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Offline Matto

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Re: US takes out Iranian military leader
« Reply #30 on: January 03, 2020, 02:56:27 PM »
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  • That tells me, logically, that SOMETHING HAS CHANGED.

    I just read an interesting article that argued that conservatives had become liberty minded patriots after the tea party movement was infiltrated and taken over and they did not trust the republicans or the media anymore (sorry, I didn't save the link, but the article was linked on the libertarian website lewrockwell.com yesterday or the day before). And Trump and the media hatred of him was an attempt by the "deep state" to get liberty-loving patriots to regain hope in the system so that they do not go crazy and rebel until it is too late and the deep state is ready to round us all up an put us into camps. They know that if the media hates on Trump constantly and Trump sometimes says good things, freedom-loving patriots will be more likely to trust him and think there is hope in the system. As Trump has fooled Matthew into thinking he is good when Trump would probably hate him and his family if he knew what he believed, so he has fooled many of us. Basically the hate is done on purpose because patriots hate the media so much that whoever the media hates the patriots are inclined to trust because of the media hate and the media knows this. (Kind of like Emmanuel Goldstein).
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    Re: US takes out Iranian military leader
    « Reply #31 on: January 03, 2020, 03:33:08 PM »
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  • If Trump is part of the Deep State, then apparently the Deep State is in a state of cινιℓ ωαr
    Nothing more true can be said.


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    Re: US takes out Iranian military leader
    « Reply #32 on: January 03, 2020, 03:42:23 PM »
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    Iran is a puppet of the deep state. 
    Yes, just like N Korea and Cuba.  All 3 were setup as “rogue” nations with nuclear bombs, to keep the world agitated and WW3 as a threat.  
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    I don’t trust Trump 100%.  Even if this is a game to keep conservatives involved, I’m happy at the additional time God has given us before WW3, persecutions, and the 3 days of darkness.  
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    Re: US takes out Iranian military leader
    « Reply #33 on: January 03, 2020, 04:05:59 PM »
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  • Here is a very good analysis by the Syrian representative for the UN Security Council. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2292&v=-Ou7cgMCW7o&feature=emb_logo 
    “The Roman pontiff is the true vicar of Christ, the head of the whole church and the father and teacher of all Christians; and to him was committed in blessed Peter, by our lord Jesus Christ, the full power of tending, ruling and governing the whole church.” Council of Florence, Session 6

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    Re: US takes out Iranian military leader
    « Reply #34 on: January 03, 2020, 04:48:09 PM »
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  • I don’t trust Trump 100%.  Even if this is a game to keep conservatives involved, I’m happy at the additional time God has given us before WW3, persecutions, and the 3 days of darkness.  
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    Use the time wisely, everyone!
    I don’t trust anyone 100%, who’s pandered to gαys, feminists, and Israel.  And helped to get a homegrown rapper out of answering for his bad behavior in a foreign country.  That said, I do believe he is good-willed.  Just stupid on a lot of issues, which most of us have family members with the same stupidity.


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    Re: US takes out Iranian military leader
    « Reply #35 on: January 03, 2020, 06:46:20 PM »
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  • Trump will pander to most anyone.  He’s a natural salesman and he also wants to get re-elected.  Now, if you want to be the biggest Trump fan (which I’m not) you’d say that the “end (re-election) justifies the means (pandering)”.  Outside of the catholic religion, that’s how most people think so I get the idea. 
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    I hope he gets re-elected simply for the added time before the political pendulum swings back to hardcore liberal and we get a crazed communist elected (which will eventually happen).  The scary thing is, most of Trump’s good changes have come from “executive order” so they can be changed as quickly as he changed them.  (0bama and he have started the precedent of “fiat” rule, which is not good at all...but that’s another degradation of our republic...which is certainly a whole other topic...).

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    Re: US takes out Iranian military leader
    « Reply #36 on: January 03, 2020, 09:17:40 PM »
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  • I agree with everything you’ve said

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    Re: US takes out Iranian military leader
    « Reply #37 on: January 03, 2020, 11:33:07 PM »
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  • You sound like an idiot.
    Friend, I was saying an ideal situation, not a realistic one.
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    Re: US takes out Iranian military leader
    « Reply #38 on: January 03, 2020, 11:35:52 PM »
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  • According to one of your earlier posts you would now be either 16 or 17 years old.  As far as age goes you would be able to enlist in the U.S. Military at the age of 17 with parental consent.  Please keep us all informed, especially if you get to Iran to fight all those violent Muslims.  In the meantime don't forget UNCLE SAM NEEDS YOU!

    Oh, and by the way, do you know who planned, executed, and covered up 9-11?  Just curious!
    I am 17. Yes, I know who planned executed and covered up 9/11: the Jєωs. 
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    Re: US takes out Iranian military leader
    « Reply #39 on: January 04, 2020, 12:03:24 AM »
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  • Friend, I was saying an ideal situation, not a realistic one.

