Author Topic: Trump snubs Fox debate to meet his masters (Read 3962 times)

rum · « **Reply #15 on:** March 21, 2016, 06:17:33 AM »

No, my vanity is pretty strong, but I'm against him because he's . . . a friend of zionist Israel

That's a good reason to be against Trump, but, based on what I know about you, I don't believe that's the reason you're against him. Since all politicians are submissive to Jews you should just tell people not to take part in the political process -- the Catholic confessional state or nothing. That's what I would say. If I voted for Trump it would purely be for particular issues and not because I believe he's a bellwether for the overthrow of Jєωιѕн power.

Please, give some more of your slow-pitch, softball questions. I like em.

Did you like my comment on this thread?

You never bothered to answer, even though you started off the thread daring people to find any holes in the non-evidential information you provided from the Jew Henry Makow that Trump is a mason.

Makow uses this caption next to the picture:

Left, Donald and his father Fred with Masonic/Brotherhood of Death hand-over-hand Skull and Bones ("X") Signal. The sign, or letter X, has a long history of use in the Ancient Mystery Religions, in apostate Judaism, in Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, and in the Occult. The ILLUMINATI elite use it to this day to symbolize key phenomena and mark significant events.

But doesn't bother to indicate that the symbol has been most likely photoshopped.

I've always thought you and Mark79 give off a queer vibe, but the deal was sealed in your case when you popped up on the Curse of Ham thread and ingratiated yourself with two of the biggest frauds on the forum.

You're not against Trump for Catholic reasons.

No, my vanity is pretty strong

Incredulous · « **Reply #16 on:** March 21, 2016, 09:37:48 AM »

Rum,

I think you're reading too much into our posts?

But in you're following quote, you given us evidence that you've fallen into despair:

"Since all politicians are submissive to Jews you should just tell people not to take part in the political process -- the Catholic confessional state or nothing. That's what I would say. If I voted for Trump it would purely be for particular issues and not because I believe he's a bellwether for the overthrow of Jєωιѕн power. "

How do you extrapolate avoidance of the Sacrament of Penance with my Trump posts?

And Trump, the icon of judaic materialism and braggadocio, what political issues will he handle for you?

His presence on the national stage is clearly judaic show-biz, and as John Lennon figured out, a pure extension of their unholy judaic religion

Sorry, but I don't get your logic?

There's still hope, and realizing the "jew political game" is our first step to overthrowing them.

PS Are you an xSPX supporter? Just asking.

Incredulous · « **Reply #17 on:** March 21, 2016, 10:45:53 AM »

Quote from: Graham

It doesn't matter what he says to them, because he's so immoral that we can't believe anything he says. If he expresses support for Israel we have no way to know if he means it. He could easily mean the opposite and just be saying what they want to hear.

... is what some people should be saying if they're self-consistent.

I'm not expecting a great speech here but it will be better than what Cruz would say in his place. Cruz would grovel and simper the whole time and we all know it. With Trump there's at least a possibility of some halfway decent statements.

I'm not familiar with the precedence of political candidates addressing AIPAC?

Is it customary for all political candidates to go before the AIPAC thrown and pledge their allegiance and submission to Israel?

If not, I would think Trump's "substantive" speech may be a candidate for the "Halls of Infamy" for an American sell-out of his country to a foreign power.

I'm more familiar with American political candidates and modernist popes praying to the jew's phoney Temple, "Wailing Wall"

If you watch the following expose, you'll never look at the "Wailing Wall" the same:

Wailing Wall is from Roman Fort Antonia, not the Temple

Graham · « **Reply #18 on:** March 21, 2016, 05:08:48 PM »

Well it looks like they're all there tonight, so there's your "precedence." We get a side-by-side comparison, and I'm confident Trump will emerge the least simpering.

Incredulous · « **Reply #19 on:** March 21, 2016, 06:07:53 PM »

Here's Trump's AIPAC speech video. Transcript below:

"Let's Make Israel Great Again"

He focused on derailing the Iran nuclear accord and forcefully reiterated Israel's lies about her enemies.

He'll break the "culture of hate" in Palestine and Iran and move the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.

Pandering? Trump has no shame at all.

He loves Israel, is buds with Bibi and is having a jew-grand-baby this week to prove his sincerity.

The speech was nothing less, than a zionist-love-fest.

Here's a full transcript of the candidate's remarks.

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, his party’s front runner for the nomination, addressed the American Israel Public Affairs Committee Monday, discussing relations between the U.S. and Israel. A complete transcript of his remarks follows.

