Lad:

We vote out of principle.  If we can't vote for Trump on principle, that is NOT a "vote for Hillary"

That's sounds noble and high-fallutin alright, but it's utter nonsense, IMO.  We vote for Trump, not because he is an angel, or even a good and sincere person.  He obviously has a past. He's a very successful real estate tycoon in a very Democrat Jew state.  He knows how to get along in that environment, whom to stroke and pander to, whom to support, whose rear ends to kiss.  He's admitted as much many times over.

He's even married a couple of his kids off to Jews.  That was good for business.  He proclaims 100% support for Israel.  That is also good for business.  But I've watched him display unveiled contempt for certain Jєωιѕн politicians, and to excoriate the jew press with impunity.

Hate him or love him, he is, it seems, the only thing standing between us and 6 or 7 liberal Jews on the Supreme  Court. He's the only one promising to seal  our borders and to keep the undocuмented, unvetted unwashed masses out, an to cut off the flow of drugs.  He alone of the two candidates, it seems, will cease the U.S. military adventurism in far flung places, and stop the Pentagon's habitual warmongering.  Only Trump wants to get along with the world's second most powerful nation, and seek some rapport with its leader.  Trump alone promises to drain the Washington swamp, and to shovel all the s____t out of agencies like the State Dep. Pentagon, DOJ and FBI.  He alone attacks Common Core,  the Dept. of Education and public education in general.  He alone proposes imposing Congressional term limits.  He alone proposes to do something solid in order to improve the lot of impoverished minorities.  And, of course, only Trump wants to bring jobs back to the U.S. and correct the enormous trade imbalances with countries like China.

If Trump is a total phony, what can we say?  But if he isn't, or if he is somewhagt sincere, then maybe his presidency might spell a reprieve for America, and keep this nation from being flushed down the figurative historical toilet into which all the great nations and empires have been eventually dumped

http://www.rense.com/general96/proofpollsrigged.htm


 
Proof The Polls Are Rigged & Trump Is Winning
News Media Versus The Social Media
Americans Are Laughing At The MSM


From The Internet
10-24-16
 
The mainstream media bashes Trump so much that the bashing has become funny and not believable.

In fact the mainstream media is so one sided that it has become the laughing stock of the average American.

The man and woman on the street knows the media is crooked and alleged media polls are rigged.

 On-line social media has become the alternative to the tainted mainstream media.

Social media is “off the books" and reflect a more accurate picture of the electorate.

Social media  shows a totally different story of the campaign.

 Five (5) Facts that show Trump is actually winning:


Fact #1:

Trump has three times the followers on Facebook.

Trump: 12,174,358 likes.
Clinton : 4,385,959 likes.

Look what Trump's live stream videos do when compared to Hillary's.
Trump Live Stream Post 21 hours ago:
135,000 likes, 18,167 shares, 1.5 million views.
Clinton Live Stream Post 25 hours ago:  
9,000 likes, 0 shares, 121,000 views


Fact #2:

Trump has 18.6 million twitter followers.
Hillary Clinton has only 6.1 million.*

The best part is that most of Hillary's are actually fake.
According to the Washington Examiner, 41 percent of Hillary's followers are not even real people!

In contrast, The Daily Caller says that Trump's followers are 90% real with  90% of them having a previous voting record!


Fact #3:

 Trump averages 160k viewers per live stream.
*Clinton averages 400 viewers per live stream.

Trump also gets 5,000 percent more eyeballs focused on the screen than Clinton.

Basically viewers find her boring.


Fact #4:

Trump has 6.2 million Instagram followers.
Clinton has 800,000 Instagram followers.

Instagram is a platform with mostly all pictures and not much substance.

Hillary would be expected to do better in this medium. Hillary is doing poorly in this medium.
Fact #5:

On Reddit Trump: 297,696 subscribers and Clinton : 21,429 subscribers

Hillary for Prison: she gets 255,228 subscribers!

Trump has more subscribers than Clinton on every major social media outlet!

