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Offline Pax Vobis

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Trump starts first Cabinet meeting with opening prayer
« on: February 27, 2025, 08:35:27 PM »
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    • I know, I know...Trump is an globalist, satanist who wants the NWO.  (That's certainly possible).  But at least he's encouraging prayers at the White House.  That has to be good for somebody in attendance.  :laugh1:  The bar is so low, that a prayer in the white house gets attention.  Times are crazy.


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    Re: Trump starts first Cabinet meeting with opening prayer
    « Reply #1 on: February 27, 2025, 09:06:16 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on February 27, 2025, 08:35:27 PM
    I know, I know...Trump is an globalist, satanist who wants the NWO.  (That's certainly possible).  But at least he's encouraging prayers at the White House.  That has to be good for somebody in attendance.  :laugh1:  The bar is so low, that a prayer in the white house gets attention.  Times are crazy.


    Praying to false gods is nothing new.
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    Re: Trump starts first Cabinet meeting with opening prayer
    « Reply #2 on: February 27, 2025, 09:27:30 PM »
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    • The man doing the praying may be a material heretic, but taking it for what it is, rather than what it should be, the scene here is a far cry from, and an edifying alternative to, the secularism on which most Western democracies pride themselves.

    Try to imagine this in the UK, France, Germany, or even Canada.

    If one would prefer that prayer had not been held, well, I don't know what to tell you.
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    Re: Trump starts first Cabinet meeting with opening prayer
    « Reply #3 on: February 27, 2025, 09:41:16 PM »
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    • Quote from: SimpleMan on February 27, 2025, 09:27:30 PM
    The man doing the praying may be a material heretic, but taking it for what it is, rather than what it should be, the scene here is a far cry from, and an edifying alternative to, the secularism on which most Western democracies pride themselves.

    Try to imagine this in the UK, France, Germany, or even Canada.

    If one would prefer that prayer had not been held, well, I don't know what to tell you.
    That's how deception works.  "By their fruits you shall know them."
    https://youtu.be/GDEijeOthKA?si=hOfDjdB2m7ohNj-z
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    Re: Trump starts first Cabinet meeting with opening prayer
    « Reply #4 on: February 27, 2025, 10:12:44 PM »
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    • Quote from: Michelle on February 27, 2025, 09:41:16 PM
    That's how deception works.  "By their fruits you shall know them."
    https://youtu.be/GDEijeOthKA?si=hOfDjdB2m7ohNj-z

    Trump seems to be pretty much a complete illiterate where religion is concerned, but as to the man who offered the prayer, HUD Secretary Scott Turner, he is, among other things, the associate pastor at a Baptist place of worship.  So even though he is, as I said, a material heretic, I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt, and assume that his heart was in the right place.
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    Re: Trump starts first Cabinet meeting with opening prayer
    « Reply #5 on: February 27, 2025, 11:17:34 PM »
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    • It’s certainly better than the prayer at the convention by the Sikh or whatever that pagan woman called upon. 
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    Re: Trump starts first Cabinet meeting with opening prayer
    « Reply #6 on: February 28, 2025, 07:29:05 AM »
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    The man doing the praying may be a material heretic, but taking it for what it is, rather than what it should be, the scene here is a far cry from, and an edifying alternative to, the secularism on which most Western democracies pride themselves.

    Try to imagine this in the UK, France, Germany, or even Canada.

    If one would prefer that prayer had not been held, well, I don't know what to tell you.
    Exactly.  I thought it was respectful, thankful and specific...asking for help with the particular govt duties.


    Most of Catholic prayer is "scripted" (i.e. we have so many Church-composed prayers) that we tend to think it "odd" or "protestant" to go "off script" and talk to God openly about a particular situation.  But there's nothing wrong with it, if done personally and at a non-church function.  
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    Re: Trump starts first Cabinet meeting with opening prayer
    « Reply #7 on: February 28, 2025, 07:56:35 AM »
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    • Quote from: SimpleMan on February 27, 2025, 09:27:30 PM
    The man doing the praying may be a material heretic, but taking it for what it is, rather than what it should be, the scene here is a far cry from, and an edifying alternative to, the secularism on which most Western democracies pride themselves.

    Try to imagine this in the UK, France, Germany, or even Canada.

    If one would prefer that prayer had not been held, well, I don't know what to tell you.
    Wouldn't that be the Kayfabe of it all, though?
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    Re: Trump starts first Cabinet meeting with opening prayer
    « Reply #8 on: February 28, 2025, 08:35:38 AM »
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    • Quote from: Everlast22 on February 28, 2025, 07:56:35 AM
    Wouldn't that be the Kayfabe of it all, though?

    Not clear what you mean here.  I know what "kayfabe" means (pretending that a scripted performance is real), but I don't see how that applies here.
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    Re: Trump starts first Cabinet meeting with opening prayer
    « Reply #9 on: February 28, 2025, 08:51:04 AM »
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    • Quote from: SimpleMan on February 28, 2025, 08:35:38 AM
    Not clear what you mean here.  I know what "kayfabe" means (pretending that a scripted performance is real), but I don't see how that applies here.
    I guess what I'm saying is here, is that the prayer thing is facade.

    I can't do the "take what we can get" thing anymore. I'm not saying anyone who thinks this is a good thing is wrong, I'm just more of a big picture guy.

