Here is a misconception that I see on here a lot: the idea that the political state of Israel is of one mind. It is not of one mind any more than the United States is of one mind. You’ve got religious Jews, liberal Jews, and cultural Jews. You’ve also got a cynical group of elites, who are the criminal deep state like we have here. Bibi is not a member of this group. That is why they are trying to remove him. So when you say the Iran plot originated in Israel, which faction created the plot? I will tell you I do not think it did. But even if it did, talking about the location is not good enough. Hey, maybe +ABL was visiting the Holy Land in the 60’s and he came up with this plot to take out Iran. There it is. Plot started in Israel. By the archbishop. I knew it. See what I mean? Did the deep state in Israel come up with the plan? Did Bibi’s Conservative party come up with it? Could have just as easily been hatched in Washington by the conservatives who are of one mind with the conservatives in Israel. Or was it Israel’s deep state which is of one mind with Hillary and her ilk? No it wasn’t, because those israeli’s are helping Isis and they’re helping Iran. And when I speak of Iran, I’m talking about the Ayatollah and not the people. Oh but he says “death to Israel. Why would they help him?” Because they’re cynical and they also help terrorists kill American civilians here. The deep state in America is in bed with the deep state in Israel and in bed with the Ayatollah. Iran has to be liberated for real. Not like we “liberated” Iraq, by taking it over and letting Iran control it. No. It has to be liberated for real, from these maniacs who took over during Carter’s presidency. Why do we have to do it? Because Iran is the REAL center of middle eastern terrorism. It’s the financier, the staging point, and the safe house. And our deep state is involved with them. Iran HAS to be taken down. Not with “carpet bombs”, “shock and awe”, or any sort of murderous theatrics. No. With strategic hits on the targets identified by our military intelligence, until their regime agrees to stop working with the criminals in our government, or until we’ve killed their entire leadership and given their country a very raw deal. Either way, they must be dominated. Them, China, and North Korea are the trifecta. Kim is playing ball. Zi is being civil. Iran is not at all playing ball. They are continuing to work with Kerry, Peℓσѕι, Schumer, Comey, Hillary, Obama, etc. if we are going to clean house in our own country, we have to clean house in theirs. They are intimately involved with the criminals in our government. Drain the swamp includes draining theirs. After them, Israel. And then we move on to tying up loose ends in our own country. This is not something we can shy away from. It is our duty to fight these people until they are annihilated. The criminals I mean. We CANNOT allow Iran to continue on like they have. They HAVE attacked us. For years they’ve been attacking us. They’ve infiltrated us.
To be clear, I am not a fan of Israel and I do not support unfounded attacks on sovereign nations to be the world’s policemen, like we did in Iraq. And we should not function as Israel’s security force either. However, these attacks by Trump were NOT unfounded and they are in the interest of protecting US. Not the world.
That’ll do. Going to bed. Have a blessed Sunday everyone.
I suspect there are a fair number of folks on CathInfo who would be more or less favorable to your post here. They don't want others to think in a too one sided way towards the modern state of Israel. They don't seem to raise that concern about Iran. It's almost hard not to judge them too harshly out of hand considering all the pro Israel and anti Iran propaganda a good number of them have been subjected to for many years of their lives.
There are others on CathInfo including myself who take a very jaundiced view to near any of the official U.S. government narratives that are fed to us by the powers that be in America. The official lying narratives go way back. Here are just a few of the classics: 1) With no doubt whatsoever Spain blew up the U.S. battleship Maine, 2) FDR did not know that Japan was going to attack Pearl Harbor, 3) It was necessary to drop the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, 4) Tonkin Gulf Incident of 1964 was all true the way it was reported at the time to the Congress 5) Israel's 1967 attack on U.S.S. Liberty was a case of mistaken identity by Israel, 6) 9-11 was carried out by 19 hijackers, bla, bla, bla, 7) Iraq had WMD.
You state that "Iran HAS to be taken down" and just before that you tell us why: "Because Iran is the REAL center of middle eastern terrorism." You also give us your plan of action: "With strategic hits on the targets identified by our military intelligence, until their regime agrees to stop working with the criminals in our government, or until we’ve killed their entire leadership and given their country a very raw deal."
So, according to you and many others like John Bolton, Mike Pompeo, and the POTUS, " Iran is the REAL center of middle eastern terrorism." What exactly is terrorism, however, in the context of the largely unwelcome (and in Syria clearly illegal) occupation of U.S. forces in the Middle East? Are you familiar with the term asymmetric warfare? It is a type of warfare where generally one side is significantly more powerful militarily, thus forcing the weaker side to counteract their adversary in an unconventional way. In terms of trying to control the narrative to their advantage the U.S. propaganda machine does not speak in terms of unconventional warfare, but rather in terms of terrorism.
Why does Iran engage and support what the MSM invariably calls terrorism? The answer is rather simple. They consider it a part of what has been referred to as fourth generation warfare, a kind of warfare they consider quite legitimate in driving the Western invaders/occupiers out of their land. They know only too well that if they had the military power of the U.S., the U.S. would not be occupying the Middle East in the first place. Just as we would not allow any standing army or militia from Iran or Iraq to occupy Canada, much less the U.S. so too for them regarding U.S. in the Middle East.
If a foreign power was occupying America and killing all kinds of innocent Americans in the process would we TradCats and others not be trying to drive them out. No doubt we would be engaging in asymmetric warfare or at least I hope we would!
What would we think of a country that somehow placed sanctions on Canada or Mexico which directly resulted in the death of 500,000 or more children. Would we look the other way and say well at least the country doing the sanctioning is not carrying out terrorism in Canada or Mexico? Are you not aware of how many innocent civilians U.S. sanctions on Iraq caused? Right now our sanctions are working to devastate the economy of Iran. Again, how would we feel if Iran somehow could and did place devastating sanctions on our country?
Your plan to take down Iran is not only reckless, it is unrealistic, immoral.and extremely dangerous and costly. It also clearly violates the long held Catholic teaching on just war.
I give you the favor of the doubt in meaning well Soldier, but as you may well know, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.