Good evening. I speak to you today as a lifelong supporter and true friend of Israel. I am a newcomer to politics but not to backing the Jєωιѕн state.

In late 2001, weeks after the attacks on New York City and Washington – attacks perpetrated by Islamic fundamentalists, Mayor Giuliani visited Israel to show solidarity with terror victims. I sent him in my plane because I backed the mission 100%.

In Spring 2004, at the height of violence in the Gaza Strip, I was the Grand Marshal of the 40th Salute to Israel Parade, the largest single gathering in support of the Jєωιѕн state.
It was a very dangerous time for Israel and frankly for anyone supporting Israel – many people turned down this honor –I did not, I took the risk.

I didn’t come here tonight to pander to you about Israel. That’s what politicians do: all talk, no action. I came here to speak to you about where I stand on the future of American relations with our strategic ally, our unbreakable friendship, and our cultural brother, the only democracy in the Middle East, the State of Israel.

My number one priority is to dismantle the disastrous deal with Iran. I have been in business a long time. I know deal-making and let me tell you, this deal is catastrophic – for America, for Israel, and for the whole Middle East.

The problem here is fundamental. We have rewarded the world’s leading state sponsor of terror with $150 billion and we received absolutely nothing in return.
I’ve studied this issue in greater detail than almost anybody. The biggest concern with the deal is not necessarily that Iran is going to violate it, although it already has, the bigger problem is that they can keep the terms and still get to the bomb by simply running out the clock, and, of course, they keep the billions.

The deal doesn’t even require Iran to dismantle its military nuclear capability! Yes, it places limits on its military nuclear program for only a certain number of years. But when those restrictions expire, Iran will have an industrial-size military nuclear capability ready to go, and with zero provision for delay no matter how bad Iran’s behavior is. When I am president, I will adopt a strategy that focuses on three things when it comes to Iran.

First, we will stand up to Iran’s aggressive push to destabilize and dominate the region. Iran is a very big problem and will continue to be, but if I’m elected President, I know how to deal with trouble. Iran is a problem in Iraq, a problem in Syria, a problem in Lebanon, a problem in Yemen, and will be a very major problem for Saudi Arabia. Literally every day, Iran provides more and better weapons to their puppet states.

Hezbollah in Lebanon has received sophisticated anti-ship weapons, anti-aircraft weapons, and GPS systems on rockets. Now they’re in Syria trying to establish another front against Israel from the Syrian side of the Golan Heights.

In Gaza, Iran is supporting Hamas and Islamic Jihad – and in the West Bank they are openly offering Palestinians $7,000 per terror attack and $30,000 for every Palestinian terrorist’s home that’s been destroyed.

Iran is financing military forces throughout the Middle East and it is absolutely indefensible that we handed them over $150 billion to facilitate even more acts of terror.
Secondly, we will totally dismantle Iran’s global terror network. Iran has seeded terror groups all over the world. During the last five years, Iran has perpetrated terror attacks in 25 different countries on five continents. They’ve got terror cells everywhere, including in the western hemisphere very close to home. Iran is the biggest sponsor of terrorism around the world and we will work to dismantle that reach.

Third, at the very least, we must hold Iran accountable by restructuring the terms of the previous deal. Iran has already – since the deal is in place – test-fired ballistic missiles three times. Those ballistic missiles, with a range of 1,250 miles, were designed to intimidate not only Israel, which is only 600 miles away but also intended to frighten Europe, and, someday, the United States.

Do you want to hear something really shocking? As many of the great people in this room know, painted on those missiles – in both Hebrew and Farsi – were the words “Israel must be wiped off the face of the earth.”

What kind of demented minds write that in Hebrew? And here’s another twisted part – testing these missiles does not even violate the horrible deal that we made!
The deal is silent on test missiles but those tests DO violate UN Security Council Resolutions. The problem is, no one has done anything about it. Which brings me to my next point – the utter weakness and incompetence of the United Nations.

The United Nations is not a friend of democracy. It’s not a friend to freedom. It’s not a friend even to the United States of America, where as all know, it has its home. And it surely isn’t a friend to Israel.

With President Obama in his final year, discussions have been swirling about an attempt to bring a security council resolution on the terms of an eventual agreement between Israel and Palestine. Let me be clear: An agreement imposed by the UN would be a total and complete disaster. The United States must oppose this resolution and use the power of our veto. Why? Because that’s not how you make a deal.

