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Offline Centroamerica

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« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2016, 03:18:26 PM »
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    Maybe Cruz is secretly planning to submit the United States to Christ the King. He hasn't said anything along these lines, but hey, if he gave away his plans now, he wouldn't get elected!

    Give me a break.



    It's funny that you knock Trump so much for whatever his morality and ambitions are. Let's see you devote that same energy to Cruz...you've seen the video, right?




    Anyways, Trump is the only candidate that mentions God as his creator (even if it is in praise of himself). At this point, there are a million reasons why to vote for Trump and not Cruz.
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

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    « Reply #16 on: March 09, 2016, 04:17:04 PM »
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    Maybe Cruz is secretly planning to submit the United States to Christ the King. He hasn't said anything along these lines, but hey, if he gave away his plans now, he wouldn't get elected!

    Give me a break.



    It's funny that you knock Trump so much for whatever his morality and ambitions are. Let's see you devote that same energy to Cruz...you've seen the video, right?




    Anyways, Trump is the only candidate that mentions God as his creator (even if it is in praise of himself). At this point, there are a million reasons why to vote for Trump and not Cruz.


    It's because no one is claiming that Cruz is something that he's not.

    I'd rather like to see him stay in the senate where he can promote the things he's strong in (economic, social issues) and have little to no control over things he's wrong on (Israel, etc).

    I'd like to see some evidence of your claim about Trump having the high ground on anything religious, though. Both Rubio and Cruz speak about God much more intelligently than Trump does. I've listened to them both and couldn't find much to criticize over and above typical Protestantism. Trump, on the other hand, is described by a local Protestant minister as "lacking basic decency," which I thought was a very polite description.


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    « Reply #17 on: March 09, 2016, 04:29:49 PM »
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  • Here's the reason why Cruz should NEVER be president:

    [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/Qq8y5Hd3yyw[/youtube]

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    « Reply #18 on: March 09, 2016, 05:49:12 PM »
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    It seems that many Trads are foolishly banking on what Trump hasn't said, in the vein of, "Of course he can't share his plans with the world yet, or he wouldn't get elected."

    You could say that about any candidate!  Maybe Cruz is secretly planning to submit the United States to Christ the King. He hasn't said anything along these lines, but hey, if he gave away his plans now, he wouldn't get elected!

    Give me a break.


    He has shared many of his plans. On his campaign website you can read policy papers on Healthcare Reform, U.S.-China Trade Reform, Veterans Administration Reform, Tax Reform, Second Amendment Rights, and Immigration Reform. He has also issued statements in print and other official media against Roe v. Wade, on Supreme Court Justices, preventing Muslim immigration, improving relations with Russia, curtailing the influence of lobbyists and donors, and other big issues. I have no idea where you're finding these people who support him for secret plans nobody knows about.

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    Everything about Trump says establishment, elite, rich, worldly, immoral, morally bankrupt, proud, dishonest, and spiritually united with the secularist Jews.


    If that's all I knew about him, I would agree. But if I also knew about his self-funding, his anti-immigration, anti-Islam, anti-corruption, anti-PC, protectionist, and conservative political platforms, and if I knew about his endorsements like Buchanan, Sessions, and Le Pen, and if I knew about the globalist executives and CEOs, press magnates and politicians holding hush-hush meetings and spending like mad to halt his campaign, I would strongly consider - as would any reasonable person - that he either never was establishment, or that he has gone rogue on them.

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    « Reply #19 on: March 09, 2016, 06:51:27 PM »
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    Trump, on the other hand, is described by a local Protestant minister as "lacking basic decency," which I thought was a very polite description.


    Regarding Trump's morals, if one doesn't gratuitously assume that he's a deep agent, one's forced to admit that he's spending a fortune and risking his life for what he sees as the national good.


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    « Reply #20 on: March 09, 2016, 07:03:00 PM »
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    Trump, on the other hand, is described by a local Protestant minister as "lacking basic decency," which I thought was a very polite description.


    Regarding Trump's morals, if one doesn't gratuitously assume that he's a deep agent, one's forced to admit that he's spending a fortune and risking his life for what he sees as the national good.


    Technically, he's given very little to his campaign. The majority is a loan and only time will tell if he pays himself back or not.

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    « Reply #21 on: March 09, 2016, 07:05:43 PM »
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    Here's the reason why Cruz should NEVER be president:

    [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/Qq8y5Hd3yyw[/youtube]


    He had a pretty mixed opinion of Cruz. Here's what he says about Trump.

