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Title: Trump supports gun bans
Post by: Mark 79 on November 02, 2024, 04:14:48 PM
Donald Trump in 2000:
“I SUPPORT THE BAN ON ASSAULT WEAPONS”
https://theintercept.com/2016/01/27/donald-trump-in-2000-i-support-the-ban-on-assault-weapons/ (https://archive.is/o/7dPgx/https://theintercept.com/2016/01/27/donald-trump-in-2000-i-support-the-ban-on-assault-weapons/)

Title: Re: Trump supports gun bans
Post by: Mark 79 on November 02, 2024, 04:15:15 PM
Donald Trump in 2018:
• “…asks Dianne Feinstein to add ‘assault weapons’ ban to school safety bill”
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/02/28/president-trump-asks-dianne-feinstein-add-assault-weapons-ban-school-safety-bill/ (https://archive.is/o/7dPgx/https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/02/28/president-trump-asks-dianne-feinstein-add-assault-weapons-ban-school-safety-bill/)
 
• Trump orders DOJ to issue rule banning bump stocks
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/380018-trump-reverses-obama-era-rule-to-ban-bump-stocks (https://archive.is/o/7dPgx/https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/380018-trump-reverses-obama-era-rule-to-ban-bump-stocks)
 
• Trump on Gun Restraining Orders: ‘I Like Taking the Guns Early’ –
‘Take the Guns First, Go Through Due Process Second’
https://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/02/28/trump-on-gun-restraining-orders-i-like-taking-the-guns-early-take-the-guns-first-go-through-due-process-second/ (https://archive.is/o/7dPgx/https://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/02/28/trump-on-gun-restraining-orders-i-like-taking-the-guns-early-take-the-guns-first-go-through-due-process-second/)
 
• Fix NICS Bill to Strengthen Gun Background Check System Signed into Law by Trump
https://culberson.house.gov/news/docuмentsingle.aspx?DocuмentID=398944 (https://archive.is/o/7dPgx/https://culberson.house.gov/news/docuмentsingle.aspx?DocuмentID=398944)
 
• “President Donald J. Trump is Taking Immediate Actions…calling on every State to adopt Extreme Risk Protection Orders (ERPOs).”
https://web.archive.org/web/20201119142506/https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-taking-immediate-actions-secure-schools/ (https://archive.is/o/7dPgx/https://web.archive.org/web/20201119142506/https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-taking-immediate-actions-secure-schools/)

Title: Re: Trump supports gun bans
Post by: Mark 79 on November 02, 2024, 04:16:16 PM
“…take the guns first, then do due process second.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JfisbUVei4
Title: Re: Trump supports gun bans
Post by: Ladislaus on November 02, 2024, 05:00:24 PM
Oh, come on ... have the humility to admit that Trump is just playing a "long game" in his 30-D chess match, and that you're mind is just too small to comprehend it.
Title: Re: Trump supports gun bans
Post by: Matthew on November 02, 2024, 05:37:58 PM
This kind of fear porn is ridiculous, considering Trump has already been President for one term...
If he was really going to take our guns, why didn't he do it when he had the chance?

I think it's a valid question. I think certain extreme fears about a new president fall hollow when the man has already spent 4 years as President. He neither started the Fourth Reich, nor deported all Mexican-Americans, nor started World War 3, nor became Dictator for Life, etc. etc.

I don't care if Trump is part of the inner circle of the Illuminati: NO MAN, HOWEVER RICH OR POWERFUL can guarantee they'll have 2 more years of life at age 70 -- much less 8 more years. Even if the devil is actively working with Trump and his team, the devil still doesn't have power of life & death. Why would Trump wait until he leaves office, loses power for 4 years due to fraud, and then HOPES to get back in for a second term 2025 - 2029 -- hoping he'll live more than a few days of his 2nd term? Not reasonable. No one knows how long he will live, especially at that age. Many men never see 70, much less 80.
Title: Re: Trump supports gun bans
Post by: Ladislaus on November 02, 2024, 06:46:42 PM
Quote from: Matthew on November 02, 2024, 05:37:58 PM
If he was really going to take our guns, why didn't he do it when he had the chance?

Perhaps the same reason that Obama didn't either?  It's because they do what they think they can get away with and sometimes prefer to boil the frog ... little by little.  First this type of thing (e.g. bump stock), then that type of thing (certain kinds of ammo) ... that's how they all operate.

Nor is it possible for a President to just unilaterally take guns away, and certainly not in one fell swoop.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/08/16/obama-gun-control-227625/
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The Real Reason Obama Didn’t Pass Gun Control
...
Such a strategy is not without significant political risk. There is a reason why Obama did not try to build a robust gun control mandate in 2008 and 2012: He probably would have lost critical swing states like Ohio, Iowa and Colorado.
Title: Re: Trump supports gun bans
Post by: Minnesota on November 02, 2024, 08:34:26 PM
We had several mass shootings under all three presidents.

Not a single piece of federal gun control was passed. Not one. Even the bump stock legislation was eventually overturned. If all three of them have at one point had enough support in both chambers of Congress to pass gun restrictions, what was stopping them? Just some food for thought.
Title: Re: Trump supports gun bans
Post by: Mark 79 on November 02, 2024, 08:45:01 PM
Quote from: Matthew on November 02, 2024, 05:37:58 PM
This kind of fear porn is ridiculous, considering Trump has already been President for one term...
If he was really going to take our guns, why didn't he do it when he had the chance?

I think it's a valid question. I think certain extreme fears about a new president fall hollow when the man has already spent 4 years as President. He neither started the Fourth Reich, nor deported all Mexican-Americans, nor started World War 3, nor became Dictator for Life, etc. etc.

I don't care if Trump is part of the inner circle of the Illuminati: NO MAN, HOWEVER RICH OR POWERFUL can guarantee they'll have 2 more years of life at age 70 -- much less 8 more years. Even if the devil is actively working with Trump and his team, the devil still doesn't have power of life & death. Why would Trump wait until he leaves office, loses power for 4 years due to fraud, and then HOPES to get back in for a second term 2025 - 2029 -- hoping he'll live more than a few days of his 2nd term? Not reasonable. No one knows how long he will live, especially at that age. Many men never see 70, much less 80.

Trump moved the gun control football further down the field than Obama or Biden.

•Trump initiated the bump stock ban
•Trump supports gun seizures on the word of angry women, "red flag laws"
•Trump signed the expansion of background checks

Obama's only gun control "success" was his executive order on NFA Trusts section 41f.
Trump could have reversed that with an executive order, but did not.

•Trump has repeatedly advocated semi-auto bans, even worked twice with Diane Feinstein in that goal
•Trump boasts he supports gun seizures first and due process later
•Trump nominated Bill Barr as Attorney General, a man who advocates further gun control and who blocked the State of Idaho's murder prosecution against Lon Horiuchi, the FBI killer of Vicki Weaver on Ruby Ridge.

He did all that in his first term when he was restrained by his hopes for a second term.

What will he do in a second term when he no longer needs his useful idiots who give him a pass on every evil because he is a "lesser evil"?

Look! I fully expect that Trump will "win" and we will all suffer for it.

That doesn't mean I love the Jamaican Jew.

It just means that the fucking Jews have long owned "the two party system."

You've waffled on your support for Trump twice. I look forward to another waffle.


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Title: Re: Trump supports gun bans
Post by: Ladislaus on November 02, 2024, 09:05:16 PM
Quote from: Mark 79 on November 02, 2024, 08:45:01 PM

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