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Offline klasG4e

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Re: US takes out Iranian military leader
« Reply #105 on: January 08, 2020, 04:07:55 AM »
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  • Please accept my apology for my unkind words.  This is a reminder to me of why I stay off of the internet.  It brings out the worst in me, and I say things unbecoming of a christian.  I was very sick when I woke up this morning.  Just recovering from a bad flu, and I’ve got a massive toothache.  I was not in my right mind and regretted my nastiness all day.  After looking back over the conversation, you are logically correct.  Based on what I said, it is not a far leap to presume that I hold Iran partially responsible for 911.  I don’t, and didn’t mean for my statement to be taken that way.  However, using the broad term “these deep states”, lumps them all in as a big guilty party.  They are part of the group in today’s version of “these deep states”, but to my knowledge they were not in 2001.  At that time, it would have been ourselves, Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the UK.
    I will PM you.


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    Re: US takes out Iranian military leader
    « Reply #106 on: January 09, 2020, 05:06:17 PM »
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  • Is US attempting to play an Israeli strategy out against Iran?


    The first possible strategy that is being carried out on the part of the United States, is one in which they seek to pursue a devastating regional war, in which they will attempt regime change in Iran. This will become clear if Trump chooses to respond with harsh airstrikes against Iranian territory.
    The second possible strategy is one which sees its origins in Israel. This is a strategy which aims to drive a rift between Iran and its regional allies. 



    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: US takes out Iranian military leader
    « Reply #107 on: January 09, 2020, 06:47:08 PM »
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    Re: US takes out Iranian military leader
    « Reply #108 on: January 09, 2020, 11:19:00 PM »
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  • Was Soleimani drawn into an ambush by the U.S. through diplomatic channels?
    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/01/05/breaking-confirmed-solemeini-killed-on-diplomatic-mission-to-iraq-to-receive-trump-pompeo-missive/
    Unfortunately, but not so unsurprisingly, that doesn't seem to even cross the radar screen for a lot of bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran folks, and if it does it's more or less relegated to non-issue (i.e., so what) status.

    Offline Quo vadis Domine

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    Re: US takes out Iranian military leader
    « Reply #109 on: January 15, 2020, 07:15:54 PM »
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  • Disclaimer: I am not a fan of Snopes and I find much of there “reporting” to be leftist propaganda.
    Snopes seems to have debunked this Simpson/Trump stuff enough for my satisfaction: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/simpsons-predict-trump/
    their not there. 🧐
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?


    Offline alaric

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    Re: US takes out Iranian military leader
    « Reply #110 on: January 18, 2020, 06:57:09 AM »
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  • Former CIA officer tells the Ron Paul Institute in an interview that Soleimani posed "no threat" to the U.S.

    US leaders lied about Gen. Soleimani: Former CIA officer

    Former CIA officer Phil Giraldi told RonPaul Institute in an interview on Monday that Soleimani posed no threat of any kind to the US, and whatever was claimed about him were lies.
    “The reality is here that they been lying to us right from the beginning …There was no imminent threat of any kind.”
    Giraldi described Trump's authorization of the assassination of Gen. Soleimani as a "horrific" crime, violating laws and morals.
    “The United States has done something horrific,” he said, further explaining, “We have αssαssιnαtҽd an official of a foreign government … We did this callously with fore-thought, and in violation of international law and basic morality.”



    Offline alaric

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    Re: US takes out Iranian military leader
    « Reply #111 on: January 18, 2020, 07:17:27 AM »
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  • So. Soleimani was now murdered for saying "bad things" about America? What kind of "bad things" does he mean?

    Maybe like telling the truth? No now you're allowed to arbitrarily just murder leaders and officials of foreign govts because they say things about this country our president disagrees with? What kind of a rich, spoiled brat and sociopath of a president do we really have that goes around killing people with drones and risks major wars because some of their leaders say "bad things" about us?


    Oh, btw what the hell happened to Soleimani somehow just happening to be an "imminent threat" all of the sudden conveniently told to us after this Jєω tool decided to αssαssιnαtҽ him?

    Anyway, I wish the Donald would get his story straight. ::)


    Ok, I'll do it for him. Trump killed this Iranian who defeated the American/Israeli creation and ally ISIS because  Israel and their AIPAC operatives in America told him too....end of story.

    But this story  is far from over.




