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Offline Giovanni Berto

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Re: Trump-Zelensky meeting
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2025, 05:55:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on March 01, 2025, 12:09:49 PM
    So, if you were Trump, what would you do instead?

    Some might say, "not every controversy or strife is 100% vain" and, that Trump wants peace in Ukraine (for whatever reason, base or noble).

    I certainly would not have important meetings discussing wars in front of the cameras.

    If the Jews want peace in Ukraine, they will get it. There's no need to make a comedy about it. 

    Quote from: Yeti on March 01, 2025, 03:12:49 PM
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    The entire purpose of this "circus", as you call it, was that Trump was telling Zelensky to stop the war so that people would stop dying, and told him that the United States will not help Zelensky continue killing people.

    Not Zelensky nor Trump say when the war starts or ends. Nor Putin. We all know who decide these things.

    What I mean is that if their bosses decided to end the war, these clowns could at least have some respect for the people that they claim do serve, and behave like presidents would.

    Is a shouting match an adequate way to represent your country and your people? I don't think so.

    The man won't even wear a suit. He has never abandoned his carreer on comedy. He's just changed his workplace.
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    Re: Trump-Zelensky meeting
    « Reply #16 on: March 01, 2025, 06:17:58 PM »
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    • Quote from: Michelle on March 01, 2025, 03:47:41 PM
    it's all theatrics.
    Even so, theatrics can have an effect.
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    Re: Trump-Zelensky meeting
    « Reply #17 on: March 01, 2025, 07:00:59 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on March 01, 2025, 12:09:49 PM
    So, if you were Trump, what would you do instead?

    Some might say, "not every controversy or strife is 100% vain" and, that Trump wants peace in Ukraine (for whatever reason, base or noble).
    Sure, we can try being optimistic.
    However, there is an elephant in the room: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOk7w_kIx1w
    Further, we know who profited from the war.
    We know who profits from the rebuild.
    When you look at the whole picture, it's very DIFFICULT to be optimistic.

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    Re: Trump-Zelensky meeting
    « Reply #18 on: March 01, 2025, 08:27:56 PM »
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    • Quote from: Giovanni Berto on March 01, 2025, 05:55:47 PM
    I certainly would not have important meetings discussing wars in front of the cameras.

    If the Jews want peace in Ukraine, they will get it. There's no need to make a comedy about it.

    Not Zelensky nor Trump say when the war starts or ends. Nor Putin. We all know who decide these things.

    What I mean is that if their bosses decided to end the war, these clowns could at least have some respect for the people that they claim do serve, and behave like presidents would.

    Is a shouting match an adequate way to represent your country and your people? I don't think so.

    The man won't even wear a suit. He has never abandoned his carreer on comedy. He's just changed his workplace.
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    This entire post is utterly ridiculous.

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    Not Zelensky nor Trump say when the war starts or ends. Nor Putin. We all know who decide these things.

    What I mean is that if their bosses decided to end the war, these clowns could at least have some respect for the people that they claim do serve, and behave like presidents would.

    Well, Zelensky has only been continuing this war with the help of American money. And Trump just told him that's now at an end. And what do you mean by "behave like presidents would"?

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    Is a shouting match an adequate way to represent your country and your people? I don't think so.

    It sure is when you're telling a mass murderer that your country will not support him nor his mass murdering war anymore.

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    The man won't even wear a suit. He has never abandoned his carreer on comedy. He's just changed his workplace.

    And he just got deservedly insulted and thrown out of the White House by President Trump. I can't figure out what you're unhappy with here.
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    Re: Trump-Zelensky meeting
    « Reply #19 on: March 01, 2025, 08:28:02 PM »
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    • Quote from: Michelle on March 01, 2025, 03:47:41 PM
    Imo, it's all theatrics. 
    Yes, political theater.
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    Re: Trump-Zelensky meeting
    « Reply #20 on: March 01, 2025, 08:29:58 PM »
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    • Quote from: Plenus Venter on March 01, 2025, 07:00:59 PM
    Sure, we can try being optimistic.
    However, there is an elephant in the room:
    Further, we know who profited from the war.
    We know who profits from the rebuild.
    When you look at the whole picture, it's very DIFFICULT to be optimistic.

    Nevertheless --
    There are only 2 paths for our elected President to take. Regardless of who controls him, which small country he puts first, the state of his soul, etc.

    A) Try to bring the Ukraine war to an end
    B) Try to continue the Ukraine war (and risk WW3)

    There are really only 2 options. It's quite binary. Continue the war, or No.

    Are you disagreeing with the President's current path, namely A)?

    If the most holy and devout of Traditional Catholics were elected by some miracle, could he do any better than A)?
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    Re: Trump-Zelensky meeting
    « Reply #21 on: March 01, 2025, 09:35:16 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on March 01, 2025, 08:29:58 PM
    Nevertheless --
    There are only 2 paths for our elected President to take. Regardless of who controls him, which small country he puts first, the state of his soul, etc.

    A) Try to bring the Ukraine war to an end
    B) Try to continue the Ukraine war (and risk WW3)

    There are really only 2 options. It's quite binary. Continue the war, or No.

