Author Topic: What Would Mohammad Do? (Read 704 times)

Geremia · « **on:** November 24, 2016, 05:38:47 PM »

By the Catholic pro-life activist, host of Voice of Resistance, and Islamic studies scholar Randall Terry, the first episode (free) of his 10-part series What Would Mohammad Do?:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/cAVe56kB74A[/youtube]

Geremia · « **Reply #1 on:** November 24, 2016, 09:22:11 PM »

The whole series, especially its last segment, reminded me of St. Thomas Aquinas's Summa Contra Gentiles lib. 1 cap. 6, where he compares Christianity (§§1-3) and Islam (§4):

Quote from: St. Thomas Aquinas

THAT TO GIVE ASSENT TO THE TRUTHS OF FAITH IS NOT FOOLISHNESS EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE ABOVE REASON

[1] Those who place their faith in this truth, however, “for which the human reason offers no experimental evidence,” do not believe foolishly, as though “following artificial fables” (2 Peter 2:16).

For these “secrets of divine Wisdom” (Job 11:6) the divine Wisdom itself, which knows all things to the full, has deigned to reveal to men. It reveals its own presence, as well as the truth of its teaching and inspiration, by fitting arguments; and in order to confirm those truths that exceed natural knowledge, it gives visible manifestation to works that surpass the ability of all nature. Thus, there are the wonderful cures of illnesses, there is the raising of the dead, and the wonderful immutation in the heavenly bodies; and what is more wonderful, there is the inspiration given to human minds, so that simple and untutored persons, filled with the gift of the Holy Spirit, come to possess instantaneously the highest wisdom and the readiest eloquence.

When these arguments were examined, through the efficacy of the abovementioned proof, and not the violent assault of arms or the promise of pleasure, and (what is most wonderful of all) in the midst of the tyranny of the persecutors, an innumerable throng of people, both simple and most learned, flocked to the Christian faith. In this faith there are truths preached that surpass every human intellect; the pleasures of the flesh are curbed; it is taught that the things of the world should be spurned. Now, for the minds of mortal men to assent to these things is the greatest of miracles, just as it is a manifest work of divine inspiration that, spurning visible things, men should seek only what is invisible.

Now, that this has happened neither without preparation nor by chance, but as a result of the disposition of God, is clear from the fact that through many pronouncements of the ancient prophets God had foretold that He would do this. The books of these prophets are held in veneration among us Christians, since they give witness to our faith.

[2] The manner of this confirmation is touched on by St. Paul: “Which,” that is, human salvation, “having begun to be declared by the Lord, was confirmed to us by them that hear Him: God also bearing them witness of signs, and wonders, and divers miracles, and distributions of the Holy Spirit” (Heb. 7:3-4).

[3] This wonderful conversion of the world to the Christian faith is the clearest witness of the signs given in the past; so that it is not necessary that they should be further repeated, since they appear most clearly in their effect. For it would be truly more wonderful than all signs if the world had been led by simple and humble men to believe such lofty truths, to accomplish such difficult actions, and to have such high hopes. Yet it is also a fact that, even in our own time, God does not cease to work miracles through His saints for the confirmation of the faith.

[4] On the other hand, those who founded sects committed to erroneous doctrines proceeded in a way that is opposite to this, The point is clear in the case of Muhammad. He seduced the people by promises of carnal pleasure to which the concupiscence of the flesh goads us. His teaching also contained precepts that were in conformity with his promises, and he gave free rein to carnal pleasure. In all this, as is not unexpected, he was obeyed by carnal men. As for proofs of the truth of his doctrine, he brought forward only such as could be grasped by the natural ability of anyone with a very modest wisdom. Indeed, the truths that he taught he mingled with many fables and with doctrines of the greatest falsity. He did not bring forth any signs produced in a supernatural way, which alone fittingly gives witness to divine inspiration; for a visible action that can be only divine reveals an invisibly inspired teacher of truth. On the contrary, Muhammad said that he was sent in the power of his arms—which are signs not lacking even to robbers and tyrants. What is more, no wise men, men trained in things divine and human, believed in him from the beginning, Those who believed in him were brutal men and desert wanderers, utterly ignorant of all divine teaching, through whose numbers Muhammad forced others to become his followers by the violence of his arms. Nor do divine pronouncements on the part of preceding prophets offer him any witness. On the contrary, he perverts almost all the testimonies of the Old and New Testaments by making them into fabrications of his own, as can be. seen by anyone who examines his law. It was, therefore, a shrewd decision on his part to forbid his followers to read the Old and New Testaments, lest these books convict him of falsity. It is thus clear that those who place any faith in his words believe foolishly.

klasG4e · « **Reply #2 on:** November 25, 2016, 04:48:24 PM »

Terry appears as though he wouldn't know what a fαℓѕє fℓαg op was even if it bit him.

Geremia · « **Reply #3 on:** November 25, 2016, 05:39:07 PM »

Quote from: klasG4e

Terry appears as though he wouldn't know what a fαℓѕє fℓαg op was even if it bit him.

I think what you're getting it as that Terry doesn't think the ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic U.S. is really allied with Islam?

He had an episode on "Islamic Anti-Semitism." Where was the episode devoted entirely to "Islamic Anti-Christianity"? And in the last episode he mentions the U.S. should return to its "ʝʊdɛօ-Christian values"…

Also in the last episode, he does mention how lawmakers should not arm any Muslims, as there is no such thing as a "peaceful Muslim." He recommends arming Jєωs and Christians instead, yet he said of Muslims: "He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword"…

Nevertheless, if you want to know how ridiculous and insane Islam and Muhammad are, this series fulfills that purpose well. However, he didn't mention the Jєωιѕн influence on Muhammad, nor the similarity between тαℓмυdic and Sharia laws (e.g., both say one can lie to, cheat, and kill infidels; cf. тαℓмυd Unmasked).

klasG4e · « **Reply #4 on:** November 25, 2016, 07:05:12 PM »

Terry clearly indicates that Muslims were responsible for 9-11. This is really nuts -- a horrendous error -- and should properly discredit him. Nevertheless, this doesn't take away from so much good that he has done.

