Welcome countrychurch. Really I do not qualify to post on your new thread because not only do I not watch Fox News, I do not watch or listen to any mainstream media news. That would be a better way for you to go too, if you want to find the truth.

I suggest, you read the fixture near the top of page 1 of New Posts "Turn off the TV" here,  http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=3196&min=0&num=10 if you haven't already.

 

I do think the anti-Jєω rant is over the top. You don't judge someone by what group he belongs to or appears to belong to.

Well the group YOU belong to does say a lot about YOU. Do you know any nice satanists, for example? I know a few "nice" Jehovah's Witnesses. There are certain things that pertain to these two groups that apply to each and every one who accepts their code. And there are certain beliefs and a certain code that applies specifically to Jєωs. Maybe you can say what you read here that is "over the top".

I do think the anti-Jєω rant is over the top. You don't judge someone by what group he belongs to or appears to belong to.

Are you Catholic? Have you read the saints' anti-Jєω "rants"? Have you heard of St. John Chrysostom's Homilies Against The Jєωs?

Have you heard of these "rants" from the following saints (among many more teachings from other saints) regarding the Jєωs?:

If someone should kill the beloved son of a man, and then stretch forth their hands still stained with blood to the afflicted father, asking for fellowship, would not the blood of his son, visible on the hand of his murderer, provoke him to just anger instead? And such are the prayers of the Jєωs, for when they stretch forth their hands in prayer, they only remind God-the-Father of their sin against His Son. And at every stretching-forth of their hands, they only make it obvious that they are stained with the blood of Christ. For they who persevere in their blindness inherit the blood-guilt of their fathers; for they cried out: "His blood be upon us, and upon our children" (Matthew xxvii.25). ~ St. Basil the Great

Since this wicked generation did not know that it should repent, but daily became more wicked, its last state was worse than its first ... The evil and adulterous generation of the Jєωs were to be condemned because of their hard and unrepentant hearts. ~ St. Bruno

[...] God hates the Jєωs, and on Judgment Day He will say to those who sympathize with them., "Depart from Me, for you have had intercourse with My murderers!" Flee, then, from their assemblies, fly from their houses, and, far from venerating the ѕуηαgσgυє, hold it in hatred and aversion. ~ St. John Chrysostom

O Jєωιѕн hearts, harder than rocks! ~ St. Ambrose

Jєωs are cursed and covered with malediction as by a cloak. The curse has penetrated them like water in their bowels and oil in their bones. They are cursed in the city and cursed in the country, cursed in their coming in and cursed in their going out. Cursed are the fruits of their loins, of their lands, of their flocks; cursed are their cellars, their granaries, their shops, their food, the very crumbs off their tables! ~ St. Agobard

I knew in my faith that the Jєωs were accursed and condemned without end, except those who were converted. ~ Bl. Juliana of Norwich

The Jєωs are enemies of God and foes of our holy religion. ~ Padre Pio

The Jєωs knew that Christ was the son of David. And even now they hope for His Coming. It is hidden from them that He has come, but it is hidden because they willed it so. For, not acknowledging Him on the cross, the knowledge of Him reigning in glory should not be theirs ... Why are the Jєωs hoping for what has already come, and not fearful for what is to come? For Our Lord Jesus Christ ... referred Himself as "the Stone" (Matthew xxi.44), that whoever stumbles upon it shall be bruised; but upon whom it shall fall, it will grind to powder ... Lying on the ground, it shakes whoever falls over it; coming from on high, it crushes the proud. The Jєωs have already been shaken by their previous stumble. What awaits them is to be crushed by His Coming. ~ St. Augustine

Fox News is another liberal news organ.  However, they do seem to present opposing views on most issues and that is something that other news outlets don't generally do.  This makes them seem conservative to most people.  

The one subject on which they completely toe the liberal line on, however, is ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity.

On the whole, however, it does give you more actual information than many mainstream media outlets.  It is still best to supplement news from other sources.

Fox News is another liberal news organ.  However, they do seem to present opposing views on most issues and that is something that other news outlets don't generally do.  This makes them seem conservative to most people.  

The one subject on which they completely toe the liberal line on, however, is ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity.

On the whole, however, it does give you more actual information than many mainstream media outlets.  It is still best to supplement news from other sources.

well, i dont see where they actually PROMOTE ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, although they have had an "outing" or 2 (gαys coming out of the closet on air)

i never heard about Shep being gαy (still dont have verification of that) except through some other poster, not Fox. I do not get the feeling they promote ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, just accept it. But they are wrong to accept it as though it is something one is born with. Of course, there is differing opinions but... yeh, i know they are not exactly conservative, esp on the abortion issue. I think many on Fox dislike abortion but some i wonder about..  

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I do think the anti-Jєω rant is over the top. You don't judge someone by what group he belongs to or appears to belong to.

Are you Catholic? Have you read the saints' anti-Jєω "rants"?

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The Jєωs knew that Christ was the son of David. And even now they hope for His Coming. It is hidden from them that He has come, but it is hidden because they willed it so. For, not acknowledging Him on the cross, the knowledge of Him reigning in glory should not be theirs ... Why are the Jєωs hoping for what has already come, and not fearful for what is to come? For Our Lord Jesus Christ ... referred Himself as "the Stone" (Matthew xxi.44), that whoever stumbles upon it shall be bruised; but upon whom it shall fall, it will grind to powder ... Lying on the ground, it shakes whoever falls over it; coming from on high, it crushes the proud. The Jєωs have already been shaken by their previous stumble. What awaits them is to be crushed by His Coming. ~ St. Augustine

I am very Catholic

no, i had never read those rants of the saints against the Jєωs. But thanks. And even though i had never read them b4, i HAD been having some .. shall we say "negative" thoughts about them just generally speaking, mostly in the last couple yrs... just from my own observations and thoughts. I mean, i began to think about it: Why are the Jєωs.. um... still Jєωs? What kind of a Savior could they possibly want other than Jesus?

So yeh.. i began to see irrespective of the saints' comments that the Jєωs are illogical at best.. and i also hate the way a lot of prominent Jєωs are not only Democrats but pretty pro-abortion. Disgusting. But what do we expect from those who reject Christ?

I am glad the saints say it is OK to be "anti-Jєω" However, that being said, i give every individual a chance b4... "hating" him... and NO i am NOT saying any particular poster is a hater, meaning someone who hates for no logical reason. The thing is, the Catholic Church, people therein, are partly responsible for the Jєωs not converting b/c they do not seem overly evangelical.. no, most catholics seem to stick to daily Mass and ... not venture to evangelize others a lot, just my reality (though i admit i could "get out" more..)[/size]

Just like the establishment GOP is a tool for herding us toward NWO, so too is Fox News.  The objective is herd a wider swath than CNN & MSNBC could herd without it.  I used to be glued to FoxNews.  But not for about 5 years or so now.  What started turning me off to them is they're too damn Mormon-friendly for my taste.

Yes. We were watching Fox News.  I'm sick of it. Shep is a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ and he is on during day.
Many liberals like Geraldo, Juan Williams, megyn kelly, Kennedy...  Anyone who is remotely conservative is placed at night when most people are in bed like Hannity.

Anyone who supports gαy marriage and sodomy is not a conservative.