Deals are made when parties come to the table and negotiate. Each side must give up something it values in exchange for something it requires. A deal that imposes conditions on Israel and the Palestinian Authority will do nothing to bring peace. It will only further delegitimize Israel and it would reward Palestinian terrorism, because every day they are stabbing Israelis – and even Americans.

Just last week, American Taylor Allen Force, a West Point grad who served in Iraq and Afghanistan, was murdered in the street by a knife-wielding Palestinian. You don’t reward that behavior, you confront it!

It’s not up the United Nations to impose a solution. The parties must negotiate a resolution themselves. The United States can be useful as a facilitator of negotiations, but no one should be telling Israel it must abide by some agreement made by others thousands of miles away that don’t even really know what’s happening.

When I’m president, believe me, I will veto any attempt by the UN to impose its will on the Jєωιѕн state. You see, I know about deal-making – that’s what I do. I wrote The Art of the Deal, one of the all-time best-selling books about deals and deal making. To make a great deal, you need two willing participants.

We know Israel is willing to deal. Israel has been trying to sit down at the negotiating table, without pre-conditions, for years. You had Camp David in 2000, where Prime Minister Barak made an incredible offer – maybe even too generous. Arafat rejected it.
In 2008, Prime Minister Olmert made an equally generous offer. The Palestinian Authority rejected it. Then John Kerry tried to come up with a framework and Abbas didn’t even respond, not even to the Secretary of State of the United States of America!
When I become President, the days of treating Israel like a second-class citizen will end on Day One. I will meet with Prime Minister Netanyahu immediately. I have known him for many years and we will be able to work closely together to help bring stability and peace to Israel and to the entire region.

Meanwhile, every single day, you have rampant incitement and children being taught to hate Israel and hate the Jews. When you live in a society where the firefighters are the hero’s little kids want to be firefighters.

When you live in a society where athletes and movie stars are heroes, little kids want to be athletes and movie stars. In Palestinian society, the heroes are those who murder Jews – we can’t let this continue. You cannot achieve peace if terrorists are treated as martyrs. Glorifying terrorists is a tremendous barrier to peace.

In Palestinian textbooks and mosques, you’ve got a culture of hatred that has been fermenting there for years, and if we want to achieve peace, they’ve got to end this indoctrination of hatred. There is no moral equivalency. Israel does not name public squares after terrorists. Israel does not pay its children to stab random Palestinians.

You see, what President Obama gets wrong about deal making is that he constantly applies pressure to our friends and rewards our enemies. That pattern, practiced by the President and his administration, including former Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, has repeated itself over and over and has done nothing but embolden those who hate America. We saw that with releasing $150 billion to Iran in the hope that they would magically join the world community – It’s the same with Israel and Palestine.

President Obama thinks that applying pressure to Israel will force the issue, but it’s precisely the opposite. Already, half the population of Palestine has been taken over by the Palestinian ISIS in Hamas, and the other half refuses to confront the first half, so it’s a very difficult situation but when the United States stands with Israel, the chances of peace actually rise. That’s what will happen when I’m president.

We will move the American embassy to the eternal capital of the Jєωιѕн people, Jerusalem – and we will send a clear signal that there is no daylight between America and our most reliable ally, the state of Israel.

The Palestinians must come to the table knowing that the bond between the United States and Israel is unbreakable. They must come to the table willing and able to stop the terror being committed on a daily basis against Israel and they must come to the table willing to accept that Israel is a Jєωιѕн State and it will forever exist as a Jєωιѕн State.
Thank you very much, its been a great honor to be with you.

rum · « **Reply #20 on:** March 21, 2016, 06:52:54 PM »

Here's the video of the speech:

Every successful politician in the West is submissive to Jews. He calls Israel "our cultural brother." Pretty funny.

It's a ritual of presidential hopefuls and other politicians to speak at AIPAC:

Support among congressional members includes a majority of members of both the Democratic and Republican Parties. AIPAC's 2011 Policy Conference included the attendance of approximately 2/3 of the US Senate[51] and House of Representatives,[52] including President Barack Obama, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, and Speaker of the House John Boehner. The annual Policy Conference is second only to the State of the Union address for the number of federal officials in attendance at an organized event.

rum · « **Reply #21 on:** March 21, 2016, 06:55:26 PM »

Quote from: Incredulous

Rum,

I think you're reading too much into our posts?

But in you're following quote, you given us evidence that you've fallen into despair:

"Since all politicians are submissive to Jews you should just tell people not to take part in the political process -- the Catholic confessional state or nothing. That's what I would say. If I voted for Trump it would purely be for particular issues and not because I believe he's a bellwether for the overthrow of Jєωιѕн power. "

How do you extrapolate avoidance of the Sacrament of Penance with my Trump posts?

