I am done with Tɾυmρ. He is no better than Mitt Romney. I would rather have someone who really was what the mєdια pretended Tɾυmρ was. When he finally kicks the bucket I will cry as many tears as I did when Ruth Ginsberg died.

Still promoting the scamdemic;

When the cσɾσnαvιɾυs plague arrived from ƈhıną, afflicting every nation around the globe, President Tɾυmρ acted early and decisively to ban travel from ƈhıną and Europe, which saved countless lives. He launched the greatest national industrial mobilization since World War II, refilling our depleted stockpiles of medical supplies, bringing our critical supply chains back home, pioneering life-saving medical treatments in record time, leveraging the Defense Production Act, mass producing and mass distributing masks, gowns, gloves, and other protective  equipment, and getting new breakthrough therapies into the hands of hospitals, doctors, and patients.  President Tɾυmρ, from scratch, built the most robust testing system in the world and, at his direction, temporary hospitals and new medical beds were built from scratch to keep hospitals from overcrowding.  Aggressive action was taken to get critical supplies to nursing homes in order to protect the most vulnerable among us.  Through Operation Warp Speed, the Manhattan Project for ναccιnєs, two different and powerfully-effective ναccιnє candidates were approved in record time, with more ναccιnєs following quickly on their heels—a true medical miracle.  In order to get these doses to the population as quickly as possible, all of the leading ναccιnє candidates were manufactured in advance—an industrial breakthrough that further saved countless lives.

Emphasis mine.
I would not trust him as far as I could throw him.

The choices are clear for the pro-life movement- what are you willing to sacrifice? 
The penalties will be higher but never more distinct. 
 Protecting the babies lives will be competing with our own survival- both physically, as far as the vaccine  and "passports", and the temporal punishment of unlawful imprisonment and worse for trying to save them.

 I can no longer look at Trump as a better" choice", he was part of the deal that brought us to this point. They are very clever and evil. Trump was a player.

Good for President Tɾυmρ. May he win re-ɛƖɛctıon, at least in 2024, if it is God's Will.

President Tɾυmρ was pro-life. He was pro-Christ at Christmas, pro-the Catholic Church and strong on many issues. He also opposed unnecessary and needless endless wars. On one or two issues, he could be better: e.g. ναccιnєs. But on the whole he was a good President. If he'd remained in office, the pro-life cause would have gained momentum.

Trump was also pro-sodomite and pro-scamdemic and pro-vax, not to mention a serial adulterer in his personal life, often making crass vulgar impure comments about women, and prancing through the Miss America locker room while the women were naked.  He also backstabbed all his supporters in the wake of the Capitol so-called "riot".  He was also very pro-Zionist.  So, not he was not "on the whole ... a good President."  AT BEST he was a lesser evil, which isn't saying much given how depraved the Democratic candidates were.  And his Supreme Court picks have turned out to be major disappointments.  Not only did they refuse to hear the case regarding election fraud, they've been refusing to hear cases brought by states.

In your justification of all things Novus Ordo, you're slipping into a moral relativism.  This is like saying that Benedict XVI was a good pope ... compared to Bergoglio.

Good for President Tɾυmρ. May he win re-ɛƖɛctıon, at least in 2024, if it is God's Will.

President Tɾυmρ was pro-life. He was pro-Christ at Christmas, pro-the Catholic Church and strong on many issues. He also opposed unnecessary and needless endless wars. On one or two issues, he could be better: e.g. ναccιnєs. But on the whole he was a good President. If he'd remained in office, the pro-life cause would have gained momentum.

I agree.

Though most Catholics on this forum are against Tɾυmρ, I still am glad that I voted for him in 2016, and 2020. The alternative to Tɾυmρ was, in 2016, the evil Hillary Clinton. It was worth it to vote for Tɾυmρ, just to keep her out of office.

It's mainly the sedevacantists and their fellow travelers who are against Tɾυmρ. They would have us believe that only THEY hold the key to truth. As if they are prophets of God, and the only true Catholics left on earth.

Meg, your true colors are showing hatred for those who are keeping the Faith.
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As you know, I a Roman Catholic who holds the sede position, most of my circle of friends are of that mindset.  For your information, we all voted for Trump with no regrets as you described the reasons above. In your defense, it is possible a few did not vote at all.   We are disappointed with the way things worked out.  


I think it would be good advice if you would review the Eighth Commandment of God.  Good advice for all, including, me a sinner.


It is sad not to see you hold YOUR Pope to the standards you criticize others.  The Church can not, would not deceive nor would the Vicar of Christ in matters of Faith and Morals if you believe that might it be possible your group whoever are the schismatics.