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Offline Joseantoniano

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Two Questions on Hitler
« on: July 10, 2019, 06:28:15 PM »
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    • Two questions on Hitler:

    Firstly, what are your thoughts on Hitler?

    Secondly, how should we as Catholics view Hitler?

    Thirdly (and this is only an extension of the first so I don't consider it really a third question)- was Hitler fighting against the (((NWO))) or was he controlled opposition?

    I ask these two questions (I consider them as two) so people can say what they think and maybe we can "compare notes" so to speak and try to get to the bottom of things.

    I go back and forth on the "third" question- I think he's sincere when I watch him speak but when I take a step back... I can see that he may have been just an extremely talented actor and that he may have been controlled opposition as Henry Makow describes. Also, there is a section in the Protocols which described that they will be in control of opposition.

    I think the issue is that people are overly attached to a conclusion on whether or not he was controlled opposition. I'm honestly not sure and I mean.... if you come here with some mind-blowing evidence, I'm open to considering different views. I wouldn't really be surprised either way.

    But for the big Hitler fans- my issue is I've seen them deny that he was controlled opposition but.... wasn't it the case that very powerful financial interests like IBM backed him? I believe Anthony Sutton did a book showing something like that. And he also talked about Wall Street and the Bolsheviks so I don't think he's super biased.

    My issue is I have never seen the Hitler apologists explain that

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    Offline Bas Congo V

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    Re: Two Questions on Hitler
    « Reply #1 on: July 10, 2019, 06:32:28 PM »
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    • Most of your questions are answered here: https://thegreateststorynevertold.tv/
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    Offline Bas Congo V

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    Re: Two Questions on Hitler
    « Reply #2 on: July 10, 2019, 06:34:05 PM »
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    • Just scroll down about 1/4 the way to watch each segment for free.
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    Offline Joseantoniano

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    Re: Two Questions on Hitler
    « Reply #3 on: July 10, 2019, 06:59:23 PM »
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    • Quote from: Bas Congo V on July 10, 2019, 06:32:28 PM
    Most of your questions are answered here: https://thegreateststorynevertold.tv/
    I asked "what are your thoughts?". I don't think you really answered. I might watch the docuмentary later, though. However, I think it looks like it takes a line which is akin to Hitler-worship. I doubt I'll agree but I might watch it.
    I get that you want to promote the docuмentary but I think you should answer the questions in your own words. This is meant for discussion.
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    Offline Bas Congo V

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    Re: Two Questions on Hitler
    « Reply #4 on: July 10, 2019, 07:08:14 PM »
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    • You shouldn't be concerned about what other people think. Do the research yourself and think for yourself.
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    It is better to choose a commendable war than peace which separates from God. ~ St. Gregory

    Offline Vintagewife3

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    Re: Two Questions on Hitler
    « Reply #5 on: July 10, 2019, 07:14:41 PM »
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    • You have to research this yourself.


    Victors write history, and no one bothers to ask if they tell the truth.
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    Re: Two Questions on Hitler
    « Reply #6 on: July 10, 2019, 07:28:07 PM »
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    •  MY thoughts on Hitler?  I don't like him.
    As a Catholic?  Still don't like him.
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    Offline JezusDeKoning

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    Re: Two Questions on Hitler
    « Reply #7 on: July 10, 2019, 07:38:56 PM »
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    • Quote from: Seraphina on July 10, 2019, 07:28:07 PM
    MY thoughts on Hitler?  I don't like him.
    As a Catholic?  Still don't like him.
    There were no good sides in World War II. A Europe where the National Socialists win would have finished off the Church over there, just as the US did with Japan and the Urakami Cathedral.
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    Offline Joseantoniano

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    Re: Two Questions on Hitler
    « Reply #8 on: July 10, 2019, 08:07:31 PM »
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    • Quote from: Bas Congo V on July 10, 2019, 07:08:14 PM
    You shouldn't be concerned about what other people think. Do the research yourself and think for yourself.
    Maybe you've never read a Platonic dialogue. I am interested in what other people have to say and I think hearing different sides has its own intrinsic value. That I'm interested in hearing multiple sides of an issue is a good thing not a bad thing.
    If you're not interested in discussion that's fine but- this is a forum. The medium itself is meant for discussion.
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    Offline Joseantoniano

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    Re: Two Questions on Hitler
    « Reply #9 on: July 10, 2019, 08:14:38 PM »
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    • Quote from: Vintagewife3 on July 10, 2019, 07:14:41 PM
    You have to research this yourself.


    Victors write history, and no one bothers to ask if they tell the truth.
    This is a discussion forum. I don't think I'm wrong to promote discussion on a discussion forum.
    Also, discussing a topic with other people doesn't mean I don't have my own views and don't do my own research.
    People are acting like it's a crime to promote discussion. If we follow that logic to its end, this forum should simply die off.
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    Offline Joseantoniano

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    Re: Two Questions on Hitler
    « Reply #10 on: July 10, 2019, 08:21:38 PM »
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    • Quote from: JezusDeKoning on July 10, 2019, 07:38:56 PM
    There were no good sides in World War II. A Europe where the National Socialists win would have finished off the Church over there, just as the US did with Japan and the Urakami Cathedral.
    I agree with this view.
    I'm not exactly for either side. I think Spain was absolutely right to be neutral.
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    Offline Your Friend Colin

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    Re: Two Questions on Hitler
    « Reply #11 on: July 10, 2019, 08:24:40 PM »
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    • Quote from: Bas Congo V on July 10, 2019, 07:08:14 PM
    You shouldn't be concerned about what other people think. Do the research yourself and think for yourself.
    “Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment.“

    http://www.columbia.edu/acis/ets/CCREAD/etscc/kant.html

    Compare the spirit of the “Enlightenment” with the Catholic spirit:
    “Have confidence in the Lord with all thy heart, and lean not upon thy own prudence. In all thy ways think on him, and he will direct thy steps. Be not wise in thy own conceit: fear God, and depart from evil:...” (Proverbs 3:5-7, DR)

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    Re: Two Questions on Hitler
    « Reply #12 on: July 10, 2019, 08:29:16 PM »
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    Re: Two Questions on Hitler
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    Re: Two Questions on Hitler
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