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Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2024, 05:40:44 PM »
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    • I don't care who anyone votes for. They are just two lesser demons controlled by Satan. Take your pick. Kamala is a communist floozy that can barely speak, and Trump is a carnival barker that prays to the soul of Rebbi Schneerson in hell. 

    Let me ask you this. Were the "republicans" able to fix the fraudulent voting practices? Will there still be mail-in voting ? What happened to the Dominion lawsuits? Will there be ANYTHING different as far as licit voting going on this time as opposed to 2020?
     All I keep hearing is that Trump has to win by a supermajority to overide the fraud. All this tells me is that 4 years have passed and nothing was done except for pillowman to give me a special on sheets.
    There is no excuse for this other than to keep the spectacle alive, and it sure is that.

    Anyone who thinks that Trump actually has your interests in mind, is well, out of theirs.

    The only reason I pick on Trump over Kamala is obvious. Trump is taking good people into such a state of compromise morally that I wonder what if anything he does will deter them- Abortion- OK, Melania- well that was a set up, IVF ,Gaza , LGBT somehow people have no problem overlooking these things because it's Trump. I can't. 
     This is just a trap for your soul.
    Trump isn't the swamp- he is quicksand.
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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #16 on: October 17, 2024, 06:11:14 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on October 17, 2024, 04:37:50 PM
    Trump is not a king.  He can't just sign executive orders for any topic he chooses.  :facepalm:
    Yes-
    He can. Wars have been executed on Executive Orders. They can be subject to judicial review but rarely are. 
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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #17 on: October 17, 2024, 07:52:16 PM »
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    • Quote from: josefamenendez on October 17, 2024, 04:17:12 PM
    "We don't want transgender operations without parental consent"

    whaaaa???
    You don't think this means Trump allows it WITH parental consent??? Somehow you are good with that?

     I don't need Trump derangement syndrome to spot evil . It's pretty blatant.
     

    Josefa..did you see my post above?  Trump's platform specifically says it wants to stop public schools from promoting gender transition.  Doesn't that imply that he is against Trans operations for children?
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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #18 on: October 17, 2024, 08:43:42 PM »
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    Wars have been executed on Executive Orders.
    Right, because the President has executive powers, as head of the Military.


    But the President doesn't have executive powers to stop people from buying milk or to tell doctors what they can and can't do in their own hospitals.  You need a civics lesson.
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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #19 on: October 17, 2024, 08:44:30 PM »
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    • This transgender insanity just didn't pop into the minds of young people out of the blue. It has been 
    disseminated by the usual people whom Trump grovels before. He will tell his gullible followers 
    one thing one day and another thing the next day. Meanwhile his good friend Larry Fink of Blackrock
    will continue the woke/DEI/tranny/homo rot in every corporation his hairy claw controls. 
    What's it going to take to make you people understand?
    The satanic elite know they will get pushback for their aggressive agenda so they get the orange
    buffoon to be the controlled, ineffective opposition. 
    How can you pretend to fight something so massive and insidious, with unlimited funds without even
    being able to name it? Trump can't name the source because he works for it, has given his very soul over to it.
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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #20 on: October 17, 2024, 08:49:01 PM »
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    • If Trump is for/against something/anything, then why won’t he just come out and say it instead of mincing words? If his position was crystal clear there wouldn’t be anyone saying “well he really meant this…or that…” but instead it’s talking in circles trying to play both sides. At the end of the day, we’re all being played!
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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #21 on: October 17, 2024, 09:07:13 PM »
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    The satanic elite know they will get pushback for their aggressive agenda so they get the orange

    buffoon to be the controlled, ineffective opposition.
    Of course, Trump is somewhat controlled.  But that’s an advantage to us because it buys us time.  The pushback is a good thing; you act like it’s bad. ??  The slower the elites have to go with their plans, the shorter will be their time of triumph, as the year 2029 comes closer, so does Our Lady’s victory.  And they know it.

    Controlled opposition is not all bad.  In the grand scheme of things, I cant change the course of politics by one inch, so I thank God for controlled opposition which is a blessing, in a sense.  It’s better than having a Lenin or Stalin in charge and bring thrown into prison tomorrow.
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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #22 on: October 17, 2024, 09:40:36 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on October 17, 2024, 09:07:13 PM
    Of course, Trump is somewhat controlled.  But that’s an advantage to us because it buys us time.  The pushback is a good thing; you act like it’s bad. ??  The slower the elites have to go with their plans, the shorter will be their time of triumph, as the year 2029 comes closer, so does Our Lady’s victory.  And they know it.