And Trump, the icon of judaic materialism and braggadocio, what political issues will he handle for you?

His presence on the national stage is clearly judaic show-biz, and as John Lennon figured out, a pure extension of their unholy judaic religion

Sorry, but I don't get your logic?

There's still hope, and realizing the "jew political game" is our first step to overthrowing them.

PS Are you an xSPX supporter? Just asking.

No I haven't fallen into despair. I merely notice that since all politicians that I'm aware of are submissive to Jews then Catholics either shouldn't vote or should vote for the lesser of two evils. I fail to see how any of Trump's competitors are better than him. I'm a confused Catholic, so I'm not a supporter of a particular group, for the time being.

I'm skeptical of your motives because you popped up on that Curse of Ham thread and ingratiated yourself with those trolls. And then you fail to reply to my post on the Makow thread where you specifically challenged people to poke holes in Makow's piece.

Trump may not accomplish any of what he claims he will accomplish, but I'd like it if he manages to nip the illegal immigration problem in the bud and bring back some industry to the United States. I have no illusions that he represents a new trend in weakening Jєωιѕн power in the West, but Jews may have to make some concessions to certain groups.

Incredulous · « **Reply #22 on:** March 21, 2016, 07:06:35 PM »

Quote from: rum

Here's the video of the speech:

Every successful politician in the West is submissive to Jews. He calls Israel "our cultural brother." Pretty funny.

It's a ritual of presidential hopefuls and other politicians to speak at AIPAC:

Support among congressional members includes a majority of members of both the Democratic and Republican Parties. AIPAC's 2011 Policy Conference included the attendance of approximately 2/3 of the US Senate[51] and House of Representatives,[52] including President Barack Obama, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, and Speaker of the House John Boehner. The annual Policy Conference is second only to the State of the Union address for the number of federal officials in attendance at an organized event.

Rum... My goodness, your totally judaized!

rum · « **Reply #23 on:** March 21, 2016, 07:56:12 PM »

How so?

Incredulous · « **Reply #24 on:** March 21, 2016, 09:37:49 PM »

Quote from: rum

How so?

You're mindset perfectly accepts the loss of American sovereignty and the control of our leaders to Israel.

Rum said:
Every successful politician in the West is submissive to Jews. He calls Israel "our cultural brother." Pretty funny. It's a ritual of presidential hopefuls and other politicians to speak at AIPAC:

Your come-on is not that of a crypto-jew, but perfectly, openly judaized.

The jews are the enemies of Jesus Christ and our Holy religion and your nonchalance about them shows where you are mentally and spiritually.

rum · « **Reply #25 on:** March 21, 2016, 10:35:41 PM »

Did you post that I'm Judaized before you figured out why I am? I get a whiff of posturing from you. You admit you're vain, and so I wonder if you're a bomb-thrower who worries after-the-fact about how to make your accusation stick.

"You're mindset perfectly accepts the loss of American sovereignty and the control of our leaders to Israel. "

Bizarre, hysterical response. I'm not nonchalant about Jєωιѕн power. I detest Jєωιѕн influence. It's merely a pragmatic assertion that I see no political figures on the horizon who present any threat to Jєωιѕн power. According to the lesser of two evils argument I hardly see how Trump is worse than the alternatives. Either don't vote or vote for someone who claims to be anti-abortion, against open borders for the US, against the US being the policeman of the world, for bringing industry back to the country.

You shouldn't be posting anti-Trump articles. It makes you look compromised. You should be a purist and tell people not to vote, or a pragmatist and say, "Look folks, all these politicians are owned by Jews. Pick the one that's the least bad."

If you can't name me any politicians who aren't submissive to the Jews, then you should just tell people not to vote.

Mark 79 · « **Reply #26 on:** March 22, 2016, 01:15:37 AM »

What have I posted about Drumpf?

• That, contrary to his myth, he is no self-made man. He used his dad's money and colluded with gangsters to make his money.

• That he stated he wants to "appear" neutral so the Palestinians will sit at the negotiating table with him while he rapes them for his Zionist pals.

• That he worships money and is not an establishment "outsider." He is the quintessential insider.

• That his electioneering and the supposed "neocon" opposition is farcical theatre for the goyim.

• That he stirs the pot of race hatred because that is what the banksters want. The dynastic banksters want all their victims fighting each other over skin color, so that nobody will notice that they are comfortable in their guarded enclaves counting their centuries of loot profiteered by ginning up gentile-against-gentile wars and economic crimes against humanity.

