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Offline songbird

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Re: Vance Refused to Kiss Prevost’s Ring
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2025, 09:35:49 PM »
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    • Could it be, that Vance is in New Order, which is Masonry. Therefore, he never converted, but he wants the world to think he is?  Like Crypto-Jews, pretenders.
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Vance Refused to Kiss Prevost’s Ring
    « Reply #16 on: May 22, 2025, 11:40:06 PM »
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    • He's just slightly more "Catholic" (as if the term admits of degrees) than Biden, Pelos, Bergoglio, et al.

    With the Conciliar Church, there is in fact a spectrum under their "big tent" ... from flaming heretics who pertinaciously deny many dogmas, who are termed "liberal" "Catholics" and then those who non-pertinaciously hold to only a small handful of errors (the "Trads" within Conciliarism), and those who are "conservative", meaning they only deny one or two dogmas, compared to the "liberals".  Just the fact that the Conciliar Church recognizes all these as "Catholics" in some sense invalidates the entire religion.

    If pertinacious heretics are Catholic and so are people who actually believe Church teaching, then whatever that definition of "Catholic" is that can encompass this entire spectrum or range of people, I am not one of those and I reject their definiton of the term.
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    Offline phillips

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    Re: Vance Refused to Kiss Prevost’s Ring
    « Reply #17 on: May 22, 2025, 11:57:11 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on May 22, 2025, 11:40:06 PM
    He's just slightly more "Catholic" (as if the term admits of degrees) than Biden, Pelos, Bergoglio, et al.
    what would you know about catholic? your heretical hide says "God isn't a catholic god" . what a heretical retard you are
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    Re: Vance Refused to Kiss Prevost’s Ring
    « Reply #18 on: Yesterday at 04:12:04 AM »
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    • Quote from: phillips on May 22, 2025, 11:57:11 PM
    what would you know about catholic? your heretical hide says "God isn't a catholic god" . what a heretical retard you are
    I have heard this said several times. Please provide the context. Accusing someone of being a heretic should not be talked about lightly.
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Vance Refused to Kiss Prevost’s Ring
    « Reply #19 on: Yesterday at 05:41:49 AM »
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    • Quote from: Gray2023 on Yesterday at 04:12:04 AM
    I have heard this said several times. Please provide the context. Accusing someone of being a heretic should not be talked about lightly.

    It's Croix having a sugar-brain meltdown.  I never agreed with that formula, merely explained how there is a sense in which it's true, namely, where we cannot apply any adjectives to God, He transcends all characteristics.  That's why God revealed His '"name" merely as "I am".  God merely is.  He is not this, that, or the other thing.  What Croix called "scholarly gymnastics" is basically the first week of Thomistic Philosophy 101.

    I also explained how taken in another sense it is heretical, and that Bergoglio likely had a confused blend of the heretical and non-heretical meanings in his muddled brain.

    Croix needs some healthy fats in his diet before what's left of his brain shrivels up.

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    Re: Vance Refused to Kiss Prevost’s Ring
    « Reply #20 on: Yesterday at 07:10:47 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on Yesterday at 05:41:49 AM
    It's Croix having a sugar-brain meltdown.  I never agreed with that formula, merely explained how there is a sense in which it's true, namely, where we cannot apply any adjectives to God, He transcends all characteristics.  That's why God revealed His '"name" merely as "I am".  God merely is.  He is not this, that, or the other thing.  What Croix called "scholarly gymnastics" is basically the first week of Thomistic Philosophy 101.

    I also explained how taken in another sense it is heretical, and that Bergoglio likely had a confused blend of the heretical and non-heretical meanings in his muddled brain.

    Croix needs some healthy fats in his diet before what's left of his brain shrivels up.
    Thanks for the reply.  Who was Croix?  I think he was before my time.
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Vance Refused to Kiss Prevost’s Ring
    « Reply #21 on: Yesterday at 07:36:35 AM »
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    • Quote from: Gray2023 on Yesterday at 07:10:47 AM
    Thanks for the reply.  Who was Croix?  I think he was before my time.