    Are you disagreeing with the President's current path, namely A)?

    If the most holy and devout of Traditional Catholics were elected by some miracle, could he do any better than A)?
    I think it's obvious we are beyond human solutions now.
    I'm simply making the observation that others have made in this thread that this interview really does look like premeditated theatre, taking us for fools, and the A above needs to be put in the context of the whole alphabet, not just B!
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    Re: Trump-Zelensky meeting
    « Reply #22 on: March 01, 2025, 10:41:28 PM »
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    • Whether intentional or not this episode took some attention away from the Trump admins' purposeful mishandling of the release of the Epstein stuff.
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    Re: Trump-Zelensky meeting
    « Reply #23 on: March 01, 2025, 10:48:02 PM »
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    I'm simply making the observation that others have made in this thread that this interview really does look like premeditated theatre, taking us for fools, 

    I think it was premeditated by Trump/Vance, to trigger the hot-head Zelensky into an argument.  Now that Zelensky looks like an idiot, it's easier to get him to negotiate.

    As Rubio explained last night, the US has been working with Ukraine for the past 5 days to get them to sign a minerals deal (which includes military protection).  So this minerals deal puts the US as a "buffer" between Ukraine and Russia.  If we have people over there, then Russia won't attack and vice versa.

    But Rubio said that Ukraine wouldn't sign the deal and kept dragging their feet.  They told the US, "We'll fly over there and sign in person."  (which wasn't necessary).  So the US said, "Ok, come over and sign.  We'll have a meeting."  Then Zelensky shows up and doesn't talk about signing the deal and instead asks for $ and weapons.

    This ticked off Trump and Vance.  And Rubio said that it was a whole "waste of our time".  This is why Trump/Vance wanted to (and succeeded in) making Zelensky look bad.  Rubio said he's unsure if Zelensky really wants peace.  He says he does, but then uses every opportunity to avoid negotiations.
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    Re: Trump-Zelensky meeting
    « Reply #24 on: March 01, 2025, 11:08:40 PM »
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    • It's been made into a musical now.

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    Re: Trump-Zelensky meeting
    « Reply #25 on: March 01, 2025, 11:11:39 PM »
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    • By the way, here is the best assessment of the interview --

    If you watch just "the media soundbites", or no more than 10 minutes of it (when things heat up) you are given the impression Trump and Vance ambushed him.

    If you watch the whole 40 minutes, you are under a completely different impression.

    I find that interesting.
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    Re: Trump-Zelensky meeting
    « Reply #26 on: March 02, 2025, 01:25:25 AM »
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    • The drama continues around the world. This is not accidental. The media are conditioning us. What are they up to? Is this in fact warmongering? It is the Deep State that determines when wars start and finish, just as they do with pandemics, economic recessions...

    5:40 - a former US diplomat says Trump wants to destroy the European Union:

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    Re: Trump-Zelensky meeting
    « Reply #27 on: March 02, 2025, 10:17:59 AM »
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    • Zelensky threatened the USA saying we will have problems with Russia if we don’t spend more money on them.  If we keep supporting zelensky, the USA will have problems with Russia. 

    Theater or not, it’s refreshing that our president and vice president defended our country.  

    No real man will put on women’s clothes and dance like a pervert.  

    Europe needs take care of their own business instead of instigating the blood shed of innocent people. 

    We have people in California, Hawaii, North Carolina, Tennessee etc who are still homeless.   Real charity starts at home. 

    Ireland’s Catholic Sinn Fein pro abortion loving bimbos don’t need to visit the USA either.  Let Ireland take care of Ukraine.  

    Dolan of NYC can’t mention the Holy Name of Jesus.   No, we Catholics don’t fast and pray with heretics.  

    If you live by the sword , you die by the sword.  


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    Re: Trump-Zelensky meeting
    « Reply #28 on: March 02, 2025, 01:54:00 PM »
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    Re: Trump-Zelensky meeting
    « Reply #29 on: March 02, 2025, 01:55:50 PM »
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    • There are several objectives at play here and the spectacle between Trump and Zelensky works in favour of all them. 

    Despite Trump claims, Russia isn't doing great in this war. There was no US support in the first few weeks of the war and Russia lost badly abandoning equipment on the road to Kiev. So it wasn't thanks to US help that Ukraine held on. 

    Trump's claim is therefore untrue. 

    The front of confrontation is pretty much where as was in summer of 2022 except that Russia has lost the Kursk region and the Black Sea fleet. So Trump here is essentially providing a way for Putin to save face by claiming that Ukraine is doing badly. 

    Ukraine is mostly in the hands of Chabad now and well on the way to becoming a new Khazaria or a second Jerusalem. So the war aims of destroying slav goyim is pretty much on course. Chabad bonus, huge 'liberated' towns like Marioupol have been population replaced by muslims from Central Asia. 

    Another USA war aim is to continue to destroy Europe economically. If Europe continue to fund Zelensky as seems to be likely, whilst importing gas from the USA rather than Russia then it looks good from the USA point of view. 

    And now that Trump is no longer concerned with Ukraine, he can concentrate on his new messianic role in helping the Greater Israel project and the Third Temple. 
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