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« Reply #120 on: March 02, 2016, 11:04:40 AM »
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  • Neither Cruz nor Rubio are born in USA. As such, they are not even eligible to be President.  :detective:
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    « Reply #121 on: March 02, 2016, 12:24:11 PM »
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    Neither Cruz nor Rubio are born in USA. As such, they are not even eligible to be President.  :detective:


    My understanding is that Cruz's mother was a U.S. citizen who had not renounced her citizenship at the time he was born.  If that is correct, then he is Constitutionally eligible.


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    « Reply #122 on: March 02, 2016, 12:42:08 PM »
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    How Republican Jews Utterly Failed To Prevent Rise of 'Toxic' Donald Trump

    There is no sugarcoating it — these are the darkest days for Republican Jews like myself. Donald Trump, the most likely Republican candidate for president, has built within our party the nearest thing America has ever seen to a European nativist working class political movement. Such movements, to put it mildly, have never been good for the Jews or allies of free thought and the free market.


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    « Reply #123 on: March 02, 2016, 12:50:46 PM »
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  • It is very true that if it comes down to Hillary vs. Trump, most will vote for Hillary, or not vote at all.

    I spent many years around those who call themselves libertatians  :rolleyes: and those who actually think themselves "conservatives"  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: (they are, in actuality, liberals of yesteryear ... there is nothing conservative about them, but they are convinced that is what they are  :tinfoil:).  They hate Hillary, but they hate Trump more and have said they will vote for the former rather than the latter.

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    « Reply #124 on: March 02, 2016, 02:53:22 PM »
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    MO is anyone not voting for Trump is voting for the Billery.


    Why do you think that?
    Both Rubio and Cruz fare better in head-to-head polling against Clinton than Trump does. The first two beat her by small margins, but she beats Trump more handily.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/01/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-poll/


    Bogus polls-- Only Trump can beat the Billery.  :detective:


    If the polls are bogus, I'd say that's the best news I've heard all week given that these are the same people that say Drumpf is leading nationwide Rep primary polls. Bogus polls means the moral degenerate* will be a distant memory by November.


    *Actually, that's too generous as it implies a previous higher level of morality, but a man who's never found a need to ask God for forgiveness has always been morally reprehensible.


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    « Reply #125 on: March 02, 2016, 04:19:17 PM »
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    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
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    « Reply #126 on: March 02, 2016, 04:21:45 PM »
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    MO is anyone not voting for Trump is voting for the Billery.


    Why do you think that?
    Both Rubio and Cruz fare better in head-to-head polling against Clinton than Trump does. The first two beat her by small margins, but she beats Trump more handily.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/01/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-poll/


    Bogus polls-- Only Trump can beat the Billery.  :detective:


    If the polls are bogus, I'd say that's the best news I've heard all week given that these are the same people that say Drumpf is leading nationwide Rep primary polls. Bogus polls means the moral degenerate* will be a distant memory by November.


    *Actually, that's too generous as it implies a previous higher level of morality, but a man who's never found a need to ask God for forgiveness has always been morally reprehensible.


    Some polls are accurate and others are not. The nationwide polls showing Trump beating the Billery seem genuine as his crowds nationwide dwarf anyone else.  

    Would you rather see the Billery as Prez again? :detective:
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    « Reply #127 on: March 02, 2016, 04:22:12 PM »
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    Neither Cruz nor Rubio are born in USA. As such, they are not even eligible to be President.  :detective:


    Nope. Jus sanguinis. Since Cruz's mother is a citizen that gave birth in a foreign jurisdiction, Ted Cruz is an American national. Rubio was born here on American soil regardless of the parent's nationality so he's a citizen. This is called jus soli.


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    « Reply #128 on: March 02, 2016, 05:28:59 PM »
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  • Even some protestants get it.

    What Wouldn’t Jesus Do?

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    AMONG the most inexplicable developments in this bizarre political year is that Donald Trump is the candidate of choice of many evangelical Christians.