    Oh really!  Well, please be so kind as to tell us why fighting Iran would be an ideal situation and how you (if you were in charge of things) would go about it.  Perhaps, you can take notes from Madeleine Albright?

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    Re: US takes out Iranian military leader
    « Reply #40 on: January 04, 2020, 12:13:29 AM »
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  • One viewer's comment at Unz.com regarding Iran's options:

    Option 1: Do nothing and hope that war is averted. Downside: this invites further attacks over the long-term.
    Option 2: Terrorist attack on US forces or an embassy somewhere. Downside: mass casualties makes Iran look bad and takes the blame off the US while giving them the excuse to escalate.
    Option 3: Attack Saudi oil facilities. Downside: this isn’t proportionate to what Trump did and would be construed as weakness.
    Option 4: αssαssιnαtҽ a US military officer in the Middle East. This is proportionate but could also lead to strengthening Trump’s political situation domestically.
    Option 5: Humiliate Trump personally without escalating militarily. This means assassinating someone close to him like his lawyer, Alan Dershowitz; a prominent GOP / Trump donor like Sheldon Adelson would also be a prime target. I don’t think the democrats will be demanding war should Iran take this path, which makes it an attractive option for revenge. It could humiliate Trump while making it difficult for him to retaliate. No one in the US wants to go to war over Sheldon Adelson.


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    Re: US takes out Iranian military leader
    « Reply #41 on: January 04, 2020, 01:34:31 AM »
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  • One viewer's comment at Unz.com regarding Iran's options:

    Option 1: Do nothing and hope that war is averted. Downside: this invites further attacks over the long-term.
    Option 2: Terrorist attack on US forces or an embassy somewhere. Downside: mass casualties makes Iran look bad and takes the blame off the US while giving them the excuse to escalate.
    Option 3: Attack Saudi oil facilities. Downside: this isn’t proportionate to what Trump did and would be construed as weakness.
    Option 4: αssαssιnαtҽ a US military officer in the Middle East. This is proportionate but could also lead to strengthening Trump’s political situation domestically.
    Option 5: Humiliate Trump personally without escalating militarily. This means assassinating someone close to him like his lawyer, Alan Dershowitz; a prominent GOP / Trump donor like Sheldon Adelson would also be a prime target. I don’t think the democrats will be demanding war should Iran take this path, which makes it an attractive option for revenge. It could humiliate Trump while making it difficult for him to retaliate. No one in the US wants to go to war over Sheldon Adelson.

    Different and wisest option may be the one found towards the end of this article found here: https://www.unz.com/tsaker/soleimani-murder-what-could-happen-next/

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    Re: US takes out Iranian military leader
    « Reply #42 on: January 04, 2020, 01:41:23 AM »
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  • Trump has no intention of going to war.  If Adelson or anyone else in his cabinet gets αssαssιnαtҽd, he’ll take out another key player like he did yesterday.  All legal and not a declaration of war according to AUMF.

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    Re: US takes out Iranian military leader
    « Reply #43 on: January 04, 2020, 01:42:31 AM »
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  • https://www.unz.com/estriker/the-line-in-the-sand/


    The Line in the Sand
    Eric Striker • January 3, 2020


    Most Americans did not know Qasem Soleimani until the Israelis found the perfect opportunity to have him αssαssιnαtҽd. They gave the Pentagon the orders and kindly handed Donald Trump all the credit while he ate his ice cream and watched it on TV.

    So far, Trump’s post-hoc rational for murdering the most important military official in Iran is that the protesters who want America out of Iraq after 17 years of occupation did some minor structural damage to the US embassy in Baghdad. The man who was elected in part specifically to keep us out of foreign wars tried to stifle the outcry by posting a low-res image of the American flag for Kanye West and Morton Klein to cyber-salute. So far, only paid minions are cheering this escalation.

    Some of the Democrats are tepidly complaining about a technicality, that the decision to kill Soleimani was made without congressional authorization, but they are merely reading a script written for our fantasy democracy. Most of the Democrats voted in favor of the $738 billion dollar military budget, as well as to strip a provision that would’ve specifically banned a unilateral war with Iran. They were in on it.

    Adam Schiff claims he has mixed feelings about the hit, but there will be no House hearings or impeachment proceedings over the president doing drone drive-bys in a supposedly sovereign nation against representatives of foreign countries we’re not at war with.

