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Traditional Catholic Faith => Politics and World Leaders => Topic started by: Pax Vobis on February 27, 2025, 08:35:27 PM
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I know, I know...Trump is an globalist, satanist who wants the NWO. (That's certainly possible). But at least he's encouraging prayers at the White House. That has to be good for somebody in attendance. :laugh1: The bar is so low, that a prayer in the white house gets attention. Times are crazy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r47uXU448KE
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I know, I know...Trump is an globalist, satanist who wants the NWO. (That's certainly possible). But at least he's encouraging prayers at the White House. That has to be good for somebody in attendance. :laugh1: The bar is so low, that a prayer in the white house gets attention. Times are crazy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r47uXU448KE
Praying to false gods is nothing new.
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The man doing the praying may be a material heretic, but taking it for what it is, rather than what it should be, the scene here is a far cry from, and an edifying alternative to, the secularism on which most Western democracies pride themselves.
Try to imagine this in the UK, France, Germany, or even Canada.
If one would prefer that prayer had not been held, well, I don't know what to tell you.
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The man doing the praying may be a material heretic, but taking it for what it is, rather than what it should be, the scene here is a far cry from, and an edifying alternative to, the secularism on which most Western democracies pride themselves.
Try to imagine this in the UK, France, Germany, or even Canada.
If one would prefer that prayer had not been held, well, I don't know what to tell you.
That's how deception works. "By their fruits you shall know them."
https://youtu.be/GDEijeOthKA?si=hOfDjdB2m7ohNj-z
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That's how deception works. "By their fruits you shall know them."
https://youtu.be/GDEijeOthKA?si=hOfDjdB2m7ohNj-z
Trump seems to be pretty much a complete illiterate where religion is concerned, but as to the man who offered the prayer, HUD Secretary Scott Turner, he is, among other things, the associate pastor at a Baptist place of worship. So even though he is, as I said, a material heretic, I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt, and assume that his heart was in the right place.
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It’s certainly better than the prayer at the convention by the Sikh or whatever that pagan woman called upon.
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The man doing the praying may be a material heretic, but taking it for what it is, rather than what it should be, the scene here is a far cry from, and an edifying alternative to, the secularism on which most Western democracies pride themselves.
Try to imagine this in the UK, France, Germany, or even Canada.
If one would prefer that prayer had not been held, well, I don't know what to tell you.
Exactly. I thought it was respectful, thankful and specific...asking for help with the particular govt duties.
Most of Catholic prayer is "scripted" (i.e. we have so many Church-composed prayers) that we tend to think it "odd" or "protestant" to go "off script" and talk to God openly about a particular situation. But there's nothing wrong with it, if done personally and at a non-church function.
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The man doing the praying may be a material heretic, but taking it for what it is, rather than what it should be, the scene here is a far cry from, and an edifying alternative to, the secularism on which most Western democracies pride themselves.
Try to imagine this in the UK, France, Germany, or even Canada.
If one would prefer that prayer had not been held, well, I don't know what to tell you.
Wouldn't that be the Kayfabe of it all, though?
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Wouldn't that be the Kayfabe of it all, though?
Not clear what you mean here. I know what "kayfabe" means (pretending that a scripted performance is real), but I don't see how that applies here.
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Not clear what you mean here. I know what "kayfabe" means (pretending that a scripted performance is real), but I don't see how that applies here.
I guess what I'm saying is here, is that the prayer thing is facade.
I can't do the "take what we can get" thing anymore. I'm not saying anyone who thinks this is a good thing is wrong, I'm just more of a big picture guy.
I'm just tired of being called a "blackpiller". (not by you, just in general by people who are burying their head in the sand on this guy). I have (rightfully so) no faith at all in this country's leadership until the Jєωs/Zionists are literally expelled.
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I guess what I'm saying is here, is that the prayer thing is facade....I have (rightfully so) no faith at all in this country's leadership until the Jєωs/Zionists are literally expelled.
I get what you're saying but things have changed. Back in the 80s/90s, the main zionists were all globalists. But protestantism has been infiltrated with zionist/pro-Israel views, so that the 'avg joe protestant' is now a zionist because a) they support Israel for religious reasons, b) they support Israel for political reasons (i.e. we must save our 'religious brethren's homeland'.
'Zionism' is a very general term now and applies to millions and millions of protestants. Now there are a large % of protestants (just like novus ordo catholics) who just pay lip-service to religion. But even devout protestants support Israel.
So just because a protestant is a zionist does not mean they are some nefarious, political, secret agent of the NWO. It just means that all those 'tv preachers' which started in the 70s/80s did their job -- they brainwashed protestants to support Israel.
The point being, it could've been a devout prayer, from a devout guy, who sincerely believes that protecting Israel is a good thing. He's still a heretic, but his natural intentions could be good. This makes the whole situation very cloudy.
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I guess what I'm saying is here, is that the prayer thing is facade.
I can't do the "take what we can get" thing anymore. I'm not saying anyone who thinks this is a good thing is wrong, I'm just more of a big picture guy.
I'm just tired of being called a "blackpiller". (not by you, just in general by people who are burying their head in the sand on this guy). I have (rightfully so) no faith at all in this country's leadership until the Jєωs/Zionists are literally expelled.
Again, I'm not going to second-guess Mr Scott's bona fides, nor that of the others who were there, some of whom (such as JD Vance) can be seen making the Sign of the Cross. What Trump was thinking, no one can know, he may not know himself.
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It’s certainly better than the prayer at the convention by the Sikh or whatever that pagan woman called upon.
Right. But I think the Republican movement is going in the direction of a new-age, one-world-religion, all-religions-are-equal NWO. Everyone will be "happy" and there will be "peace and security". But then, many prophecies say, all hell breaks loose for WW3.
