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Unz • more strong-smelling substances
« on: November 23, 2022, 09:10:10 AM »
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  • The staggering Romanof "ledger" article https://www.unz.com/lromanoff/the-richest-man-in-the-world/ was derided by Ron Unz himself in the comment section.  There are indeed some mistakes in the article, but none that warrant "abandoning it."


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    This was hardly the only very surprising assertion I encountered near the beginning of this extremely long article. So although the subject matter seemed quite interesting, I quickly abandoned reading it.
    https://www.unz.com/lromanoff/the-richest-man-in-the-world/#comment-5671224


    Besides the snippets on Musk that I posted in another thread, some quasi-interesting snippets about Unz himself have been published. Might as well archive that background here.


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    This article by Romanoff is breathtaking in its display of Jєωιѕн financial profligacy and control. I’m wondering if it’s part of an elaborate psyop that in the guise of criticism really is meant to overwhelm us with the enormity of Jєωιѕн power and make us surrender our sense of freedom and agency. I’m increasingly suspecting that this is the true purpose of TUR. To put the final nail in the coffin of Gentile autonomy and force us to crawl in complete self-abnegation to our Jєωιѕн masters.

    Ron Unz made his fortune working for a Jєωιѕн hedge fund on Wall Street. Who’s to say he’s not working for the same people now?

    Unz himself:



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    @Anon

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    I’m wondering if it’s part of an elaborate psyop that in the guise of criticism really is meant to overwhelm us with the enormity of Jєωιѕн power and make us surrender our sense of freedom and agency. I’m increasingly suspecting that this is the true purpose of TUR. To put the final nail in the coffin of Gentile autonomy and force us to crawl in complete self-abnegation to our Jєωιѕн masters.
    Ron Unz made his fortune working for a Jєωιѕн hedge fund on Wall Street. Who’s to say he’s not working for the same people now?
    What odd assertions. I’ve never worked at a hedge fund in my entire life and my personal background was heavily covered in numerous media profiles published ten or twenty years ago when I much more politically prominent, all linked on this website:
    https://www.unz.com/masthead/#who-is-ron-unz
    I wonder if you might be that mentally-ill Jєωιѕн guy who hangs around this website because you’ve been banned everywhere else.

    his interlocutor:



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    What odd assertions. I’ve never worked at a hedge fund in my entire life and my personal background was heavily covered in numerous media profiles published ten or twenty years ago when I much more politically prominent, all linked on this website:
    https://www.unz.com/masthead/#who-is-ron-unz
    Hmm. Wall Street Analytics didn’t work with Hedge Funds? Maybe it’s just a semantic ploy. The point is you were heavily involved with Wall Street, which automatically means Jєωιѕн Banksters. See Romanoff’s latest: https://www.unz.com/lromanoff/the-richest-man-in-the-world/