    Trump once again shifts justification for assassinating General Soleimani




    President Donald Trump has again shifted his justification for assassinating General Qassem Soleimani, claiming the prominent anti-terror commander was "saying bad things about our country."
    Trump, speaking at a Republican fundraising event on Friday at his Mar-a-Lago property in Florida, did not mention the "imminent threat" that he previously claimed led to his decision to order Gen. Soleimani’s assassination.
    The latest remarks further contradict the Trump administration's publicly stated justification for ordering the US drone strike, which has drawn international outcry. 
    The "imminent threat" justification has been used by US officials in the aftermath of the assassination, but they have they failed to provide any evidence for their claim.
    NBC News reported on Monday that Trump had authorized the US military to αssαssιnαtҽ Gen. Soleimani seven months ago, contradicting his "imminent threat" justification.


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    Re: US takes out Iranian military leader
    « Reply #112 on: January 18, 2020, 07:33:16 AM »
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  • There’s no such thing as an “Ex-“CIA officer.  Any more than there is a such thing as an ex-gambino crime family member.  You don’t retire from the CIA.  You remain an asset until death.  So this article is more CIA propaganda.  Being an ex-CIA officer doesn’t bolster your credibility.  It diminishes it.  The CIA gave Amazon $600million in 2016 for an unknown contract.  Jeff Bezos turned around and purchased the Washington Post for $350million.  The Post immediately started pumping out fake news stories about Trump. They were the progenitor of 95% of the fake stories about Trump.  The rest of the media followed along and covered the same stories, but the Post was almost always the first to publish the fake news stories.  Bottom line, don’t trust what CIA officers tell you.  Not that it’s ALWAYS untrue.  Just that they clearly are running a massive propaganda machine with the intention of lying, misleading, and manipulating the minds if the public, in order to get them in line with their hidden agenda, which is important enough to them to spend hundreds of millions of dollars in one year.


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    Re: US takes out Iranian military leader
    « Reply #113 on: January 18, 2020, 07:34:59 AM »
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  • Social behemoths like Twitter and Instagram now censoring and removing critical posts about American phony wars in the Mideast and the killing of Soleimani. We know they can't stand the truth being said about anything, but since when are THEY and Donald Trump on the same page? Since when does the supposedly "fake media" and social media giants agree on anything since they are on a nonstop attack of the president's agenda? 



    Oh right, when it's in the bests interests of Israel and the Jєωs then all bets are off and the propaganda wing of this country are all of the sudden strange bedfellows. One thing is for certain, speak out or question anything about Israel or the Jєωs and you will be quickly SILENCED.........and it matters not what side of the political aisle you are on.




    Wake up and realize you have no freedom of speech in a Jєωιѕн tyranny.


    After US killing of Iran’s Soleimani, narrative control on social media is getting worse

    Twitter has been on a narrative-control rampage, removing or censoring legitimate accounts that are critical of US-led wars, propaganda and lies. Facebook and Instagram have increased their Big Brother policing, too.
    Attempts by American-based social media behemoths to silence or censor voices critical of the establishment-approved narrative is nothing new, but this trend seems to have intensified lately. 
    Just in the past several days, following the criminal US assassination of Iranian General Qassem Soleimani, Instagram and Facebook have been removing posts supportive of Soleimani, even profile photos honouring the general, allegedly to comply with US sanctions, a truly absurd explanation for the narrative control.

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/478241-narrative-control-social-media-soleimani-twitter/

    Offline alaric

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    Re: US takes out Iranian military leader
    « Reply #114 on: January 18, 2020, 07:51:24 AM »
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  • Quote
    .  Bottom line, don’t trust what CIA officers tell you.  Not that it’s ALWAYS untrue.
    So these are the same people telling us Soleimani was an "imminent threat" to the U.S. and attacking our embassy.

    And we're supposed to buy into that, but one of their own tells us it's total bs. So which is it? Who's lying?

    How bout the people who so far have given us no credible evidence to suggest Soleimani was even remotley an "imminent threat" and had to be murdered? And we're supposed to believe them but this ex-CIA operative is lying against people who can't even prove what they're propagating? Whom are you really going to trust on this issue?

    My money is on the ex-CIA guy. You even said it's not always untrue.