What Trump was thinking, no one can know, he may not know himself.
Trump needs these protestants behind him so he can get peace in the Middle East and help Israel re-build the 3rd temple. The one-world-religion is a key part of all of this. Because they think it will lead to antichrist. And the stupid protestants KNOW it will, but they think they'll be "raptured" out of the mess and then Christ will come again. That's their fairy-tale.
But Trump only cares about peace in the Middle East. He might also (personally) be against the blood-sucking, psychopathic, satanist Dems. There ARE divisions in satan's army. They DO fight among each other. They are NOT all on the same page. As we pray in the "Holy Face" prayers, we ask Our Lord to "split them up by disagreements".
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That's how deception works. "By their fruits you shall know them."
https://youtu.be/GDEijeOthKA?si=hOfDjdB2m7ohNj-z
Let’s see:
More babies born thanks to SC Judges appointed by Trump.
No more federal funds used to promote gender ideology.
No more LGBTQI in the military.
No more FBI investigations of PTA parents objecting to LGBTQI and Traditional Catholics
90 to 95% decrease in the flood of terrorists, bloodthirsty gangs, drug warlords allowed into US.
No more sex-trafficked children and women; no more children handed out to strangers (many of whom turned out to be pedophiles, pederasts or disappeared).
No more pretending to work, nor paying “workers” who may not exist.
No more LGBTQI in the military.
No more birthright citizenship.
No more fancy Manhattan hotels with three free meals and spending more for illegals
We are now deporting illegals.
We withdrew from the Paris Climate Agreement.
We withdrew from the evil WHO.
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No more LGBTQI in the military.
Actually, so far as I am aware, only "transgender" people are excluded from the military. All of the other variants are still permitted to serve.
Even putting aside the religious or moral aspect of it, people who have been mutilated in this fashion require ongoing medication, and often other medical care, that is incompatible with active duty service, especially in the recruiting and basic training stage, where peak physical condition is imperative.
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Illegal immigration will continue as long as the rot on both sides still exists. The cartels own the Mexican government (https://www.propublica.org/article/mexico-amlo-lopez-obrador-campaign-drug-cartels), Americans buy their drugs, and neither side wants to do anything to stop it.
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Most of Catholic prayer is "scripted" (i.e. we have so many Church-composed prayers) that we tend to think it "odd" or "protestant" to go "off script" and talk to God openly about a particular situation. But there's nothing wrong with it, if done personally and at a non-church function.
It's one thing to go off-the-cuff praying, but the evangelical stream-of-conscious prayer punctuated with random repetitions of "Father", "God Father", "Lord", etc. sprinkled throughout seems silly at best, and irreverent at worst. It's the prayer equivalent of an impromptu drive-thru order, complete with an "um" every other word. And maybe it's just me, but these prayers seem overly dramatic and done for spectacle.
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Marco Rubio signed himself at the end.
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It's one thing to go off-the-cuff praying, but the evangelical stream-of-conscious prayer punctuated with random repetitions of "Father", "God Father", "Lord", etc. sprinkled throughout seems silly at best, and irreverent at worst.
Agree. I've heard both silly versions and over-the-top versions of protty prayers. But in those cases, I think the people were well-intentioned, normal people.
It's the prayer equivalent of an impromptu drive-thru order, complete with an "um" every other word. And maybe it's just me, but these prayers seem overly dramatic and done for spectacle.
Some are done for spectacle, for sure. I think the "dramatic" is done on purpose, because it gives (in their mind) more "gravitas" to the prayer. To be fair, many Catholic prayers are quite dramatic too.
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Marco Rubio signed himself at the end.
As did JD Vance and another Cabinet member I didn't recognize (Sean Duffy?).
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As did JD Vance and another Cabinet member I didn't recognize (Sean Duffy?).
And RFK Jr (far left of the frame).
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If their hearts are in the right place, God will still hear their prayer.
And it is good to see the sign of the cross in this situation. Just the sign of the cross is a powerful devotion.
https://www.catholictradition.org/Classics/signum-crucis.htm
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It's one thing to go off-the-cuff praying, but the evangelical stream-of-conscious prayer punctuated with random repetitions of "Father", "God Father", "Lord", etc. sprinkled throughout seems silly at best, and irreverent at worst. It's the prayer equivalent of an impromptu drive-thru order, complete with an "um" every other word. And maybe it's just me, but these prayers seem overly dramatic and done for spectacle.
That is probably an aspect of black spirituality and worship. It tends to be quite emotive.
I'd take it at face value as a sign of respect.
After all, in the rosary, we repeat the Hail Mary 53 times, we don't say it just once.
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World leaders, aka iws, take the perennialist position in public life. They need this mass of "goys" to work for them. They know this mass of "goys" can't be iwish, so they have to give lip service to various moral systems important to gentiles. That's all this prayer service is about.
At the end of the day, these people think they are racially superior to you. But iwish women can mate with men of any hue and their offspring will still be considered fully iwish. These different-hued "leaders" we see are pretty much all iws.
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Illegal immigration will continue as long as the rot on both sides still exists. The cartels own the Mexican government (https://www.propublica.org/article/mexico-amlo-lopez-obrador-campaign-drug-cartels), Americans buy their drugs, and neither side wants to do anything to stop it.
Maybe you are unaware of the fact that the reason Trump is threatening Mexico with 25% tarriff on all their products exported to the U.S. is to force the Mexican govenrment to regain control of the cartels and end the flood of drugs. Illegal border crossings are now reduced by 94%.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-crossings-u-s-mexico-border-down-94-percent-border-patrol-chief-says/