    Controlled opposition is not all bad.  In the grand scheme of things, I cant change the course of politics by one inch, so I thank God for controlled opposition which is a blessing, in a sense.  It’s better than having a Lenin or Stalin in charge and bring thrown into prison tomorrow.
    I think the only thing buying us time is a combination of enough Catholics saying the rosary(our only remaining weapon according to Sister Lucia) and the elites still refining AI to operate their central bank digital currency/biometric surveillance beast system. 
    The Red Sea pedestrians have never had this much full spectrum dominance across the economy, media, academia, politics. Nor has the public ever been thoroughly brainwashed. They aren't going to waste this opportunity. I think they jumped the gun a bit with the covid pandemic. That was their attempt to partially roll out some elements of the system, acclimate the public to it, study the reaction. 
    Virtually no one in conspiracy circles saw the Covid thing coming, despite some predictive programming in movies.
    The fact that they could essentially shut down the world demonstrated how deeply they penetrated every government from top to bottom. 
    Those at the highest level are working in accordance with some kabbalistic timetable to usher in their savage messiah. 
    2030 seems to be the date that is set by those lovely folks at the World Economic Forum

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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #23 on: October 18, 2024, 08:28:59 AM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on October 17, 2024, 07:52:16 PM
    Josefa..did you see my post above?  Trump's platform specifically says it wants to stop public schools from promoting gender transition.  Doesn't that imply that he is against Trans operations for children?
    It's like saying " I'm against cutting off your kid's arms, unless they have parental permission"

    Some things are just objectively wrong and need more than a "weak" nod that maybe it's not a "good idea" ( and that's the extent of his involvement here)

    It's no different than saying that getting an abortion for a teenager is acceptable with parental permission.  While the parental permission is warranted for any minor surgery, it does not nullify the evil of the act.  Trump is moving the Overton window step by step.
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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #24 on: October 18, 2024, 08:50:25 AM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on October 17, 2024, 08:43:42 PM
    Right, because the President has executive powers, as head of the Military.


    But the President doesn't have executive powers to stop people from buying milk or to tell doctors what they can and can't do in their own hospitals.  You need a civics lesson.
    I've looked everywhere and I CANNOT find where executive orders are limited to specific areas ( miltary etc) They ARE subject to judicial review and can be vetoed by Congress. Obama made many Mental Health initiatives by executive order. Please provide information that shows me that a president could NOT at least put a moratorium on transgender surgeries for minors.


    Limits on Executive Orders
    Executive orders are not unchecked strokes of power from the president's pen; they can be challenged and deemed unlawful by federal courts. In fact, the U.S. Supreme Court determined during the Korean War that executive orders must fit within a certain sphere of power and cannot simply defy Congressional intent.
    Although this area of law remains in flux, executive orders have the most legitimacy when the president is acting with the implied or express authority of Congress. However, these executive orders may still legally shape policy if the laws or Congress have been silent on an issue.

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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #25 on: October 18, 2024, 09:11:56 AM »
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    Please provide information that shows me that a president could NOT at least put a moratorium on transgender surgeries for minors.
    If the president could do pretty much anything by executive order, you don’t think Obama would’ve outlawed 90% of guns?  He wanted to, but couldn’t.  Because that’s not how our govt works.  Executive orders are for powers ALREADY POSSESSED BY THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH.  An executive order cannot legislate new laws/rules or judicate/decide legal battles.  Because these are outside the powers of the executive branch. 
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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #26 on: October 18, 2024, 09:21:18 AM »
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    • Quote from: josefamenendez on October 18, 2024, 08:28:59 AM
    It's like saying " I'm against cutting off your kid's arms, unless they have parental permission"

    Some things are just objectively wrong and need more than a "weak" nod that maybe it's not a "good idea" ( and that's the extent of his involvement here)

    It's no different than saying that getting an abortion for a teenager is acceptable with parental permission.  While the parental permission is warranted for any minor surgery, it does not nullify the evil of the act.  Trump is moving the Overton window step by step.
    I understand and agree that it would be much better if things were EXPLICITLY said, but the only politicians I know who were explicit in social issues such as these were "social conservatives", and they never got nominated let alone elected.  In previous elections prior to 2016 when I didn't vote at all, I always voted in the primaries for the social conservative but was always left with the social moderates to vote for in the election.
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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #27 on: October 18, 2024, 09:52:50 AM »
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    • Quote from: josefamenendez on October 17, 2024, 05:40:44 PM
    I don't care who anyone votes for. They are just two lesser demons controlled by Satan. Take your pick. Kamala is a communist floozy that can barely speak, and Trump is a carnival barker that prays to the soul of Rebbi Schneerson in hell.

    Let me ask you this. Were the "republicans" able to fix the fraudulent voting practices? Will there still be mail-in voting ? What happened to the Dominion lawsuits? Will there be ANYTHING different as far as licit voting going on this time as opposed to 2020?
     All I keep hearing is that Trump has to win by a supermajority to overide the fraud. All this tells me is that 4 years have passed and nothing was done except for pillowman to give me a special on sheets.
    There is no excuse for this other than to keep the spectacle alive, and it sure is that.