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    https://www.laweekly.com/being-ron-unz/
    Unz‘s business career has been reported, typically, as a kind of slicked rail: a summer at First Boston, followed swiftly by the founding of a spectacularly successful software company, steady and secure growth of the company and then a remarkably lucrative payoff launching his political career. But the real story reveals a far more turbulent trajectory and also demonstrates Unz’s propensity for high-stakes gambling.
    Unz was actually fired that first summer from First Boston. He‘d worked solo on a computer program to automate the analysis of complex mortgage securities. ”It was really my best invention,“ Unz says now. ”But I did it secretly. It caused a lot of friction, because part of the group worked in the program that I’d made obsolete. And since I‘d been the one who had done it against orders, they said, ’We think you should resign.‘“
    Only after being forced out of his job did he go off on his own to develop the idea further and produce new software programs useful to large banks and brokerage firms that trade in bonds. He founded a company that fall with a former First Boston colleague. ”I really didn’t like working in a big organization,“ Unz says. ”Instead of doing what is the most efficient thing, or the most productive thing, or the most successful thing, you have to go through all these channels. I work much more effectively independently, with a broader mandate.“
    What followed, as he and his partner went to work on the new company, were 15-hour workdays, with his credit cards maxed out and his future on the line. His friend Larry Penn remembers Unz ”working so hard on his programs for a stretch of a few months that he never left his neighborhood.“
    Within a year, Unz had an acrimonious falling-out with his partner. Unz was thrown back on a total reliance upon himself. He became Wall Street Analytics, a corporation of one. All along the way, Unz flogged himself with the idea of an eventual reward — the resources to get involved in politics. ”If somebody had told me I‘d spend the rest of my life in software, I’d have just hanged myself,“ he says. Sleepless nights and punishing days of writing code finally paid off. Sales of his software programs boomed in the late 1980s, and Unz was suddenly flush.
    I’ve come to believe that TUR is a very insidious psyop. In the guise of critiquing Jєωιѕн Power, its true purpose is to mesmerize the readers with the overwhelming nature of Jєωιѕн full spectrum dominance over finance, politics, media, military, medicine, law, pharmaceuticals, sports and gambling. Like porn, TUR purports to pull up the skirts and reveal the absolute brutality of Jєωιѕн Power. But the real effect is to capture our interest and neutralize our own will to power, just as porn prevents people from forming genuine relationships and actually enjoying sex. Porn turns us into passive consumers of others’ antics. And that’s what TUR does: it makes us gape and ogle at the pervasiveness of Jєωιѕн Power and slowly but surely to despair of our own future.
    It’s easy to see through the veils here, which make an Arabian Nights harem look positively unclad. Just as RU constantly embellishes his own achievements as a cultural iconoclast and invites us to put him on a pedestal, so too does he much more subtly serve the interests of his Jєωιѕн Power Paymasters and handlers by overwhelming us with their Presence. (Why do you think he invites us to create a “Handle” if not as an ironic echo of his own role as a patsy of Jєωιѕн Power handlers?)
    I’ve observed an increasing number of commenters who post here as Anon, and I think this indicates that people are wise to Mr Unz and no longer trust him. We see he’s running a scam like a Jєωιѕн PT Barnum, who surveys his vast readership and looks at us as suckers born every minute to manipulate in service of Jєωιѕн Power.
    I just can’t understand why Mr Giraldi is involved in this massive deception and psyop, but perhaps his background in the CIA makes such subterfuge irrestistable. Or maybe he too is Jєωιѕн. It’s said that Geraldo Rivera is Jєωιѕн so maybe also is Philip Geraldi.
    If Unz were sincere, he would post Brother Nathaniel videos as the lead in to his webpage. Also he never replied to this very reasonable suggestion, again suggestive of his utter insincerity and duplicity: https://www.unz.com/runz/elon-musk-kanye-west-and-much-riskier-targets/#comment-5669443
    Thanks: Al Liguori

    Unz at another commenter:



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    How do you choose what to feature at the UR, as Editor-in-Chief & Publisher, if you don’t read the offerings the UR decides to offer? Are you in fact implying that your National Security Editor, Philip Giraldi, is responsible for choosing and vetting what articles to feature at the UR?…
    I was talking about Unz being slippery as to his true beliefs, and therefore his true intentions.
    I suppose I should respond to your ignorant remarks, at least for the benefit of others. You seem to have a very strange view of my role on this website, apparently assuming that I (or someone else) personally “vet” all of the articles that we publish.
    Here are a few sentences from the article I published on Monday:

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    So perhaps this makes us the rightful heir to the mantle of “the free speech wing of the free speech party”…I personally find a great deal of the material we publish both distasteful and wrong-headed…our primary role has been to serve as a content-distribution channel and commenting platform.
    https://www.unz.com/runz/elon-musk-kanye-west-and-much-riskier-targets/
    And here’s the first Q&A from our FAQ section:

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    Does The Unz Review stand behind all the controversial claims made in the articles it publishes?
    Absolutely not! In any event, that would be a logical impossibility, since so many of the writers and their arguments directly contradict one another.
    https://www.unz.com/masthead/#frequently-asked-questions-faq
    Your own long comments have totaled around 300,000 words over just the last year or so, and although often extremely emotional rarely contain any real substance, with many of them merely consisting of anti-vaxxing rants.
    Given your obvious lack of analytical ability, you apparently wish to be able accept as true and accurate everything published on this website, and are now very disturbed to discover that I do not make that claim. So perhaps you really would be happier permanently departing.
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    "Wild Man: back at Unz:


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    “So perhaps you really would be happier permanently departing. ”
    No I don’t think so (I think you mean that would make you happier).

