I don't agree with everything you've posted so please help me understand what you're conveying.

The candidates aren't living saints so we shouldn't vote at all?
God can't take good from evil?  In the bible, Ruth was a Moabite who worshiped a false god.  Her grandson was David the king who was a murderer and an adulterer
BUT from them came the Redeemer of the world.  

The US is going to elect a president to get the country out of the mess it's in NOT
elect a Pope or canonize a saint.

The US has a habit of electing lawyers just like Canada, until recently when we elected a lifeguard.  It's time the US elected a business man who has had many successes but also some failures in business that is willing  to clean house and enforce the laws (immigration) and reverse some bad ones.

You know what you'll get with Clinton;  Bill times ten.

Jesus said, "Render to Caesar that which belongs to Caesar"  I believe that means each person has a duty and should vote for the person he believes will best run the country.
The bad thing is the pool of choices is very muddy.

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I don't agree with everything you've posted so please help me understand what you're conveying.

The candidates aren't living saints so we shouldn't vote at all?
God can't take good from evil?  In the bible, Ruth was a Moabite who worshiped a false god.  Her grandson was David the king who was a murderer and an adulterer
BUT from them came the Redeemer of the world.  

The US is going to elect a president to get the country out of the mess it's in NOT
elect a Pope or canonize a saint.

The US has a habit of electing lawyers just like Canada, until recently when we elected a lifeguard.  It's time the US elected a business man who has had many successes but also some failures in business that is willing  to clean house and enforce the laws (immigration) and reverse some bad ones.

You know what you'll get with Clinton;  Bill times ten.

Jesus said, "Render to Caesar that which belongs to Caesar"  I believe that means each person has a duty and should vote for the person he believes will best run the country.
The bad thing is the pool of choices is very muddy.

My point is Trump is  no better than everyone else. Even if he is the lesser of two evils doesn't matter because evil is evil. That's all I am saying.

No where do I say that the president needs to be a saint. I'm saying they should be Catholic to illicit a Catholics vote.

So in the history of the United States Catholics should have only voted once so far?  And it was OK to support him even though he was an adulterer?


How do you know he was an adulterer? I mean isn't it a tad bit suspicious that the only Catholic president in the History of the U.S. was a) branded an adulterer  by baseless rumor b) Shot only 2 years into his term after launching a huge investigation into federal agencies?


And again you miss my point Evil is Evil. Period. That's the moral and just because it's the supposed lesser of two evils doesn't make it not evil.

Now if you have something intelligent to add I shall respond but if your just going to sit here and spew you closet Protestant propaganda I'm going to go do something else.

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I don't agree with everything you've posted so please help me understand what you're conveying.

The candidates aren't living saints so we shouldn't vote at all?
God can't take good from evil?  In the bible, Ruth was a Moabite who worshiped a false god.  Her grandson was David the king who was a murderer and an adulterer
BUT from them came the Redeemer of the world.  

The US is going to elect a president to get the country out of the mess it's in NOT
elect a Pope or canonize a saint.

The US has a habit of electing lawyers just like Canada, until recently when we elected a lifeguard.  It's time the US elected a business man who has had many successes but also some failures in business that is willing  to clean house and enforce the laws (immigration) and reverse some bad ones.

You know what you'll get with Clinton;  Bill times ten.

Jesus said, "Render to Caesar that which belongs to Caesar"  I believe that means each person has a duty and should vote for the person he believes will best run the country.
The bad thing is the pool of choices is very muddy.

My point is Trump is  no better than everyone else. Even if he is the lesser of two evils doesn't matter because evil is evil. That's all I am saying.

No where do I say that the president needs to be a saint. I'm saying they should be Catholic to illicit a Catholics vote.

So in the history of the United States Catholics should have only voted once so far?  And it was OK to support him even though he was an adulterer?


How do you know he was an adulterer? I mean isn't it a tad bit suspicious that the only Catholic president in the History of the U.S. was a) branded an adulterer  by baseless rumor b) Shot only 2 years into his term after launching a huge investigation into federal agencies?


And again you miss my point Evil is Evil. Period. That's the moral and just because it's the supposed lesser of two evils doesn't make it not evil.

Now if you have something intelligent to add I shall respond but if your just going to sit here and spew you closet Protestant propaganda I'm going to go do something else.

I apologize for my hasty, poorly written respond. The message holds true but my insults are caused by misinterpreted words. I though you said that Catholics only voted once and got an adulterer. I spoke very irrationality due to a irritable upbringing with protestant cousins that insisted on being in our face as much as possible. Your response which I misinterpreted sorta sent a trigger thinking back to a time when my cousin used similar arguments to justify civilian carpet bombings in the middle east. So yeah sort of a trigger and I apologize. I do however stand by my rational responses which consist of defense of JFK. I do believe his name was intentionally slandered due to his Catholicism. I also say that in a normal world you should pick the lesser of two evils. But not if they commit literal evil. On one hand we have Jew worshipers (i.e. most Republicans) on the other we have full on Jew ideas made into reality (i.e. Democrats).




I would like to again apologize but many suppressed emotions of anger emerged when misread your words. :sign-surrender:

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 We need to pray for the Candidates God gives us.
Then they can change or we just allow this world to
control us. Never feel less.  

You know what? You're right. I'm voting fir Hilary and I'll pray she becomes a better person. Then I'll pray for the director of Planned Parenthood too after I donate 10k dollars and just pray they become a better person.

My point is Trump is  no better than everyone else. Even if he is the lesser of two evils doesn't matter because evil is evil. That's all I am saying.

No where do I say that the president needs to be a saint. I'm saying they should be Catholic to illicit a Catholics vote.

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My point is Trump is  no better than everyone else. Even if he is the lesser of two evils doesn't matter because evil is evil. That's all I am saying.

No where do I say that the president needs to be a saint. I'm saying they should be Catholic to illicit a Catholics vote.

We can only vote for a Catholic?  You're mixing up your spiritual life and your life as a citizen of a country.  Certainly we are voting to retain our freedom, which is disappearing.  The USA wasn't started by "Christians" and there was a lot of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ involved, BUT we have had the freedom to go to Church and worship God, and that is what matters.  If we continue on with this slow slide to more and more socialism we will be communist pretty soon and lose the freedom to vote.  

Trump isn't the best choice but he has stepped forward and he has been willing to finance his own campaign, which keeps him from "owing" anyone.  This alone to me shows he may be sincere.  All we can do is pray and hope for the best.  But to put him down just because he isn't Catholic is a little short sighted I think.  God uses many types of governments and many types of rulers.  We no longer have Christendom with Catholic monarchs, and we are at the end of an age, so voting to retain our freedoms to worship, to me, is very important.

Just to clear things up I am in no way supporting the Democrats but rather I am condemning the support of a man that holds very few Catholic virtues to heart.

... Marie Antoinette's famed quote "Let them eat cake!"