    Anyone who thinks that Trump actually has your interests in mind, is well, out of theirs.

    The only reason I pick on Trump over Kamala is obvious. Trump is taking good people into such a state of compromise morally that I wonder what if anything he does will deter them- Abortion- OK, Melania- well that was a set up, IVF ,Gaza , LGBT somehow people have no problem overlooking these things because it's Trump. I can't.
     This is just a trap for your soul.
    Trump isn't the swamp- he is quicksand.
    Very well put. Trump socialized for decades with Epstein, Maxwell, the Clintons, Adelsons, etc and had no problem whatsoever with their policies or sɛҳuąƖ proclivities as he likely shared in both. He was mentored by none other than Roy Cohen, the Epstein of his era, and boasts about being the biggest gentile Zionist(shabbos goy) on the planet. 
    Most of his grandchildren are Jєωιѕн and will inherit his empire. He has hitched his wagon to the joos because he wants his dynasty and brand to flourish in the world they presently control and the one they are fashioning for their messiah. He is not a deep or thoughtful man, rather a vain, shallow narcissist of the first order. 
    During his first year as president I cut the man some slack given that he was new to politics and how DC worked. Then came one horrendous cabinet pick after another, but never to this day showing any humility, admitting to any mistake, always playing the victim. In reality though they were the right picks because he always had an excuse for why he couldn't get anything done. But hey, we did get lowest black unemployment ever!
    Just as during the Bolshevik revolution and its aftermath there were contending factions of jews who disagreed about how to advance the revolution abroad. The trotskyites wanted a direct militaristic approach but the Gramsci plan to gradually capture the institutions of the West won out. The only difference between Republicans and Democrats is how fast to boil the frog in order to achieve the same ends. That gap is shrinking by the day as we see Trump leading the faithful to accept more and more compromises. Accept queer marriage and adoption, IVF, genocide in Gaza and maybe, just maybe you might get some tiny walkback on bump stocks or MS13 gangmembers running amok in your town
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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #28 on: October 18, 2024, 10:16:31 AM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on October 18, 2024, 09:21:18 AM
    I understand and agree that it would be much better if things were EXPLICITLY said, but the only politicians I know who were explicit in social issues such as these were "social conservatives", and they never got nominated let alone elected.  In previous elections prior to 2016 when I didn't vote at all, I always voted in the primaries for the social conservative but was always left with the social moderates to vote for in the election.
     took such a strong and decisive stand vor
    I don't think you can look at Trump as the average "moderate". He co-opted the Christian and Catholic right in 2016 and rightfully so, as the strongest pro-life presidential candidate we have ever had. That IS why he won (if you can trust any election.) We are the ones who got him over the finish line BECAUSE he took such decisive stands on moral issues that mattered, not in spite of it. It turned out to be a part of a larger plan to "capture" our demographic, and as Trump put it, " I could shoot somebody and not lose voters"- how true.

    He really talked a good talk and seemed to be speaking truth to power.

    Now he is banking on the past in keeping the conservative Christian and Catholic vote in check while currently throwing every conceivable wrench in our faces -" You have no where else to go". And so it seems.

    He is essentially MORE evil than the average neo-con political hack because he is taking off the mask and showing us his true colors. He's no pro-lifer and has never been. We are seeing who he is and he is a world class zionist globalist player taking us down the path to Noahide slavery and worse, and we are still trying to convince ourselves that he "really doesn't mean it' and he will "save the day" somehow.

    Remember , this is the man who gave us the beautiful shot and initiated the lockdowns. Don't tell me he was just naively manipulated. He was a major part of the plan.

    Please.

    If trump does win, and I think he will; everyone will be happy if he straightens out the economy a bit and everyone's 401K rises a few points, while Gazans, Lebanese and Syrians are being wiped off the face of the earth, babies continue to be slaughtered, old people euthanized  and the gαy flag waved proudly; but no one will say a thing because it's under Trump's watch and not the evil democrats: and life will continue to be great for Israel and the Jєω oligharchs stealing our hard earned wealth, just the way they like it
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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #29 on: October 18, 2024, 11:37:56 AM »
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    • Quote from: josefamenendez on October 18, 2024, 10:16:31 AM
    I don't think you can look at Trump as the average "moderate".
    I wasn't trying to label Trump (and maybe he's not a moderate, but I still don't see him quite like hαɾɾιs). 

    I was merely pointing out that, although it sure would be nice if they did, no politician speaks explicitly on the social issues other than social conservatives...who never get nominated nor elected.  I think it's a reflection of our liberalized society.  As a result, we're unfortunately left with those who don't speak explicitly and tend to play both sides in order to get elected.

    I'm not looking to argue with you josefa.  I just wanted to make that point.
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