• That since Patricius is so hot for Drumpf and pursuing a Zionist-perpetrated bloodbath (another gentile-against-gentile affair), Patricius should join the Zionist army and stop plaguing Americans with his limey chicken hawk hypocrisy.

What have I posted about King?

• That he was a plagiarist, Communist, philanderer who destroyed the right to free association.

I went to your link and I do not remember seeing that article... ever. I am not perfect, but my memory is quite good. What about yours? Even if I had posted the article, so what? I post plenty of articles by the rabbis and that doesn't make me a damn rabbi.

As far as race issues, I recognize differences among the races and nations, but, as a Catholic, I am no racial supremacist.

Also, unless there are important ballot propositions, I am not voting. All the candidates are evil, especially in being catamites for the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan, and I refuse to vote for evil.

So much for your perspicacity, Rum. Do you ever get anything right?

Mark79/Diego

MaterDominici · « **Reply #27 on:** March 22, 2016, 01:55:56 AM »

I must commend the person on Trump's campaign who figured out a way to spin "neutral" into something AIPAC would applaud without Trump outright contradicting himself. He should give that speech writer a raise.

rum · « **Reply #28 on:** March 22, 2016, 01:26:31 PM »

My memory's pretty good. I remember it was a Martin Luther King article on American Mercury. It's the only article on the site about him. After you posted it I criticized it but you never responded.

Quote from: Mark 79

Even if I had posted the article, so what? I post plenty of articles by the rabbis and that doesn't make me a damn rabbi.

False equivalence. I objected to you posting it because you didn't say, "Hey look at this ridiculous article on Martin Luther King!"

I remember you attacking me on ABLF 1.0 for innocently inquiring whether Michael Hoffman was Catholic. Hoffman, incidentally, has lately said positive things about Trump's run on Twitter and his On the Contrary blog. I wonder if he's Judaized.

Few people are racial supremacists. Though everyone is tribal. People tend to put their own family, ethnic group, and race before other families, ethnic groups, and races.

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So much for your perspicacity, Rum. Do you ever get anything right?

Mark79/Diego

I don't know why you criticize my lack of perspicacity, since your post doesn't rebut anything I've claimed.

BTW, how does Trump foment race hatred?

Mark 79 · « **Reply #29 on:** March 22, 2016, 04:50:16 PM »

Quote from: rum

My memory's pretty good. I remember it was a Martin Luther King article on American Mercury. It's the only article on the site about him. After you posted it I criticized it but you never responded.

Quote from: Mark 79
Even if I had posted the article, so what? I post plenty of articles by the rabbis and that doesn't make me a damn rabbi.

False equivalence. I objected to you posting it because you didn't say, "Hey look at this ridiculous article on Martin Luther King!"

I remember you attacking me on ABLF 1.0 for innocently inquiring whether Michael Hoffman was Catholic. Hoffman, incidentally, has lately said positive things about Trump's run on Twitter and his On the Contrary blog. I wonder if he's Judaized.

Few people are racial supremacists. Though everyone is tribal. People tend to put their own family, ethnic group, and race before other families, ethnic groups, and races.

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So much for your perspicacity, Rum. Do you ever get anything right?

Mark79/Diego

I don't know why you criticize my lack of perspicacity, since your post doesn't rebut anything I've claimed.

BTW, how does Trump foment race hatred?

(1) I stated unequivocally that I reject King. The analogy is correct; I post objectionable commentary from rabbis and Bergoglio for the record without a disclaimer. I am not obligated to imitate your style. You are not the king (pun intended). Deal with it.

There is nothing perspicacious about someone who imagines the world works according to their arbitrary and personal rules.

(2) Anyone, you included, who thinks that Hoffman is Judaized needs their head examined. I suppose you can print up your very own subpoena to bring him to your inquisition. Maybe you could hold your very own little synod, even check his skin's melanin content. Your hyper-vigilance is now duly noted.

There is nothing perspicacious about someone who imagines that Hoffman is Judaized. 'Scuuze me while I guffaw at your gutbustingly funny musing.

(3) I don't know you (or care about you) enough to have catalogued/archived your idiosyncrasies. On the basis of a non-sequitur, you imagined that Incredulous and I are not white. Both of us are so white (we have been good friends for about 20 years) that we could each get sunburned at midnight walking across the lawn to the car.

There is nothing perspicacious about someone who imagines that Incredulous and I are not white.

So much for your perspicacity, Rum. Do you ever get anything right?