the things leading up to it, that people have uncovered, that the elites orchestrated to make sure the Jap attack was a complete success!


    While ignoring your hyperbole here, you are absolutely correct. FDR and his acolytes around him were using whatever means necessary to bring the United States into World War II. In fact the Administration was already sinking German U-boats and baiting Germany and Japan to fire the first shots when America was supposedly "neutral." As was mentioned above about England looking to America as their hope against Germany FDR was definitely no isolationist, but a warmonger.

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    While Hitler Turned to the Pope, Churchill Turned to Stalin
    « Reply #4 on: November 16, 2014, 07:43:16 AM »
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  • Germans & Poles have been fighting over a large chunk of German land for a Thousand years!

    Polish aristocrat knights stole it from Teutonic knights - Polish Royals vs Prussian Royals have had numerous battles/wars over the territory ever since.


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    « Reply #5 on: November 16, 2014, 11:27:19 PM »
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  • I think if we are going to talk about Hitler and the Church we need to talk about what Pope Pius XII had to say. We should study Mit Brennender Sorge.

     http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/pius_xi/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xi_enc_14031937_mit-brennender-sorge_en.html

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    « Reply #6 on: November 17, 2014, 03:23:57 PM »
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  • Quote from: poche
    http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/pius_xi/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xi_enc_14031937_mit-brennender-sorge_en.html


    Knowing you and your left-wing beliefs your obvious "anti-Nazi" crusade is a front used by you to say the Church supported the Social Democracy you support.

    Under Quadragessimo Anno:

    "117. But what if Socialism has really been so tempered and modified as to the class struggle and private ownership that there is in it no longer anything to be censured on these points? Has it thereby renounced its contradictory nature to the Christian religion? This is the question that holds many minds in suspense. And numerous are the Catholics who, although they clearly understand that Christian principles can never be abandoned or diminished seem to turn their eyes to the Holy See and earnestly beseech Us to decide whether this form of Socialism has so far recovered from false doctrines that it can be accepted without the sacrifice of any Christian principle and in a certain sense be baptized. That We, in keeping with Our fatherly solicitude, may answer their petitions, We make this pronouncement: Whether considered as a doctrine, or an historical fact, or a movement, Socialism, if it remains truly Socialism, even after it has yielded to truth and justice on the points which we have mentioned, cannot be reconciled with the teachings of the Catholic Church because its concept of society itself is utterly foreign to Christian truth.

    118. For, according to Christian teaching, man, endowed with a social nature, is placed on this earth so that by leading a life in society and under an authority ordained of God[54] he may fully cultivate and develop all his faculties unto the praise and glory of his Creator; and that by faithfully fulfilling the duties of his craft or other calling he may obtain for himself temporal and at the same time eternal happiness. Socialism, on the other hand, wholly ignoring and indifferent to this sublime end of both man and society, affirms that human association has been instituted for the sake of material advantage alone.  

     119. Because of the fact that goods are produced more efficiently by a suitable division of labor than by the scattered efforts of individuals, socialists infer that economic activity, only the material ends of which enter into their thinking, ought of necessity to be carried on socially. Because of this necessity, they hold that men are obliged, with respect to the producing of goods, to surrender and subject themselves entirely to society. Indeed, possession of the greatest possible supply of things that serve the advantages of this life is considered of such great importance that the higher goods of man, liberty not excepted, must take a secondary place and even be sacrificed to the demands of the most efficient production of goods. This damage to human dignity, undergone in the "socialized" process of production, will be easily offset, they say, by the abundance of socially produced goods which will pour out in profusion to individuals to be used freely at their pleasure for comforts and cultural development. Society, therefore, as Socialism conceives it, can on the one hand neither exist nor be thought of without an obviously excessive use of force; on the other hand, it fosters a liberty no less false, since there is no place in it for true social authority, which rests not on temporal and material advantages but descends from God alone, the Creator and last end of all things.[55]  

     120. If Socialism, like all errors, contains some truth (which, moreover, the Supreme Pontiffs have never denied), it is based nevertheless on a theory of human society peculiar to itself and irreconcilable with true Christianity. Religious socialism, Christian socialism, are contradictory terms; no one can be at the same time a good Catholic and a true socialist."

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    While Hitler Turned to the Pope, Churchill Turned to Stalin
    « Reply #7 on: November 17, 2014, 03:46:58 PM »
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  • Isn't Nazism where Atheism and Darwinism leads to? Hitler in fact secretly hated Christianity and was a Darwinian atheist or pagan who believed in evolution and "survival of the fittest". Watch this documentary, how I learned about it:


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    While Hitler Turned to the Pope, Churchill Turned to Stalin
    « Reply #8 on: November 17, 2014, 03:59:19 PM »
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  • So wasn't he an atheist?

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    « Reply #9 on: November 17, 2014, 04:19:48 PM »
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  • Quote from: ProtectorofOrder
    So wasn't he an atheist?


    Hitler's Table Talk goes all over the place in terms of his beliefs. In one passage he ridiculed atheism and said children should be taught the Bible, in another passage he says that Christianity was perverted from its true beliefs by St. Paul and in another passage he says Christianity was the greatest calamity ever invented and called it a Jewish religion.

    As for paganism Hitler ridiculed Himmler and other pagans in both Mein Kampf and his speeches.

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    While Hitler Turned to the Pope, Churchill Turned to Stalin
    « Reply #10 on: November 17, 2014, 04:44:10 PM »
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  • What about the later parts in the video where he said "I regard Christianity as the most fatal and seductive lie" and other anti-christian parts such as the antique world being "pure" cause they were untouched by Christianity?


     

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