    [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/9Lv-r_XQK4M[/youtube]

    [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/kcpnyhSEnXU[/youtube]

    "Hate to burst everyone's bubble, but the Jews got their man in Donald Trump." -Br. N

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    « Reply #22 on: March 09, 2016, 08:04:16 PM »
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    Trump, on the other hand, is described by a local Protestant minister as "lacking basic decency," which I thought was a very polite description.


    Regarding Trump's morals, if one doesn't gratuitously assume that he's a deep agent, one's forced to admit that he's spending a fortune and risking his life for what he sees as the national good.


    Technically, he's given very little to his campaign. The majority is a loan and only time will tell if he pays himself back or not.


    Small dollar donations aren't going to pay back $25 million and counting.

    Does a CathInfo political discussion really need to mirror the partisanship of the campaign itself, with no good point or well-made defense ever recognized by the opposition, but always either ignored or countered with an aspersion?

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    Would he ever raise donor money to pay himself back?

    Not a chance, says campaign manager Corey Lewandowski.

    "He is not going to repay himself," Lewandowski said in an interview this week with The Associated Press.

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    Indeed, Lewandowski dismissed the possibility as "ridiculous."

    "We have said over and over, he's self-funding," Lewandowski said. "I don't know how can pay yourself back with money you're not raising."


    http://bigstory.ap.org/urn:publicid:ap.org:b87136a68b1349bfb2990c5eede62ba6


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    « Reply #23 on: March 09, 2016, 08:27:26 PM »
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    Trump, on the other hand, is described by a local Protestant minister as "lacking basic decency," which I thought was a very polite description.


    Regarding Trump's morals, if one doesn't gratuitously assume that he's a deep agent, one's forced to admit that he's spending a fortune and risking his life for what he sees as the national good.


    Technically, he's given very little to his campaign. The majority is a loan and only time will tell if he pays himself back or not.


    Small dollar donations aren't going to pay back $25 million and counting.

    Does a CathInfo political discussion really need to mirror the partisanship of the campaign itself, with no good point or well-made defense ever recognized by the opposition, but always either ignored or countered with an aspersion?

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    Would he ever raise donor money to pay himself back?

    Not a chance, says campaign manager Corey Lewandowski.

    "He is not going to repay himself," Lewandowski said in an interview this week with The Associated Press.

    [...]

    Indeed, Lewandowski dismissed the possibility as "ridiculous."

    "We have said over and over, he's self-funding," Lewandowski said. "I don't know how can pay yourself back with money you're not raising."


    http://bigstory.ap.org/urn:publicid:ap.org:b87136a68b1349bfb2990c5eede62ba6





    25 million dollars is piss in the wind to Trump. You do realize he is a multi billionaire right?

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    « Reply #24 on: March 09, 2016, 08:59:59 PM »
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  • One moment Trump isn't as rich as he says and isn't spending anything, the next he's actually a super rich mega-billionaire and isn't spending enough; and if he started spending a lot more, they'd be sure to say he's wasteful. Every defense and explanation and clarification offered is ignored or given the old drive-by aspersion treatment.

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    « Reply #25 on: March 09, 2016, 09:43:51 PM »
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    Would he ever raise donor money to pay himself back?

    Not a chance, says campaign manager Corey Lewandowski.

    "He is not going to repay himself," Lewandowski said in an interview this week with The Associated Press.

    [...]

    Indeed, Lewandowski dismissed the possibility as "ridiculous."

    "We have said over and over, he's self-funding," Lewandowski said. "I don't know how can pay yourself back with money you're not raising."


    http://bigstory.ap.org/urn:publicid:ap.org:b87136a68b1349bfb2990c5eede62ba6


    There's certainly a reason that he "gave" it as a loan. Just as there are certainly reasons why he won't release the NYT tapes or his tax returns. What do you suppose is his reason for not giving the money to his campaign outright?

    As far as agreeing, I think the OP was a fairly balanced article when taken alongside the article it linked to (which I posted). I disagreed with its concluding section, though.

    Our difference of opinion is largely 2-fold:

    1) I think the nation's priority should be to work toward bringing our society into closer conformity with God's laws before we embark on overthrowing the powers which threaten us and/or rule over us. Why? Because it seems to me that God has designed that the route to prosperity is through Him, not despite Him. I don't have to live in the wealthiest nation in the world to save my soul. If my nation is controlled by outside powers, I can still save my soul. But, if my nation normalizes heinous sins and pretends as if the everyday mortal sins aren't really sins at all, THAT is a real danger to my soul and the souls of my family.

    As Bishop Williamson has explained, the Jews and the Muslims are twin scourges whose power is directly proportional to our flight from God. The remedy is not to try and directly rid ourselves of the scourge, but to instead turn ourselves toward God.