    ...If this embrace strikes you as discordant, it should. This visionary and inspiring man humiliated his first wife by conducting a very public affair, chronically bullies and demeans people, and says he has never asked God for forgiveness. His name is emblazoned on a casino that features a strip club; he has discussed anal sex on the air with Howard Stern and, after complimenting his daughter Ivanka’s figure, pointed out that if she “weren’t my daughter, perhaps I would be dating her.” He once supported partial-birth abortion and to this day praises Planned Parenthood, the nation’s largest abortion provider. He is a narcissist appealing to people whose faith declares that pride goes before a fall.

    Mr. Trump’s character is antithetical to many of the qualities evangelicals should prize in a political leader: integrity, compassion and reasoned convictions, wisdom and prudence, trustworthiness, a commitment to the moral good.

    When Bill Clinton was president, evangelicals ranked moral probity high on their list of leadership qualities. Supporters of Mr. Trump, a moral degenerate, justify their support by saying we’re electing a president rather than a pastor. Why a significant number of evangelicals are rallying round a man who exposes them as hypocrites is difficult to fathom.

    Part of the explanation is that many evangelicals feel increasingly powerless, beaten down, aggrieved and under attack. A sense of resentiment, or a “narrative of injury,” is leading them to look for scapegoats to explain their growing impotence. People filled with anger and grievances are easily exploited. As the great Christian apologist C. S. Lewis wrote, “We must picture hell as a state where everyone is perpetually concerned about his own dignity and advancement and where everyone has a grievance.”

    Enter Donald Trump, alpha male.

    Mr. Trump’s evangelical supporters don’t care about his agenda; they are utterly captivated by his persona. They view him as the strongest, most dominant, most assertive political figure they have ever seen. In an odd bow to Nietzschean ethics, they respect and applaud his Will to Power. And so the man who openly admires tyrants like Vladimir V. Putin and praised the Chinese crackdown in Tiananmen Square because it showed “strength” has become the repository of their hopes.

    Set aside the fact that Mr. Trump is a compulsive and unrepentant liar. Set aside, too, that he has demonstrated no ability for statecraft or the actual administration of government and has demonstrated much incompetence at business to boot.

    Bracket for now the fact that Mr. Trump has been more erratic, unprincipled and proudly ignorant when it comes to public policy than perhaps any major presidential candidate in American history.

    What stuns me is how my fellow evangelicals can rally behind a man whose words and actions are so at odds with the central teachings of our faith. They overlook, rationalize and even delight in Mr. Trump’s obsessive name-calling and Twitter attacks, his threats and acts of intimidation, his vindictiveness and casual cruelty (including mocking the disabled and P.O.W.s), all of which masquerade as strength and toughness. For some evangelicals, Christianity is no longer shaping their politics;with Mr. Trump in view, their faith lies subordinate.

    Yet it goes beyond that. Trumpism is not a political philosophy; it is a purposeful effort, led by a demagogue, to incite ugly passions, stoke resentments and divisions, and create fear of those who are not like “us” — Mexicans, Muslims and Syrian refugees. But it will not end there. There will always be fresh targets.

    Mr. Trump’s approach to life is not new. In “The Republic,” Plato writes of Thrasymachus debating Socrates over the meaning of justice. Thrasymachus, a cynical Sophist, insists that justice has no intrinsic meaning but is merely a pretty word for what is in the interest of the stronger party. Life is a competition to get more money and more power; that is what defines success. “Injustice, if it is on a large enough scale, is stronger, freer, and more masterly than justice,” he argues.

    Almost four centuries later, a carpenter from Nazareth offered a very different philosophy. When you see a wounded traveler on the road to Jericho, Jesus taught, you should not pass him by. “Truly I say to you,” he said in Matthew, “to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of mine, even the least of them, you did it to me.”

    At its core, Christianity teaches that everyone, no matter at what station or in what season in life, has inherent dignity and worth. “Follow justice and justice alone,” Deuteronomy says, “so that you may live and possess the land the Lord your God is giving you.” The attitude of Thrasymachus is foreign to biblical Christianity. So is Trumpism. In embracing it, evangelical Christians are doing incalculable damage to their witness.