Most unfortunately, he was willing to give credence to the official 9-11 lie by burning the Koran in front of the White House on the 12th anniversary of 9-11. I wonder how willing he would be to burn a copy of the тαℓмυd in front of the White House on any day of the year

As for the Angelic Doctor, perhaps Terry would like to redirect some of his preaching to the current leaders of the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan. As a guide and inspiration he could use the following from the Summa seen at Article 2. Whether Christ should have preached to the Jєωs without offending them?

Article 2. Whether Christ should have preached to the Jєωs without offending them?

Objection 1. It would seem that Christ should have preached to the Jєωs without offending them. For, as Augustine says (De Agone Christ. xi): "In the Man Jesus Christ, a model of life is given us by the Son of God." But we should avoid offending not only the faithful, but even unbelievers, according to 1 Corinthians 10:32: "Be without offense to the Jєωs, and to the Gentiles, and to the Church of God." Therefore it seems that, in His teaching, Christ should also have avoided giving offense to the Jєωs.

Objection 2. Further, no wise man should do anything that will hinder the result of his labor. Now through the disturbance which His teaching occasioned among the Jєωs, it was deprived of its results; for it is written (Luke 11:53-54) that when our Lord reproved the Pharisees and Scribes, they "began vehemently to urge Him, end to oppress His mouth about many things; lying in wait for Him, and seeking to catch something from His mouth, that they might accuse Him." It seems therefore unfitting that He should have given them offense by His teaching.

Objection 3. Further, the Apostle says (1 Timothy 5:1): "An ancient man rebuke not; but entreat him as a father." But the priests and princes of the Jєωs were the elders of that people. Therefore it seems that they should not have been rebuked with severity.

On the contrary, It was foretold (Isaiah 8:14) that Christ would be "for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offense to the two houses of Israel."

I answer that, The salvation of the multitude is to be preferred to the peace of any individuals whatsoever. Consequently, when certain ones, by their perverseness, hinder the salvation of the multitude, the preacher and the teacher should not fear to offend those men, in order that he may insure the salvation of the multitude. Now the Scribes and Pharisees and the princes of the Jєωs were by their malice a considerable hindrance to the salvation of the people, both because they opposed themselves to Christ's doctrine, which was the only way to salvation, and because their evil ways corrupted the morals of the people. For which reason our Lord, undeterred by their taking offense, publicly taught the truth which they hated, and condemned their vices. Hence we read (Matthew 15:12,14) that when the disciples of our Lord said: "Dost Thou know that the Pharisees, when they heard this word, were scandalized?" He answered: "Let them alone: they are blind and leaders of the blind; and if the blind lead the blind, both fall into the pit."

Reply to Objection 1. A man ought so to avoid giving offense, as neither by wrong deed or word to be the occasion of anyone's downfall. "But if scandal arise from truth, the scandal should be borne rather than the truth be set aside," as Gregory says (Hom. vii in Ezech.).

Reply to Objection 2. By publicly reproving the Scribes and Pharisees, Christ promoted rather than hindered the effect of His teaching. Because when the people came to know the vices of those men, they were less inclined to be prejudiced against Christ by hearing what was said of Him by the Scribes and Pharisees, who were ever withstanding His doctrine.

Reply to Objection 3. This saying of the Apostle is to be understood of those elders whose years are reckoned not only in age and authority, but also in probity; according to Numbers 11:16: "Gather unto Me seventy men of the ancients of Israel, whom thou knowest to be ancients . . . of the people." But if by sinning openly they turn the authority of their years into an instrument of wickedness, they should be rebuked openly and severely, as also Daniel says (Daniel 13:52): "O thou that art grown old in evil days," etc.

Geremia · « **Reply #5 on:** November 25, 2016, 07:26:09 PM »

Quote from: klasG4e

Terry clearly indicates that Muslims were responsible for 9-11. This is really nuts -- a horrendous error -- and should properly discredit him.

Muslims were not in any way responsible?

klasG4e · « **Reply #6 on:** November 25, 2016, 08:26:59 PM »

Geremia

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Muslims were not in any way responsible [for 9-11]?

If by your question you are suggesting that they were I hope you could explain exactly how. Be advised, however, that I am very well educated on the subject and am not going to spend time trying to convince you or anyone else on this forum of who planned, executed, and covered up 9-11.

Geremia · « **Reply #7 on:** November 25, 2016, 08:51:07 PM »

Quote from: klasG4e

Geremia
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Muslims were not in any way responsible [for 9-11]?

If by your question you are suggesting that they were I hope you could explain exactly how. Be advised, however, that I am very well educated on the subject and am not going to spend time trying to convince you or anyone else on this forum of who planned, executed, and covered up 9-11.

From what I understand, the U.S. basically paid Osama to be an imposter/poser. Is that correct? If so, Muslims were at least an instrumental cause of 9-11.

Mark 79 · « **Reply #8 on:** November 25, 2016, 09:40:37 PM »

Since the inception of Islam, the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan has tried to use Islam as a sort of golem against the Church and Christendom. The ѕуηαgσgυє's arrogance and over-confidence is matched by their ineptitude, because Islam has proven to be an intractable tool that has turned on the erstwhile Master Race manipulators.