    The war with Iran is 40 years in the making, bipartisan and the decision is not up for referendum. This goes for all the weapons of mass destruction we gave to Saddam Hussein to use against Iran in the 80s, to Obama’s nuclear agreement which was really just a way to collect intelligence on Iranian infrastructure and capabilities, to the current campaign to provoke the Ayatollah into entering the classic war the Jєωs in Washington and their orange golem are ready to kamikaze-pilot our country into. The only thing Iran can to make it stop is cease to exist or fight. Israel and American Jєωry (95% which support Israel) will never tolerate a competent and ideologically principled regional rival.

    A Lion in the Winter
    General Soleimani was not some random military officer. This figure is considered a legend in his home and much of the Middle East, uniting both hardliners and reformers as a patriotic symbol. Even Soleimani’s most passionate haters in Tel Aviv and Washington grant that he is a military genius, a pius warrior-monk, and a man who has always led from the front.

    After 9/11, Soleimani offered intelligence and aid to the United States government, but was rejected. Soleimani’s guidance was instrumental in helping Hezbollah defeat Israel during the 33-days war in 2006, which required surgical precision due to the massive US troop buildup in the region that Israel thought would give it cover. In Iraq and Syria, Soleimani was the single most important figure in taking these two countries back from ISIS and Al-Qaeda. When ISIS, with all their American weapons, was on the brink of taking Baghdad, the General was shuttled in as a moralizing supervisor, uniting Shi’ite militias to embrace the fight of their lives. In Syria, Soleimani led non-sectarian battle groups of Muslims and Christians to drive the barbarians Israel and America had unleashed on the East Mediterranean state out.

    Soleimani’s life mission was familiar to those of us struggling against Zionist genocide against us in our own lands: to free his people of not just Israeli menacing, but international Jєωry as a whole. His military career saw the castration of the Saudis, the containment of Israeli expansion, the last-minute salvation of Christian and other religious minorities, and until today, a rising, final resistance to the consolidation of Jєωιѕн power over the whole world.

    The Final War
    At this point, hot war appears to be inevitable. Even Zionists who have spent their careers pushing for a war with Iran, like Max Boot and Richard Haas, know that America has crossed a line in the sand. At the very least, no American soldier will ever be safe in the Middle East again.

    Trump appears to be a fusion of FDR and Churchill. He’s FDR insofar that he was a wealthy plutocrat elected as a populist who promised not to involve America in another foreign war. He is Churchill in that he is eager to throw away the American empire over a testicle put in a vice by the Jєω. The impeachment hearings, kept in stasis and based on ridiculous pretenses, increasingly appear to be set as a challenge for Trump to do whatever they say or die in prison.

    The US shows every symptom of an empire on the brink of collapse: an irreconcilably divided and decaying citizenry, racial and cultural incoherence, a totally detached oligarchy, no overarching mission or narrative, and an over reliance on international mercenaries to fight its wars. By 2009, soldiers of fortune outnumbered the US military personnel 3-1 in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Add in the war-profiteers, wide open borders, collapsing infrastructure and history-making wealth inequality, and an entire generation of healthy young white men destroyed by drugs and ѕυιcιdєs, a despair engineered by Jєωs, who unlike Iranians, mock us as they do it. Let’s see tranquility on the home front survive skyrocketing food and gas prices.

    A war with Iran is our line in the sand. All white men must boycott the military, which is run by people who despise us more than any supposed international enemy ever will. The last 3 years of having our rights and civil liberties whittled away show that it is white Americans who will always be the US plutocracy’s first and last enemy. If you are currently serving, you can get honorably discharged by declaring yourself a worshipper of Asatru and anonymously emailing your superior officers pretending to be a deeply concerned member of Antifa. Even if open war doesn’t break out, the recent massive troop buildups in the Middle East guarantee you will be a target. Let Zion send its anarchist neo-liberal foot soldiers in your place!

    We must prepare our own populist anti-war protest movement to bring the war home. We must remain steadfast in the face of a coming era of political repression nobody has seen in generations.

    The people of Iran are not our enemy. They share the same abominable foe and deserve our solidarity. They must know that the citizens of America are ignorant of who rules them, and that decisions made using our flag are not made by us.

    In the name of the existence of our people and the future of our children, and even broader in the name of humanity, we must ensure that this will be Judah’s last war.

    Only then can we all be free.

    Qasem Soleimani

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    Re: US takes out Iranian military leader
    « Reply #44 on: January 04, 2020, 01:58:09 AM »
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  • Trump has no intention of going to war.  If Adelson or anyone else in his cabinet gets αssαssιnαtҽd, he’ll take out another key player like he did yesterday.  All legal and not a declaration of war according to AUMF.

    Soldier's reference to AUMF is rather telling!  So just what is the AUMF? The Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF), Pub. L. 107-40, codified at 115 Stat. 224 and passed as S.J.Res. 23 by the United States Congress on September 14, 2001, authorizes the use of United States Armed Forces against those responsible for the attacks on September 11, 2001 and any "associated forces".