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Offline Geremia

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Trumps hypocrisy re: Obergefell v. Hodges Roe v. Wade
« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2016, 07:00:32 PM »
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    Trumps hypocrisy re: Obergefell v. Hodges Roe v. Wade
    « Reply #31 on: November 17, 2016, 08:25:18 PM »
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    That's right, Trump could be even more of an LGBT Pres than Obama was. The one thing I was hoping against hope for when Obama was first elected was that his Af-Am cultural background would prevent that agenda from moving forward. Boy was I ever wrong!


    Africoon-American?  You must not have seen as many nasty gαy niggers as I have seen.


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    Trumps hypocrisy re: Obergefell v. Hodges Roe v. Wade
    « Reply #32 on: November 18, 2016, 09:58:29 AM »
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  • Quote from: LifeSiteNews
    BREAKING: Trump appoints strongly pro-life, pro-marriage Sen. Jeff Sessions as Attorney General

    November 18, 2016 (LifeSiteNews) – President-elect Donald Trump has selected strongly pro-life and pro-marriage Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions as his Attorney General.

    Two people close to the campaign reported Friday morning that Trump had offered the position to Sessions. Trump's transition team confirmed it in a press release.

    “It is an honor to nominate U.S. Senator Jeff Sessions to serve as Attorney General of the United States,” said President-elect Trump. “Jeff has been a highly respected member of the U.S. Senate for 20 years. He is a world-class legal mind and considered a truly great Attorney General and U.S. Attorney in the state of Alabama. Jeff is greatly admired by legal scholars and virtually everyone who knows him.”

    "I am humbled to have been asked by President-elect Trump to serve as Attorney General of the United States,” said U.S. Senator Sessions. “My previous 15 years working in the Department of Justice were extraordinarily fulfilling. I love the Department, its people and its mission. I can think of no greater honor than to lead them. With the support of my Senate colleagues, I will give all my strength to advance the Department's highest ideals. I enthusiastically embrace President-elect Trump's vision for ‘one America,’ and his commitment to equal justice under law. I look forward to fulfilling my duties with an unwavering dedication to fairness and impartiality."

    In 2006, Sessions voted in favor of a constitutional amendment protecting marriage. He opposed the repeal of the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy on open ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs serving.

    Sessions called the Supreme Court's redefinition of marriage "beyond breathtaking" and warned, “We are at a period of secularization in America that I think is very dangerous, it erodes the very concept of truth, the very concept of right and wrong, and there are people out there who enjoy attacking people who follow biblical directives.”

    Sessions has a 100% voting record from National Right to Life. Sessions helped Trump vet his list of potential pro-life Supreme Court nominees.

    Following the Center for Medical Progress's videos showing Planned Parenthood trafficking in fetal body parts, Sessions joined with Republican colleagues asking Attorney General Loretta Lynch and the Department of Health and Human Services to investigate the abortion giant.
    Let's hope Sessions does something about the "beyond breathtaking" Obergefell v. Hodges.
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    Trumps hypocrisy re: Obergefell v. Hodges Roe v. Wade
    « Reply #33 on: November 18, 2016, 01:20:16 PM »
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    Quote from: LifeSiteNews
    BREAKING: Trump appoints strongly pro-life, pro-marriage Sen. Jeff Sessions as Attorney General

    November 18, 2016 (LifeSiteNews) – President-elect Donald Trump has selected strongly pro-life and pro-marriage Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions as his Attorney General.

    Two people close to the campaign reported Friday morning that Trump had offered the position to Sessions. Trump's transition team confirmed it in a press release.

    “It is an honor to nominate U.S. Senator Jeff Sessions to serve as Attorney General of the United States,” said President-elect Trump. “Jeff has been a highly respected member of the U.S. Senate for 20 years. He is a world-class legal mind and considered a truly great Attorney General and U.S. Attorney in the state of Alabama. Jeff is greatly admired by legal scholars and virtually everyone who knows him.”

    "I am humbled to have been asked by President-elect Trump to serve as Attorney General of the United States,” said U.S. Senator Sessions. “My previous 15 years working in the Department of Justice were extraordinarily fulfilling. I love the Department, its people and its mission. I can think of no greater honor than to lead them. With the support of my Senate colleagues, I will give all my strength to advance the Department's highest ideals. I enthusiastically embrace President-elect Trump's vision for ‘one America,’ and his commitment to equal justice under law. I look forward to fulfilling my duties with an unwavering dedication to fairness and impartiality."

