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Re: Two Questions on Hitler
« Reply #60 on: July 23, 2019, 05:32:14 PM »
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  • For those who seriously want to learn about Adolf Hitler, read the following books by David Irving:

    The Path to War 1933-1939 (read this one first)
    Hitler's War

    Hands down the best authority on the subject.

    Didn't Irving blame everything on Himmler?

    Was Himmler Catholic?



    No matter what, I suspect he was a fascinating character to study?
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Two Questions on Hitler
    « Reply #61 on: July 23, 2019, 06:36:19 PM »
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  • Agreed. There is so much ignorance on this thread. But, that is to be expected.
    Interesting. I should pick it up. I am curious though, what is the basic thesis of the book? As I don't have it and I find it irritating when people drop the "idiots! you should read this book about it" comment and then leave, adding nothing to the conversation. If you are so knowledgeable on the subject care to break it down for us? 


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    Re: Two Questions on Hitler
    « Reply #62 on: July 23, 2019, 06:57:36 PM »
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  • Didn't Irving blame everything on Himmler?

    Was Himmler Catholic?



    No matter what, I suspect he was a fascinating character to study?
    Irving's biography on Himmler will be out this year. Both Himmler and Goebbels were far more filled with the hatred of Jews than their Fuhrer.
    I have read the biographies of Goering and Goebbels by Irving as well. Fascinating but revolting characters.
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    Re: Two Questions on Hitler
    « Reply #63 on: July 23, 2019, 09:12:33 PM »
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  • Interesting. I should pick it up. I am curious though, what is the basic thesis of the book? As I don't have it and I find it irritating when people drop the "idiots! you should read this book about it" comment and then leave, adding nothing to the conversation. If you are so knowledgeable on the subject care to break it down for us?

    http://r.duckduckgo.com/l/?kh=-1&uddg=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fpp.co.uk%2Fbooks%2FHitler%2F2001%2FHW_Web_dl.pdf

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    Re: Two Questions on Hitler
    « Reply #65 on: July 24, 2019, 12:06:30 AM »
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  • Regardless of what people think of the holocaust, those who deny it or whatnot, Hitler was a terrible person, a murderer, a heretic, and overall very bad. 
    Jorge Bergoglio isn’t even a real priest.

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    Re: Two Questions on Hitler
    « Reply #66 on: July 24, 2019, 05:54:26 AM »
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  • Regardless of what people think of the holocaust, those who deny it or whatnot, Hitler was a terrible person, a murderer, a heretic, and overall very bad.

    Yes, true, but compared to Merkel or other today's leaders he was a choirboy.

    Merkel commits genocide against her own people. Other European leaders do the same.
    Eugenics: Today we murder many more, before they're even born.
    Hitler's mixed Catholic/protestant schools were not worse than today's "catholic" schools.
    Antifa tries to copy SA
    Dissenters in today's Germany are persecuted on the streets and by the state.
    etc. pp.
    It is absurd to imagine that he who is outside can command in the Church — Leo XIII., Satis Cognitum, 1896

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    Re: Two Questions on Hitler
    « Reply #67 on: July 24, 2019, 12:59:54 PM »
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  • Yes, true, but compared to Merkel or other today's leaders he was a choirboy.

    Merkel commits genocide against her own people. Other European leaders do the same.
    Eugenics: Today we murder many more, before they're even born.
    I agree with your point on abortion. But genocide? I'm not sure what you mean by that, unless it's genocide by abortion which I believe is the case I don't see a genocide of people outside the womb. I mean there's no difference really. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding you.


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    Re: Two Questions on Hitler
    « Reply #68 on: July 24, 2019, 01:08:20 PM »
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  • I agree with your point on abortion. But genocide?

    Genocide by flooding Germany with aliens to destroy the German people.
    It is absurd to imagine that he who is outside can command in the Church — Leo XIII., Satis Cognitum, 1896

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    Re: Two Questions on Hitler
    « Reply #69 on: July 24, 2019, 01:30:32 PM »
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  • Genocide by flooding Germany with aliens to destroy the German people.
    I don't think Genocide use is the right word to use for that then. That evokes the image of mass killings and concentration camps. I don't see that happening in Europe. The immigration Into Europe is a huge issue but those immigrants are a minority. All things considered, what exactly would be the issue if one race was slowly replaced by another? What really matters is their faith. If they are Islamic or something else I see a problem, but if they were brought to the faith then there is no issue as to their skin color. Would you agree?

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    Re: Two Questions on Hitler
    « Reply #70 on: July 24, 2019, 02:09:00 PM »
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  • I don't think Genocide use is the right word to use for that then. That evokes the image of mass killings and concentration camps. I don't see that happening in Europe.

    Look:

    Quote from: Wikipedia
    Genocide is intentional action to destroy a group of people (usually defined as an ethnic, national, racial, or religious group) in whole or in part.



    The immigration Into Europe is a huge issue but those immigrants are a minority.

    Many major cities in Europe have more than 50% aliens today, and in schools numbers go well higher.


    All things considered, what exactly would be the issue if one race was slowly replaced by another?

    It's genocide. Intentional destruction of peoples. Peoples are families on a bigger scale. Destroying a people is like destroying a family.


    What really matters is their faith. If they are Islamic or something else I see a problem, but if they were brought to the faith then there is no issue as to their skin color. Would you agree?