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    “Your own long comments have totaled around 300,000 words over just the last year or so, and although often extremely emotional rarely contain any real substance, with many of them merely consisting of anti-vaxxing rants.”
    For crissakes, it is you that is over the top with your very very stupid and idiotic anti-vaxxer rhetoric, and of course it is you that is overly emotional that way. The proof is in the pudding. You have insinuated you passed on the bo0osters. Why? Hesitant on that front are you? How else to see it? You defined ‘anti-vaxxer’ as ‘covid gene-therapy hesitant’, and now you are that. As such, you are a massive hypocrite on that front. I have brought more substance to the overall covid phenomenon topic, than you, by a long shot. Maybe you are too stupid to understand. See Ron, two can play your silly game, …. you call me stupid for my insights, … and I will call you stupid for your idiotic hypocritical deflections, … even though we both know the other party really isn’t stupid at all, …. but let’s judge the actual content of your offerings vs. mine instead of just calling each other names …… my offerings have been much more sophisticated than yours, because where I have called your content stupid, .. it was, … yet you barely ever engaged with any of that criticism, as my criticism occurred on occasion, … and then on the other hand, each time you choose to call me stupid, you end up massively failing at making your point (i.e. – your stupid-calling is just name-calling, and as such, even more evidence that your content often offers massive stupidity). The thing is, … we all know you are not stupid Ron, … so what gives? Why do you continue to say stupid things, as such, showing up that you can’t properly engage with valid criticism?

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    “Given your obvious lack of analytical ability, you apparently wish to be able accept as true and accurate everything published on this website, and are now very disturbed to discover that I do not make that claim.”
    Who has a track record of superior analytical ability and who hasn’t? Who saw through 9/11 day-0f? That would be me and definitely not you. Who, among your commentariat, almost immediately pointed out to you, that your covid origins hypothesis is off, because you refuse to acknowledge the manifold links between sars-cov-2 lab-bio-engineering, and covid-gene-therapy-bio-engineering (which you still won’t acknowledge, for non-genuine reasons …. i.e. – you claim that it is beyond your capability of understanding). It appears that my analytical ability is light-years ahead of yours (it does appear that way, however, if I actually believed that you were actually a dud like that, I would then denounce the UR as worthless and not worthy of my participation, … instead there is something else going on here, and I want to know what that something is).
    Look, … I never said that I was under the impression that you claim that everything published on this website is true and accurate. You need to take that back buddy. Apologize for putting words in my mouth (I’m not letting it go this time, because the repetitive behavior on your part, around this type of thing, …. responding to a different criticism than the one levied, …. that is getting to be really really old, …. somebody here needs to give you a tune-up about how to do the dialectic, …. i.e. – not like you have carried on, ……. with your obfuscations/deflections/hypocritical arguments etc. …. and I’m quite sure you exactly know what I mean).
    Should I even bother restating, what in fact I did say, criticism-wise? Because the ongoing pattern with you is, you will just ignore, that you are in no way, within this comment of yours, doing anything worthwhile, to address my criticism of the UR’s pretensions, that it can pretend to publish articles for which the publisher (or his designatee) does not know the contents thereof. What the hell is that? Who does that? Is that even publishing? Let’s suppose for the moment, that indeed, Ron Unz, and the UR does no vetting whatsoever, with respect to selecting articles to publish, and actually no selecting either. Your continued claims that you don’t read, is tantamount to that, if indeed you have not farmed out the vetting to Philip or someone else. In that eventuality, … you don’t even have a way to choose topics. But the UR is topical! Ergo: You are lying.

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    “Here are a few sentences from the article I published on Monday:”
    Why are you providing that to me (again), after I already regurgitated that precise passage for you, (to help make my point) in another similar comment today, in another thread?:
    https://www.unz.com/runz/elon-musk-kanye-west-and-much-riskier-targets/#comment-5671492
    Of course I am aware what you said, because I quoted it for crissakes. So, you bring up that passage again (for the 3rd time, … first in the article, second it was brought up by me in the comment link provided above which you did respond to, and now you are bringing it up again). Why? Especially why, since you continue to refuse to answer the actual query, …. that query being, …. is it possible to run a topical webzine, featuring a whole host of authors, without the publisher (or the publisher’s designatee) reading and then choosing content? If you think the answer to that is ‘yes’ (what you seem to be claiming), then how in heaven’s name does the webzine even remain topical?