    In 2006, Sessions voted in favor of a constitutional amendment protecting marriage. He opposed the repeal of the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy on open ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs serving.

    Sessions called the Supreme Court's redefinition of marriage "beyond breathtaking" and warned, “We are at a period of secularization in America that I think is very dangerous, it erodes the very concept of truth, the very concept of right and wrong, and there are people out there who enjoy attacking people who follow biblical directives.”

    Sessions has a 100% voting record from National Right to Life. Sessions helped Trump vet his list of potential pro-life Supreme Court nominees.

    Following the Center for Medical Progress's videos showing Planned Parenthood trafficking in fetal body parts, Sessions joined with Republican colleagues asking Attorney General Loretta Lynch and the Department of Health and Human Services to investigate the abortion giant.
    Let's hope Sessions does something about the "beyond breathtaking" Obergefell v. Hodges.


    Barring a constitutional amendment (which would require 2/3rds of the states, something that could kinda be done), nothing would happen. Overturning Supreme Court decisions has been done, but it's such a pain in the ass.
    Remember O most gracious Virgin Mary...

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    Trumps hypocrisy re: Obergefell v. Hodges Roe v. Wade
    « Reply #34 on: November 18, 2016, 02:55:58 PM »
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    What the Hell are you talking about?

    I'm sorry Croixalist... I guess I just gave you too much credit in thinking that you had a better objective perspective on current events.

    I suggest you read how you have expressed your opinion to Gerimia and myself. It was, IMO, condescending.


    I suggest that if you don't like your own attitude reflected back to you, don't initiate any exchanges with me. Unless you plan on following your threats of supposed knowledge, I also suggest you stop responding.

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    there has been only one Statesman in the entire World to have asked for the  Consecration of Russia... yes, yours truly, Vladimir Putin. But the Pope said no!


    Putin and the Russians (embassy) will tell anyone what they want to hear if they think they can gain an advantage. Seems to have worked out for the most part!

    From the interview you won't watch:
    Quote from: Putin
    Andrew Marr: "...I wonder, is there an element of liberalism in the heart of the Russian Bear at the moment that we'll see over the months ahead as well?"

    Putin: "What do you want me to say?"

    Marr: "I'd like you to say I'm a warm, liberal president. I've changed my views and I - no one need to fear me in any way at all."

    Putin: "It's true."


    Marr: "That's the answer? Ok, Marvelous. Ok."


    Back to Geremia who responded with my comment on Putin with a comment about Russia, who decided to gloss over his country's anti-Catholic policies and his own anti-Catholic actions in order to declare Russia has marginally better abortion and anti-sodomy regulations implying that somehow Russia and/or Putin is on their way to conversion. All the while, refusing to respond to the main piece of evidence which absolutely obliterates those implications.

    I challenge anyone on this forum to watch that interview in Sochi and still call him a conservative. Even if he's lying, he's perfectly content to present a false pretense.

    From the interview you won't watch:
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    In some states in the United States, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is criminalized so how can they criticize us for taking a far gentler and more liberal approach than they have back home.


    I double-dog dare you guys to explain that away!

    BTW Geremia, he's only half lying about criminalization of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity. ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ acts (deviant behavior including sodomy, oral sex and bestiality) are still banned in Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Texas, and Utah. They have been ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, but they are still on the books.  

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    Africoon-American?  You must not have seen as many nasty gαy niggers as I have seen.


    Your Alt+R keys are stuck. The non-Catholic white community was always the biggest purveyor of the gαy agenda and still is. While non-Catholic blacks had a lot of problems up to 2008, cultural acceptance of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity wasn't one of them. As it turns out, the President is every much their Pope for them as he is for the white Protestants... all it took was a change in ethnicity. Only Catholics truly have the graces needed to transcend the Judaized ethnic tribalism we currently live under.
    Fortuna finem habet.


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    Trumps hypocrisy re: Obergefell v. Hodges Roe v. Wade
    « Reply #35 on: November 18, 2016, 04:41:18 PM »
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  • Quote from: LifeSiteNews
    Supreme Court could be a new justice or two away from overturning gαy ‘marriage’ law: Christian attorney

    November 18, 2016 (LifeSiteNews)Liberty Counsel chairman Mat Staver says that if Donald Trump appoints constitutional originalists like the late Antonin Scalia to the Supreme Court, the 2015 Obergefell v Hodges ruling that forced ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ “marriage” on the states likely will be overturned.