There are nearly 3 times as many people subscribed to Hillary for Prison than there are subscribed to the Clinton page!

The best part is that the D.N.C.'s leaked emails from WikiLeaks have proven that Clinton pays people to support her online.

Trump supporters on the other hand willingly actually like and follow him on Social media.

Trump will win barring election fraud

Trump actually has the support of the people.

He is going to win this election come November no matter what the mainstream media would like you to believe.

 Undercover reports like VERITAS show that Hillary is preparing a massive voter fraud operation to counter the will of the people.

Wonder why is the news media biased against Trump?

 
Here are the hard facts:

Biggest 6 Company's own all the news networks

ABC News executive producer Ian Cameron is married to Susan Rice, National Security Adviser.

CBS President David Rhodes is the *brother of Ben Rhodes, Obama's Deputy National Security Adviser for Strategic Communications.

NBC News *correspondent Claire Shipman is married to former Whitehouse Press Secretary Jay Carney.

ABC News and *Univision reporter Matthew Jaffe is married to Katie Hogan, Obama's Deputy Press Secretary.

ABC President Ben Sherwood is the *brother of Obama's Special Adviser* Elizabeth Sherwood.

CNN President Virginia Moseley is married to former Hillary Clinton's Deputy Secretary Tom Nides.

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Right now, every single American needs to share this article with friends and relatives.

We need to fight these rigged polls that seem to come out every day.
Hillary Clinton is trying to con the American public into voting for her.

We have to fight against the MainStream Media [it truly is the MSM =Mafia'SMedia] and their attempts to steal the election away from Trump.

 

 

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Some opinions from my point of view;

First of all, I know it may appear to some here that I'm a Trump supporter. Well, I'm not, nor am I going to vote. But, I do insist that of all the candidates, he's the most prudent choice. He's not bought and payed for, which would tend to allow me to give him more of the benefit of the doubt.        

A lot of my opinions that have been formed while observing this election cycle, have been under an umbrella of something +Williamson has stated numerous times. "This is just a dress-rehearsal." This, I believe, is very true.
   
 I really believe that the ilk, such as Soros and the like, believe that they are on the home stretch of fully implementing their NWO agenda.  This leads me to believe that they MUST get Clinton into office at all costs. She has NO moral compass,   whatsoever. She'll do anything to maintain power and wealth, at any cost.

As for Trump, it's anyone's guess how he made it through the primaries and then to clinch the nomination I'm of the opinion that he's way to loose in his campaign to be just another puppet. Just look at all the embarrassment that has risen from all of the recent data dumps by Wikileaks and the release of some damning videos by Project Veritas. (And no, the Russians are not behind this!) These have played very much into the Trump camp. I really don't believe this is what the Elite expected or had in mind.        
                                                 
He has risen as an "Outsider" being more like a nationalist and/or a populist. IMO, this has made him attractive to many Americans as they see more and more of their freedoms taken from them.  His campaign has brought a great bit of attention to the fact that this Nation's borders have been plundered for the benefit of the Globalist's agenda.  I don't think the Elite really wanted us mushrooms to be exposed to this  light.

As for Trump's campaign being just another sham by the establishment, there's just too many variables at play here for me to be convinced that this was planned and executed by the Elite. It's  most likely that what we are seeing is just reactionary, there're many who do share this view.

With all this said, I believe at this point if this is what's really happening, it could be good for this Nation.     If Trump where to win by a good number of voters with leanings towards  nationalism/populism, it could open a door for a substantial change in this government's governing principles. It could possibly lean away from the founding principles, which threw God under the bus, with a more of an authoritarian type of government. I would consider that a necessary first step.    

I conclude that this is just a dress-rehearsal for the globalists. I think there's a good chance the masks are going to be removed from the faces (and they're being revealed now) from these globalist monsters and send them underground for a while.  And regardless of the outcome of this election, I believe there is going to be some sort of civil unrest.  If Clinton gets in, she'll send her jack-booted thugs to round up her current opponents. If Trump gets in, the Clinton machine is not going to lie down quietly.
       