    I'm just tired of being called a "blackpiller". (not by you, just in general by people who are burying their head in the sand on this guy). I have (rightfully so) no faith at all in this country's leadership until the Jєωs/Zionists are literally expelled.
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    Re: Trump starts first Cabinet meeting with opening prayer
    « Reply #10 on: February 28, 2025, 09:21:55 AM »
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    I guess what I'm saying is here, is that the prayer thing is facade....I have (rightfully so) no faith at all in this country's leadership until the Jєωs/Zionists are literally expelled.
    I get what you're saying but things have changed.  Back in the 80s/90s, the main zionists were all globalists.  But protestantism has been infiltrated with zionist/pro-Israel views, so that the 'avg joe protestant' is now a zionist because a) they support Israel for religious reasons, b) they support Israel for political reasons (i.e. we must save our 'religious brethren's homeland'.

    'Zionism' is a very general term now and applies to millions and millions of protestants.  Now there are a large % of protestants (just like novus ordo catholics) who just pay lip-service to religion.  But even devout protestants support Israel.

    So just because a protestant is a zionist does not mean they are some nefarious, political, secret agent of the NWO.  It just means that all those 'tv preachers' which started in the 70s/80s did their job -- they brainwashed protestants to support Israel.

    The point being, it could've been a devout prayer, from a devout guy, who sincerely believes that protecting Israel is a good thing.  He's still a heretic, but his natural intentions could be good.  This makes the whole situation very cloudy.
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    Re: Trump starts first Cabinet meeting with opening prayer
    « Reply #11 on: February 28, 2025, 09:54:58 AM »
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    • Quote from: Everlast22 on February 28, 2025, 08:51:04 AM
    I guess what I'm saying is here, is that the prayer thing is facade.

    I can't do the "take what we can get" thing anymore. I'm not saying anyone who thinks this is a good thing is wrong, I'm just more of a big picture guy.

    I'm just tired of being called a "blackpiller". (not by you, just in general by people who are burying their head in the sand on this guy). I have (rightfully so) no faith at all in this country's leadership until the Jєωs/Zionists are literally expelled.
    Again, I'm not going to second-guess Mr Scott's bona fides, nor that of the others who were there, some of whom (such as JD Vance) can be seen making the Sign of the Cross.  What Trump was thinking, no one can know, he may not know himself.
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    Re: Trump starts first Cabinet meeting with opening prayer
    « Reply #12 on: February 28, 2025, 10:03:32 AM »
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    It’s certainly better than the prayer at the convention by the Sikh or whatever that pagan woman called upon.
    Right.  But I think the Republican movement is going in the direction of a new-age, one-world-religion, all-religions-are-equal NWO.  Everyone will be "happy" and there will be "peace and security".  But then, many prophecies say, all hell breaks loose for WW3.

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    What Trump was thinking, no one can know, he may not know himself.
    Trump needs these protestants behind him so he can get peace in the Middle East and help Israel re-build the 3rd temple.  The one-world-religion is a key part of all of this.  Because they think it will lead to antichrist.  And the stupid protestants KNOW it will, but they think they'll be "raptured" out of the mess and then Christ will come again.  That's their fairy-tale. 

    But Trump only cares about peace in the Middle East.  He might also (personally) be against the blood-sucking, psychopathic, satanist Dems.  There ARE divisions in satan's army.  They DO fight among each other.  They are NOT all on the same page.  As we pray in the "Holy Face" prayers, we ask Our Lord to "split them up by disagreements".
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    Re: Trump starts first Cabinet meeting with opening prayer
    « Reply #13 on: March 01, 2025, 11:09:24 AM »
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    • Quote from: Michelle on February 27, 2025, 09:41:16 PM
    That's how deception works.  "By their fruits you shall know them."
    https://youtu.be/GDEijeOthKA?si=hOfDjdB2m7ohNj-z
    Let’s see:
    More babies born thanks to SC Judges appointed by Trump.
    No more federal funds used to promote gender ideology.
    No more LGBTQI in the military.
    No more FBI investigations of PTA parents objecting to LGBTQI and Traditional Catholics
    90 to 95% decrease in the flood of terrorists, bloodthirsty gangs, drug warlords allowed into US.
    No more sex-trafficked children and women; no more children handed out to strangers (many of whom turned out to be pedophiles, pederasts or disappeared).
    No more pretending to work, nor paying “workers” who may not exist.
    No more LGBTQI in the military.
    No more birthright citizenship.
    No more fancy Manhattan hotels with three free meals and spending more for illegals
    We are now deporting illegals.
    We withdrew from the Paris Climate Agreement.
    We withdrew from the evil WHO.
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    Re: Trump starts first Cabinet meeting with opening prayer
    « Reply #14 on: March 01, 2025, 11:34:58 AM »
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    • Quote from: Cera on March 01, 2025, 11:09:24 AM
    No more LGBTQI in the military.

    Actually, so far as I am aware, only "transgender" people are excluded from the military.  All of the other variants are still permitted to serve.

    Even putting aside the religious or moral aspect of it, people who have been mutilated in this fashion require ongoing medication, and often other medical care, that is incompatible with active duty service, especially in the recruiting and basic training stage, where peak physical condition is imperative.
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