    "If you nominate someone to the Supreme Court that has a judicial philosophy, not that they’re political pro-life vs. pro-abortion, but that they’re pro-life in the sense of they know that the Constitution has no basis for abortion,” Staver told WND's Radio America in a November 14 interview. “That means that someone’s viewing the Constitution based upon the written text. They’re not activists.[/i]

    "So if you have a person who is a pro-life justice, that’s a person who’s not going to be an activist justice or judge," he said. "If they’re not going to be activists on pro-life, then they’re not going to be activist on the issue of same-sex marriage because that’s even a further deviation from the Constitution beyond belief."

    "So if you put someone in there to fill Scalia’s spot, we’re still at … 5-4, right?" said Staver, an attorney who has defended Christian liberty cases before the high court. "So we still have the same terrible decision on marriage. But it’s likely that one more, two more, three more possibilities will come open in the next four years. And all he [Trump] has to do is appoint another Scalia, another Justice Thomas, someone who will respect the Constitution and, therefore, guess what happens? 5-4, 6-3, depending on how many he appoints, the other way.”

    Staver continued, “Just give the opportunity to fill those seats with someone who respects the Constitution and this razor-thin 5-4 decision on same-sex marriage, I think, will be in the same trash bin of history that Dred Scott found itself to be in when people began to wake up and have some common sense."

    In the 1857 Dred Scott v. Sanford case, the Supreme Court ruled (7-2) ruled that blacks, such as Dred Scott, brought into the United States as slaves could not be U.S. citizens and therefore had no standing to sue in federal court. Dred Scott was effectively overturned by the Civil Rights Act of 1866 and the 14th Amendment, giving black Americans full citizenship.

    As LifeSiteNews reported, many social conservatives were troubled by President-elected Trump’s assertion, in a CBS 60 Minutes interview, that the Obergefell decision, unlike Roe v. Wade, was “settled” law.
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    Trumps hypocrisy re: Obergefell v. Hodges Roe v. Wade
    « Reply #36 on: November 18, 2016, 07:40:26 PM »
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    I suggest that if you don't like your own attitude reflected back to you, don't initiate any exchanges with me. Unless you plan on following your threats of supposed knowledge, I also suggest you stop responding.

    Fair enough... But please take the time to read this article that I found today.  It's a piece that I've never been familiar with until today.  If I was a better writer, this would pretty much reflect everything that I would have wrote to state my conclusions and/or point of view.

    Then it might be possible to have further discussions because it may help push away some of these inclinations that bombard us everyday. That is these Alinsky type "branding" cursades.

    http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=8159


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    Putin and the Russians (embassy) will tell anyone what they want to hear if they think they can gain an advantage. Seems to have worked out for the most part!

    The source was through the channels of the Vatican

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    From the interview you won't watch:

    I've watched it... it's like so many others if you take them out of context. Not to say it's okay, but we see this type of conduct from politicians on a daily bases.  Mr. Putin is always walking on eggshells when dealing with the western media. Politicians will try to satisfy the emotion of the moment.

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    I double-dog dare you guys to explain that away!

    I'd recommend that you read, or listen, very carefully to what he's saying, I don't think it will require much explanation.

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    Trumps hypocrisy re: Obergefell v. Hodges Roe v. Wade
    « Reply #37 on: December 13, 2016, 05:50:39 PM »
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  • Yep, just as we thought, Trump is soft on the effeminates:

    Trump’s new Secretary of State pushed for open ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity in the Boy Scouts
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    Trumps hypocrisy re: Obergefell v. Hodges Roe v. Wade
    « Reply #38 on: February 10, 2017, 09:23:51 AM »
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  • Ivanka Trump, husband reportedly stopped religious freedom order; Pence affirms pro-LGBT rights move
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    The power couple, though identifying as Orthodox Jєωιѕн, have a history of supporting ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ activism, including co-hosting a fundraiser for a leading pro-ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ “marriage” group in 2011.
    Although acting as though it's contradictory that Jєωs would support the sodomy movement, I'm surprised LSN has run an article linking Jєωs to the movement.
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    Trumps hypocrisy re: Obergefell v. Hodges Roe v. Wade
    « Reply #39 on: February 14, 2017, 04:58:06 PM »
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  • @0:42: Trump says it's settled law in his November 13, 2016, 60 Minutes interview:
    [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/tAgxfQbl2KU#t=42s[/youtube]
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