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    “I suppose I should respond to your ignorant remarks, at least for the benefit of others. You seem to have a very strange view of my role on this website, apparently assuming that I (or someone else) personally “vet” all of the articles that we publish.”
    Yes, I assume that you (or someone else) personally vets (reading and choosing) authors, and then articles of these authors, for this webzine (for instance, you don’t carry all of Anglin’s articles, so you are, or someone else for you, is choosing – no?)
    This latest disrespectful gambit of yours, really takes the cake. I certainly wouldn’t take this behavior from an IRL colleague (or anyone IRL). Again… you owe me and apology on many fronts. Let’s see if you are capable of redeeming yourself. You know what I want – an apology for lying. Let’s see what happens.
    Agree: Al Liguori
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    Piling on with Wild Man:



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    While I appreciate his forum [“limited hangout,” “honeypot”?] and archived books, Ron does have some glaring faults: incessant self-adulation, a mistaken delusion that his narrow expertise on software makes him a savant in all matters scientific and medical, and a rabbinical penchant for pretending that his hysterical insults (including his psychological projections) pass for evidence. A tiff of my own with Ron on COVID and racial polymorphisms:

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    Notwithstanding Ron’s self-vaunted scientific genius, my evidence prompted him to walk back his false (“absolutely nothing”, “never said”) and unsupported claims.
    Me responding:

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    You have made expansive claims (“absolutely nothing”, “never said”) only to walk them back (“a couple of research papers”, “did lightly speculate”) when called out on your hysterical rhetoric that you pass off as science.…You [Ron] have cited zero verifiable references for your “5,000%” factoid (as if the world really knows the actual Chinese death toll).
    to Ron’s claim:

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    This exchange began when you foolishly argued that Covid was designed to be especially deadly to Asians and relatively harmless to whites.
    The full post: https://www.unz.com/runz/9000-retweets-and-800000-video-views/#comment-5433574

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    Gee, thanks for your bio. I was interested only whether or not that quote was yours. It wasn’t yours. OK. Thanks for deigning to answer, but what made you think I needed or wanted your bio? Your sense of self-importance seems boundless.
    “This exchange began when you foolishly argued that Covid was designed to be especially deadly to Asians and relatively harmless to whites.”
    No. The exchange began when you were annoyed by my post of PNAC’s explicit “specific genotypes” agenda: https://archive.org/details/RebuildingAmericasDefenses/page/n71/mode/2up/search/specific+genotypes
    The PNAC ethnic bioweapon agenda is a verifiable fact that bothered you. Since your pique, you have directed 5 comments consisting of 1,205 words (yeah, I too have word count capability) of which zero words address specific methodological or interpretive criticisms of the 4 representative peer-reviewed articles about COVID’s racial polymorphisms cited by me:
    Zhao Y., Zhao Z., Wang Y., Zhou Y., Ma Y., Zuo W. Single-cell RNA expression profiling of ACE2, the receptor of SARS-CoV-2. Am J Respir Crit Care Med. 2020;202:756–759.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmid/32663409/
    Choudhary S, Sreenivasulu K, Mitra P, Misra S, Sharma P. Role of genetic variants and gene expression in the susceptibility and severity of COVID-19. Ann Lab Med. 2021; 41(2): 129- 138. https://doi.org/10.3343/alm.2021.41.2.129
    Suryamohan, K., Diwanji, D., Stawiski, E.W. et al. Human ACE2 receptor polymorphisms and altered susceptibility to SARS-CoV-2. Commun Biol 4, 475 (2021). https://doi.org/10.1038/s42003-021-02030-3
    Bulk and single-cell transcriptomics identify tobacco-use disparity in lung gene expression of ACE2, the receptor of 2019-nCov
    Guoshuai Cai
    medRxiv 2020.02.05.20020107; doi: https://doi.org/10.1101/2020.02.05.20020107
    You have cited zero verifiable references for your “5,000%” factoid (as if the world really knows the actual Chinese death toll). The emissions from crematoria just might give a real scientist pause:

    You have made expansive claims (“absolutely nothing”, “never said”) only to walk them back (“a couple of research papers”, “did lightly speculate”) when called out on your hysterical rhetoric that you pass off as science.
    So much for your claim of special scientific expertise. So, unless you have more to offer than looping your inflated self-image or have more amusing insults…
    at which point Ron dropped the argument, never providing any scientific support for his ridiculous “5,000%” nonsense. Opposing his “scientific” claims, I linked several peer-reviewed studies and provided the image of Wuhan crematoria emissions that you see above.