    He was and he was not before your time.  So, his original account name was "Croix de Fer" ... and he's been banned multiple times, but keeps showing up.  We usually figure out his new accounts because of his posting style (often using vulgar language for Jews and occasionally women), but when we suspect it's him, usually you can flush him out by getting him going about his "refined sugar" diet.  I don't care to get too into that particular controversy, but it's useful for exposing new accounts as "Croix" having returned.
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    Re: Vance Refused to Kiss Prevost’s Ring
    « Reply #22 on: Yesterday at 08:20:25 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on Yesterday at 07:36:35 AM
    He was and he was not before your time.  So, his original account name was "Croix de Fer" ... and he's been banned multiple times, but keeps showing up.  We usually figure out his new accounts because of his posting style (often using vulgar language for Jews and occasionally women), but when we suspect it's him, usually you can flush him out by getting him going about his "refined sugar" diet.  I don't care to get too into that particular controversy, but it's useful for exposing new accounts as "Croix" having returned.
    Is that white working class scapegoat guy him too?
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    Re: Vance Refused to Kiss Prevost’s Ring
    « Reply #23 on: Yesterday at 08:41:54 AM »
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    • Quote from: ByzCat3000 on Yesterday at 08:20:25 AM
    Is that white working class scapegoat guy him too?
    I wrote in another thread that I thought that certain members on the forum thought Everlast22 was an improved version of Croix about a year ago when he told us he got married.  But perhaps that is wrong. 
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    Offline Gray2023

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    Re: Vance Refused to Kiss Prevost’s Ring
    « Reply #24 on: Yesterday at 08:50:22 AM »
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    • Quote from: ByzCat3000 on Yesterday at 08:20:25 AM
    Is that white working class scapegoat guy him too?
    I went back and reviewed data and it does look like WWCS is the same type of person.  I wonder if he has multiple accounts, so that when one gets banned, he already has another he is using.  Maybe he has two accounts one where he acts like a normal person and one where he trolls. :confused:
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    Re: Vance Refused to Kiss Prevost’s Ring
    « Reply #25 on: Yesterday at 09:10:39 AM »
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    • Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on May 22, 2025, 06:19:11 AM
    "...Catholics should not kiss anyone’s ring because only Jesus Christ is King.
    Pope St. Pius X granted partial indulgence for kissing a bishop's ring. It also gives honor to Our Lord as the pope, Bishop of Rome, is His vicar  on earth. Obedience, respect, devotion...all the good virtues. Only to Traditional truths of course. We continue the fight against Modernist Rome, with charity  as + L showed. 
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    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Fishermans-Ring

    "...began in the Middle Ages as a gesture of respect for an ecclesiastic’s office and authority. During the reign of Pius X (1903–14), the act of kissing the ring of a cardinal or bishop granted the individual an indulgence. The custom began to change during the reign of Paul VI (1963–78), who reformed the system of indulgences and eliminated many formalities associated with his position, including gestures that conveyed subservience to the pope, such as kissing the pope’s ring, ..."

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    ...Since at least the Middle Ages it has been a tradition for Catholics meeting the pope to show their devotion by kissing the ring.[2]...
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    POPE Paul VI, a modernist, all men are equal Freemasonic erroneous principles,  downgraded this devotion.

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    Re: Vance Refused to Kiss Prevost’s Ring
    « Reply #26 on: Yesterday at 09:37:54 AM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on Yesterday at 08:41:54 AM
    I wrote in another thread that I thought that certain members on the forum thought Everlast22 was an improved version of Croix about a year ago when he told us he got married.  But perhaps that is wrong.
    lol. I'm my own guy, I promise. However, I did find my wife through this forum, (indirectly). 

    I feel the need to chime in as the rough around the edge guy. :laugh1:
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    Re: Vance Refused to Kiss Prevost’s Ring
    « Reply #27 on: Yesterday at 09:46:58 AM »
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    • Quote from: Everlast22 on Yesterday at 09:37:54 AM
    lol. I'm my own guy, I promise. However, I did find my wife through this forum, (indirectly).

    I feel the need to chime in as the rough around the edge guy. :laugh1:
    OK, thank you for clearing that up!  I think you probably know the thread to which I was referring.  Generally speaking, I find your posts highly opinionated but normally even-tempered which I appreciate.
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    Re: Vance Refused to Kiss Prevost’s Ring
    « Reply #28 on: Yesterday at 04:40:57 PM »
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    • Quote from: Everlast22 on Yesterday at 09:37:54 AM
    lol. I'm my own guy, I promise. However, I did find my wife through this forum, (indirectly).

    I feel the need to chime in as the rough around the edge guy. :laugh1:
    Oooo tell us more (if you can) :popcorn:
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    Re: Vance Refused to Kiss Prevost’s Ring
    « Reply #29 on: Yesterday at 10:43:43 PM »
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    • Quote from: AnthonyPadua on Yesterday at 04:40:57 PM
    Oooo tell us more (if you can) :popcorn:

    Hmmm.  Indirectly through this forum.  Let me think.  So some sworn lifelong bitter enemy of his wife told her that she knew this great guy on CathInfo with the screen name Everlast22, and that he'd be quite the catch.


    :laugh1:
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