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Offline choakley

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Re: Help the President
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2020, 09:44:27 AM »
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  • One of the key criteria for a just war is that the war must be a last resort.  We must exhaust other avenues. It behooves us to make every effort to avert the necessity of outright war.


    All other avenues have been exhausted, really since 9/11. It's long overdue. In fact, it's dereliction of duty of citizens and God-serving people. God will not help those who don't help themselves or aren't willing to make personal sacrifices.

    It is better to choose a commendable war than peace which separates from God.
    ~ St. Gregory




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    Re: Help the President
    « Reply #16 on: November 13, 2020, 10:14:28 AM »
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  • All other avenues have been exhausted, really since 9/11. It's long overdue. In fact, it's dereliction of duty of citizens and God-serving people. God will not help those who don't help themselves or aren't willing to make personal sacrifices.

    It is better to choose a commendable war than peace which separates from God.
    ~ St. Gregory




    I agree.
    And this is my response to Mark79 (et al) if they pointed out their principles for sending in a letter. To me, we've already done a good-faith effort to avoid war. It's already long overdue.
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    Re: Help the President
    « Reply #17 on: November 13, 2020, 10:28:29 AM »
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  • FYI: There will be a "Stop the Steal" rally at every State Capitol buildings tomorrow at 12 noon (although it may have a different name, depending on the organization that is running it locally). There is a website with more details, if someone has that please put it up, otherwise I will try to find it when I get back home.

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    Re: Help the President
    « Reply #18 on: November 14, 2020, 07:36:27 AM »
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  • Today at 12 noon at your State Capitol: https://trumpmarch.com/events/

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    Re: Help the President
    « Reply #19 on: November 14, 2020, 07:57:46 AM »
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  • In the case of an eventual war, there's not a side that really favors Catholicism. The leaders of any eventual war are not likely to be Catholic, and therefore truly Catholic principles will not be a guiding force. Catholics will, instead, be required to follow a Protestant leader, such as Trump. Are Catholics really going to give their all (including possibly their lives) for a supposed Protestant/extreme capitalist victory? Because such a victory, if it happens, will not have enduring Catholic principles behind it. And we'll still have the some problems of Americanism and extreme capitalism. Those won't go away, even though the Marxist faction of extreme capitalism may appear to be defeated for awhile (though it will never completely go away if the current form of capitalism is still allowed to prevail).

    As much as I support Trump, there are limits as to what I'm willing to give to my support to, since Trump isn't Catholic and he doesn't understand how true Catholicism works.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29


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    Re: Help the President
    « Reply #20 on: November 14, 2020, 03:54:18 PM »
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  • Today at 12 noon at your State Capitol: https://trumpmarch.com/events/
    Stop The Steal – DC
     November 14, 2020 12:00 PM
     Freedom Plaza, DC
    State Capitol Protest – Juneau, AK
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     401 South Second Street, Springfield, IL 62707
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    Re: Help the President
    « Reply #21 on: November 15, 2020, 01:49:14 PM »
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  • As much as I support Trump, there are limits as to what I'm willing to give to my support to, since Trump isn't Catholic and he doesn't understand how true Catholicism works.
    Nevertheless, if we look at his behavior, he has an innate understanding of Just War as explained by the Church.
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    Re: Help the President
    « Reply #22 on: November 15, 2020, 01:53:42 PM »
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  • I don't see it either, to be honest.

    But I'm bound by my principles, at this point, to NOT send in a letter. Like I said, even if someone filled it out for me and addressed & stamped an envelope, and the mailbox and trash can were both 5 feet away -- I'd choose the trash can.

    Not giving spammers what they want is the PRIME DIRECTIVE for me.

    That hasn't caused me any conflicts with the Faith, morality, etc. because good guys and good causes don't spam. Period.
    We are all too familiar with sophisticated disinfo campgains, fαℓѕє fℓαgs, Hegelian dialectic, etc. It is possible that someone attempting to offend Trump supporters did this in order to have the desired effect.
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