    2) Secondarily, there are a few issues which I believe Trump is stronger on than the other candidates, but I see his "strength" on these things as very minimal combined with the fact that he's proven again and again and again that he frequently changes his mind and is not above outright lying. For example, if he wins the presidency and then works a "mega deal" totally favorable to Israel, works to take out Assad, and then alienates Putin, can I really say that he's gone against any promises he made to his supporters?


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    « Reply #26 on: March 09, 2016, 10:25:12 PM »
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  • The fact that fortune 500 company CEOs are flying around in hush hush meetings to derail Trump means nothing.   It doesn't legitimize any of his promises, nor his faulty political record.  All it means is that a bunch of liberals don't like him and would rather have a democrat in the white house.  

    Lets not forget that the masons here in the US are made up of political groups and they jockey for position just like we see on tv in the campaigns.  There were just as many big wig rich guys who opposed Obama as oppose Trump.  This is all a political game to them.  In the end, Cruz, Trump, Rubio, Sanders, Clinton...whoever is elected is part of the system, in varying degrees.  But they will ALL play the game.  They know the consequences and who's in charge.

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    « Reply #27 on: March 10, 2016, 10:50:28 AM »
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  • Ted Cruz's close ties to New York's activist pervert fag "Lavender Mafia".


    http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/articles/20160131

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    After staking his political career on bashing equal rights for gαys, including pushing for a constitutional amendment allowing states to ban gαy marriage, on April 20, 2015, Cruz and his wife Heidi, a Goldman Sachs executive, were feted at a reception at the 230 Central Park South mega-townhouse of one of Manhattan's most well-known gαy entrepreneurs, Ian Reisner, who was joined by his one-time partner, Mati Weiderpass. Reisner is a co-founder of Parkview Developers and a former managing director of the Bank of America and derivatives trader for Salomon Brothers. Weiderpass is a military veteran and former marketing manager for Swatch. At the reception, Reisner, who, as of last year, was a registered Republican, handed Cruz a check for $2700, the maximum amount permitted under federal election law. Reisner and Weiderpass previously donated to former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani's presidential campaign. Among Reisner's and Weiderpass's circle of friends is Ken Mehlman, the former Republican National Committee chairman who is also gαy.

    The mid-town reception was not the only Cruz connection to New York's Wall Street gαy community. Cruz has stated that openly-gαy San Francisco investor Peter Thiel, is a good friend of his. Other gαy New York businessmen also attended the political bash at the Reisner townhouse.

    [...]

    After liberal gαys found out about the Cruz reception, they immediately castigated Reisner and Weiderpass, even organizing a boycott of their gαy-oriented businesses, which include the "Out NYC" hotel in Hell's Kitchen and the Pavilion nightclub and Sip-n-Twirl bar, both gαy entertainment locales; the Blue Whale restaurant; and the Botel hotel in Fire Island Pines on Long Island. The Fire Island resort has been a longtime center for the production of gαy porn and drag queen shows. Reisner's liaison to the Fire Island business community is Omar Sharif, Jr., the gαy grandson of the late Egyptian actor. Reisner's plans include opening an Out Hotel in Chicago in Boy's Town, the gαy entertainment district that, in the past, attracted such notable politicians as former GOP Representative Aaron Schock, then-congressman Rahm Emanuel, and an Illinois state senator named Barack Obama.

    [...]

    After being taken to task by New York's powerful and liberal gαy community for hosting Cruz, Reisner defended the reception by claiming it was to thank Cruz for his unwavering support for Israel. The reception for Cruz was not Reisner's only fundraiser for an anti-gαy Republican. The real estate magnate had also hosted a reception for Wisconsin's anti-gαy GOP senator Ron Johnson. New York's politically-active gαy community is sometimes called the "Lavender Mafia," because of their power and influence. While most of this mafia is liberal, there are those who support conservative causes and candidates. Former Texas Republican Governor Rick Perry, who recently endorsed Cruz, was involved with Texas's influential conservative Lavender Mafia and, as WMR previously reported, Perry himself is a member of that same grouping of conservative but closeted gαy politicians.

    Last month, GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump hit back at Cruz on Twitter for accepting money from New York's gαy and financial community after the Texas senator questioned Trump's "New York values." Trump also pointed to a New York Times article that stated that Cruz told the attendees of the Reisner reception that he would have no problem if one of his daughters was gαy.

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    « Reply #28 on: March 10, 2016, 05:35:40 PM »
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  • You want Trump to change pray your heart out and
    God can do just that ! :pray: :pray: :pray::incense:

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    « Reply #29 on: March 10, 2016, 05:41:11 PM »
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    You want Trump to change pray your heart out and
    God can do just that ! :pray: :pray: :pray::incense:





    Can he, yes. Will he, no. Man has turned their back on God and so God shall leave us to our fate.