    You know, maybe sometimes people have seen so much bs they just don't care anymore. Maybe some people have had enough and are willing to take the consequences of telling things the way it is. The Church is full of martyrs and saints who made those choices and were part of regimes and empires who made the ultimate sacrifice in presenting the TRUTH.


    Maybe you shouldn't just go so far to pidgin-hole every single CIA member or ex-member as having no scruples or credibility, they're are plenty of "ex-mafia" men who put their a** on the line to expose the system, yea many were threatened and face life in jail or being whacked, but not all. So you have to remember, these guys are human like everyone else. Not everyone is a bold-faced liar because they worked in the top intelligence of this country. Some actually have morals and a love of the truth.

    Offline Quo vadis Domine

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    Re: US takes out Iranian military leader
    « Reply #115 on: January 18, 2020, 08:15:55 AM »
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  • I believe almost nothing I read that portrays President Trump in a negative light. 90+% of the news coverage he receives depicts him as the devil incarnate. Ask yourself, if Trump was part of the great conspiracy, what would be the purpose of bolstering the “conservative cause”, when they had us basically hogtied and hopeless at the end of the Obama regime? If Hillary got in, the show would’ve been over, period, end of story. Trump gave us hope, a voice, and the possibility to turn this mess around. There wasn’t any need for the conspirators to pull such a charade. Unless this is the greatest, most sophisticated, and biggest con job in the history of the world, bar none, he is the real deal and frankly, we better pray that that’s the case.
      
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    Re: US takes out Iranian military leader
    « Reply #116 on: January 28, 2020, 07:51:46 PM »
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  • Fact or fiction?
     
    Murderer of Soleimani Killed in US Plane Downing in Afghanistan; Report
    By IFP Editorial Staff
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    Russian intelligence sources have confirmed that Michael D’ Andrea, the head of US intelligence operations against Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan, has been killed in Taliban’s shoot-down of a US military plane in Ghazni.
    January 28, 2020 "Information Clearing House" -  The downed plane was the mobile CIA command for Michael D’ Andrea, and now, America’s most advanced spy platform and mobile command centre with all equipment and docuмents are in Taliban’s hands.
    De Andrea, who was responsible for the assassination of Iran’s top commander Lieutenant General Qassem Soleimani, was apparently among the officers on board the plane, the Veterans Today website reports, quoting Russian intelligence sources.
    Also known as Ayatollah Mike, D’Andrea is the most prominent figure of the CIA intelligence in the region.
    Since 2017, D’ Andrea has run the CIA’s fαℓѕє fℓαg and assassination programs in the Middle East, allegedly responsible not only for the murder of General Soleimani but the killing of 300 Iraqi demonstrators as well.
    The US military has acknowledged the loss of a Bombardier/Northrop Grumman E-11A plane in central Afghanistan. They added that they have not found any “indication” that the aircraft was downed.
    The aircraft crashed in Ghazni city area on Monday. An investigation into the incident is underway and the military will provide further information when its available, a spokesman for the US force in Afghanistan, Col. Sonny Leggett has tweeted.
    The official also dismissed Taliban claims that another aircraft had crashed in the country, describing them as “false.” Earlier in the day, the Taliban said that a military helicopter went down in the east of the country shortly after the plane crash. The militant group did not provide any details of the alleged incident, nor did they specify to whom the helicopter belonged.
    There has been some confusion as to whether Taliban militants have claimed responsibility for the plane crash. Their initial statement in Pushtu only stated that the plane had gone down.
    The Bombardier/Northrop Grumman E-11A is a surveillance and communications plane. Footage from the scene showing the wreckage has been circulating on social media, and photos that appear to show a plane with the same serial number have been unearthed.
    Videos showed the shell of the plane ablaze on the ground. It was largely destroyed in the fire with only its tail section surviving the crash.
    Journalists have made it to the scene of a plane crash in Afghanistan, snapping pictures of the wreckage and even some docuмents. It comes as the US Air Force’s chief of staff all but confirmed the loss of the military plane.
    Footage from the scene shows that the aircraft burned upon the impact, with only its tail section remaining largely intact.
    This article was published by "IFP" -


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    Re: US takes out Iranian military leader
    « Reply #117 on: February 01, 2020, 06:02:12 AM »
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  • Boy what a coincidence. Just like those Navy Seals years ago who were killed in that chopper shortly after they supposedly took Bin Laden out. ::)