    No. I don't agree. Destroying peoples is a major crime just like destroying families.
    It is absurd to imagine that he who is outside can command in the Church — Leo XIII., Satis Cognitum, 1896


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    Re: Two Questions on Hitler
    « Reply #71 on: July 24, 2019, 02:42:46 PM »
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  • Struthio, you obviously saw the many different definitions of genocide on that very wikipedia page you quoted. Granted, most of those definitions are roughly the same but you picked one that fit your argument. If a group or individual was committing genocide according to your definition I would agree that would be a sinful and evil act. I just don't think it's done intentionally. Why would Germany or Europe in general want to destroy their own race? I understand concepts such a racial guilt and so on but the numbers don't add up. Sure in cities the immigrant population is large but the numbers for the whole country are much lower. You also have to look at where these people are coming from instead of looking at a statistic blindly. Alot of immigrants come from eastern Europe to more Western European countries.

    Are white people (because that's basically who you're talking about) dying out? Maybe, birth rates are low but that's their own doing. Are there a large number of Muslims coming into Europe? Yes, but that is because of the war and instability in that region. Plus, Islam has always been trying to expand into Europe, since it's beginning. They are doing that on their own.
    The media sensationalized the immigration crisis. I think that alot of the ideas most people have is based on what the media tells them. Also the fallacy that is the belief that the world is getting more violent and dangerous is wrong. More brutal and violent things have gone on in the past, we just think things are going insane because we know of every event that happens because of the media. Compare that to only 20-30 years ago and alot of wild stuff was happening but no one knew about it due to lack of connectivity.
    Also reading negative intent into things is never a really smart or logical thing to do. I think things in the western world are unraveling on their own. I don't know why everyone has to be a conspiracy theorist and assume that there are a bunch of Jews (or whatever non white demographic you all like blaming things on) at the top running the show.

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    Re: Two Questions on Hitler
    « Reply #72 on: July 24, 2019, 03:24:42 PM »
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  • Yes, true, but compared to Merkel or other today's leaders he was a choirboy.

    Merkel commits genocide against her own people. Other European leaders do the same.
    Eugenics: Today we murder many more, before they're even born.
    Hitler's mixed Catholic/protestant schools were not worse than today's "catholic" schools.
    Antifa tries to copy SA
    Dissenters in today's Germany are persecuted on the streets and by the state.
    etc. pp.
    Please tell me this is satire. I don’t think merkel is openly calling and trying to execute “lower races”. She isn’t waging war on other countries killing civilians etc. she isn’t calling for the murder of millions in camps. 
    Jorge Bergoglio isn’t even a real priest.

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    Re: Two Questions on Hitler
    « Reply #73 on: July 24, 2019, 07:38:24 PM »
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  • Struthio, you obviously saw the many different definitions of genocide on that very wikipedia page you quoted.
    Granted, most of those definitions are roughly the same but you picked one that fit your argument.

    Merkel and other leaders are destroying their own peoples. Call it what you want to. Hitler was choirboy in comparison.



    I just don't think it's done intentionally.

    But it is. Planned by the U.N.. The globalists need a population which is more easy to govern. If you want to find out about it, inform yourself about "Replacement Migration", "Global Compact for Migration", etc. But make sure to look behind the euphemisms, and either read and study the hundreds of U.N. documents yourself or try to find some English speaking critic who explains it transparently.


    Are white people (because that's basically who you're talking about) dying out?

    I am not talking about "white skinned naked apes" but about the German people, the French people, etc. Read it like was speaking of Matthew's family, Laramies family, ...


    Are there a large number of Muslims coming into Europe? Yes, but that is because of the war and instability in that region. Plus, Islam has always been trying to expand into Europe, since it's beginning. They are doing that on their own.

    You're naive and fall for mainstream indoctrination. They systematically use social media to make millions of poor countries' middle-class people invest quite some money to leave their homes and move to Europe.


    The media sensationalized the immigration crisis. I think that alot of the ideas most people have is based on what the media tells them. Also the fallacy that is the belief that the world is getting more violent and dangerous is wrong. More brutal and violent things have gone on in the past, we just think things are going insane because we know of every event that happens because of the media. Compare that to only 20-30 years ago and alot of wild stuff was happening but no one knew about it due to lack of connectivity.
    Also reading negative intent into things is never a really smart or logical thing to do. I think things in the western world are unraveling on their own. I don't know why everyone has to be a conspiracy theorist and assume that there are a bunch of Jews (or whatever non white demographic you all like blaming things on) at the top running the show.

    You seem to suffer from a lack of connectivity still today. Inform yourself. The "immigration crisis" is part of a long term plan to create melting-pots, to destroy families, homogeneous neighborhoods, peoples etc. pp.
    It is absurd to imagine that he who is outside can command in the Church — Leo XIII., Satis Cognitum, 1896

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    Re: Two Questions on Hitler
    « Reply #74 on: July 24, 2019, 08:12:57 PM »
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  • The paper on Replacement Migration was done after the UN realized that the current decline in fertility rates will cause many problems in Europe. They proposed how many people would have to migrate to those countries to replace the current population and prevent the country's collapse. The paper even seemed to suggest that the decline was terminal and that the countries with the lowest replacement rates are already doomed. What I'm saying is, those migrants have nothing to do with the decline in population of white Europeans. They are doing that themselves, their own decadence and selfishness has led to them using contraception and abortion. They are committing suicide. They are doing it on their own and they are doing a good job of it. That's the story of history, people replacing other people.

    Is believing in violent Islamic expansionism really me being indoctrinated by the mainstream? Everyone wants you to think they are good-hearted people, they are not.  

    Your points are not points, they are just counter points. You're not arguing with me you are just saying that I am wrong without giving me reason why I am wrong. You are just telling me that you disagree and what your own belief on the subject is. 

    Also, why would anyone really want to work that hard to kill off Europeans as a whole? Especially if they are European themselves.

     

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