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    Re: Unz • more strong-smelling substances
    « Reply #1 on: November 23, 2022, 09:20:48 AM »
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  • Too many nested quotes imbedded within other quotes, perhaps this format will be more clear.

    Notwithstanding Ron's self-vaunted scientific genius, my evidence prompted him to walk back his false (“absolutely nothing”, “never said”) and unsupported claims.

    Me responding:

    You have made expansive claims (“absolutely nothing”, “never said”) only to walk them back (“a couple of research papers”, “did lightly speculate”) when called out on your hysterical rhetoric that you pass off as science.…You
    [Ron] have cited zero verifiable references for your “5,000%” factoid (as if the world really knows the actual Chinese death toll).

    to Ron's claim:

    This exchange began when you foolishly argued that Covid was designed to be especially deadly to Asians and relatively harmless to whites.


    The full post: https://www.unz.com/runz/9000-retweets-and-800000-video-views/#comment-5433574

    Gee, thanks for your bio. I was interested only whether or not that quote was yours. It wasn’t yours. OK. Thanks for deigning to answer, but what made you think I needed or wanted your bio? Your sense of self-importance seems boundless.

    "This exchange began when you foolishly argued that Covid was designed to be especially deadly to Asians and relatively harmless to whites."

    No. The exchange began when you were annoyed by my post of PNAC’s explicit “specific genotypes” agenda: https://archive.org/details/RebuildingAmericasDefenses/page/n71/mode/2up/search/specific+genotypes

    The PNAC ethnic bioweapon agenda is a verifiable fact that bothered you. Since your pique, you have directed 5 comments consisting of 1,205 words (yeah, I too have word count capability) of which zero words address specific methodological or interpretive criticisms of the 4 representative peer-reviewed articles about COVID’s racial polymorphisms cited by me:

    Zhao Y., Zhao Z., Wang Y., Zhou Y., Ma Y., Zuo W. Single-cell RNA expression profiling of ACE2, the receptor of SARS-CoV-2. Am J Respir Crit Care Med. 2020;202:756–759.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmid/32663409/

    Choudhary S, Sreenivasulu K, Mitra P, Misra S, Sharma P. Role of genetic variants and gene expression in the susceptibility and severity of COVID-19. Ann Lab Med. 2021; 41(2): 129- 138. https://doi.org/10.3343/alm.2021.41.2.129

    Suryamohan, K., Diwanji, D., Stawiski, E.W. et al. Human ACE2 receptor polymorphisms and altered susceptibility to SARS-CoV-2. Commun Biol 4, 475 (2021). https://doi.org/10.1038/s42003-021-02030-3

    Bulk and single-cell transcriptomics identify tobacco-use disparity in lung gene expression of ACE2, the receptor of 2019-nCov
    Guoshuai Cai
    medRxiv 2020.02.05.20020107; doi: https://doi.org/10.1101/2020.02.05.20020107

    You have cited zero verifiable references for your “5,000%” factoid (as if the world really knows the actual Chinese death toll). The emissions from crematoria just might give a real scientist pause:


    https://www.shadolsonshow.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/wuhan-sulfur-dioxide-660x400@2x.jpg

    You have made expansive claims (“absolutely nothing”, “never said”) only to walk them back (“a couple of research papers”, “did lightly speculate”) when called out on your hysterical rhetoric that you pass off as science.

    So much for your claim of special scientific expertise. So, unless you have more to offer than looping your inflated self-image or have more amusing insults…
    at which point Ron dropped the argument, never providing any scientific support for his ridiculous "5,000%" nonsense. Opposing his "scientific" claims, I linked several peer-reviewed studies and provided the image of Wuhan crematoria emissions that you see above.