Maybe I'm just full of hot air, but thought I'd share my current point of view...

St. Ign.:

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First of all, I know it may appear to some here that I'm a Trump supporter. Well, I'm not, nor am I going to vote. But, I do insist that of all the candidates, he's the most prudent choice. He's not bought and payed for, which would tend to allow me to give him more of the benefit of the doubt.

I find this quote puzzling, especially after reading the rest of your post.  You seem to view a prospective Trump presidency pretty positively.  Yet you're not going to vote.  Far be it from me to try to persuade you or anyone one way or the other.  It just strikes me as strange that you should reason this way.

I can see why one would be puzzled here, my bad.

I've never voted in a national election nor have I ever registered to vote. I've followed quite a few elections and never have been compelled to vote in a known sham.  I must say that this election cycle is unusual and has been interesting. I think much of what makes it different, is we have a candidate who doesn't play by the rules of the establishment play book.  Consequently, things have been introduced into the arena that would not have been otherwise. I've always known that the opinions of the masses have been formed by a few, primarily through the mass media to form the outcome of elections. Unless this obstacle is removed, my vote is futile. Although, there seems to be a swing of influence of forming opinions and of the sharing of information in the world of social media. All I can say now is that my opinions are very much shadowed with optimism and speculation. These are hardly grounds for me to believe that I have a moral obligation to vote in this election.

However, with this said... the philosophy that a vote for Trump, not because one is  necessarily a supporter of him, is a vote against Hillary, I may be able to do in good conscience. Because if one gives the benefit of the doubt to Trump on what he says, I think it's possible for a Catholic to do so in good conscience. But it's too late for me now to participate, for the registration deadline has passed some time ago.

If you're not physically clicking the checkbox next to Hillary Clinton's name, you're not guilty of voting for Hillary, period.

You might be foolish, you might be naive, you might be idealistic, but you're not sinfully voting for Hillary Clinton.

Good clarification.

Someone sent me a PM about the fact that Trump holds to the usual "exceptions" for a ban on abortion:  rape, incest, life of the mother, etc.

Is that a positive evil?

I look at it this way, as Trump saying he's in favor of banning 90% of all abortions.  Is banning 90% of all abortions positive evil?  It's evil by privation, negatively, because it doesn't go far enough.  But it could also be a prudential judgment along the lines of "it's probably the most we could get away with, as a first step."  That might be similar to how he backed of his statement that women should be punished for having abortions.

Now, if abortion were illegal, and Trump were promoting legalizing it for the same circuмstances (rape, incest, etc.) ... then that would be a positive evil.

In terms of "gαy rights", to me it sounds more like Trump is in favor of "tolerance" for various prudential reasons.  But, again, please correct me if I'm wrong.

Now, really the biggest thing I've seen so far is that Trump has been strongly in favor of torture up to and including taking out the "families" of suspected terrorists.  That statement leaves me rather anxious about casting my vote for him.  Is he going to be in favor of killing innnocent people in the interests of national security?  Some of his statements suggest that he might.  If so, I couldn't vote for him ... since the blood would then be on my hands when he does it.  No, voting is not a mere material cooperation in his evil.  Voting is inherently a formal cooperation because it is what empowers someone to do what they do.   If I could have predicted some evil that Trump would do based on his positions during campaigning, then I become a formal cooperator in those evils by voting for him.

"Lesser of evils" crap is decidedly non-Catholic.

Now, if one wanted to argue double-effect, then many conditions apply.  So, for instance, if I wanted to vote for Trump in order to prevent abortion, with the unintended double effect that Trump might kill some innocent people in the context of terrorism, one could make a case.  Except I don't believe that Trump or any other Republican will do ANYTHING to actually stop abortion.  More progress has been made against abortion at the state level than anywhere else.  But, if Hillary gets the SCOTUS appointments instead of Trump, then we know that the new SCOTUS will certainly shoot down all these state laws intended to curtail abortion.

We the Deplorables VOTE FOR TRUMP, come on Ladislaus join the Deplorables and vote for Trump.