    Peter Wehner, a senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center, served in the last three Republican administrations and is a contributing opinion writer.

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    « Reply #129 on: March 02, 2016, 05:37:13 PM »
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    Donald Trump Is a Scam. Voters Should Back Away


    Trump is a misogynist and philanderer. He demeans women and minorities. His preferred forms of communication are insults, obscenities and untruths.

    On Sunday, Trump's apparent reluctance to disavow David Duke until late in the day was extremely distasteful. The Ku Klux Klan is an evil, unholy movement representing the worst of America. Anyone who will not immediately denounce their support is unfit to be president.

    Trump claims he will "protect Christians." We already have a Protector, and He is not Trump.

    The grievances of Trump's supporters are legitimate. Politicians for too long have promised to represent the best interests of all Americans before an election, only to represent the interest of their cronies after the election. But Trump's followers are being fooled into believing that he can help them.

    Trump is promising many things that he cannot possibly deliver, but the most frightening part is Trump's stated willingness to ignore the authority of the Supreme Court, Congress and the U.S. Constitution if he were to become president.

    Trump has been surrounded by controversy for decades because of his untruthfulness, questionable business practices, reported association with organized crime, and abrupt changes in fundamental positions. Many of these controversies involve defrauding the working class and decisions that compromised American workers. He has taken a political position both pro and con on virtually every subject and major political party. This should give ... great pause and concern about supporting such a mercurial and chameleon-like candidate. Past performance is the best predictor of future behavior.

    Trump said he wants to make it easier to sue newspapers that criticize him. When it was pointed out to him Sunday that he would have to amend the Constitution's freedom of speech and freedom of press clauses, Trump was unmoved, simply noting that England has weaker protections for the press.

    ...We are already concerned about the expansion of executive power to dangerous and unconstitutional extremes in the current and previous administrations. Plus, in just the past year we have seen Christians put out of business and jailed for living according to the dictates of their faith.

    Trump ... may claim to be your friend and protector now, but as his history indicates, without your full support he will turn on you, and use whatever power is within his means to punish you.

    This is a critical time in American history and we call on all Christians to pray for personal repentance, divine forgiveness and spiritual awakening for our nation. It is not the time for Donald Trump.

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    « Reply #130 on: March 02, 2016, 05:46:16 PM »
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    A Final (I think) Few Remarks on Voting as a Moral Act
    BY Mark Shea
     Posted 12/16/11 at 1:00 AM

     

    Just a couple of things, prompted by some interesting and reasonable remarks by various readers.  First, one reader objects to my proposition that how voting changes the voter is vastly more significant than how the voter’s vote changes the outcome of an election:

       
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    If everyone thought about voting the way you do, then the worst candidates would always win elections.  The pure of heart would never vote.  Would the sacrifice of the widow in any possible scenario end with that result?


    I don’t see how my reader’s logic makes any sense.  First, of course, it relies on the perpetual straw man being advanced throughout this argument: that the refusal to support grave intrinsic evils worthy of the everlasting fires of hell is to demand “purity of heart” from a candidate.  That is, I repeat, rubbish.  It is not “perfectionism” to demand that we not be asked to support grave evil.  It is absolute bare minimum human decency.  I’m not looking to elect St. Francis of Assisi.  I’m looking to not be asked to put my soul at risk for everlasting damnation.  No matter how it’s spun, I do not believe I should take my puny penny of choice and give it to the service of grave evil that Mother Church warns is worthy of the fires of hell.  And frankly, if everyone thought the way I do, we would not be stuck with the utterly dreadful Ruling class we have because we would not stand for being manipulated into a perpetual choice between two parties who try to force us to support their preferred grave evil, all while scheming to strip the rest of us of our most basic civil rights.  It is nonsense to say that an electorate intolerant of grave evil would produce a political class committed to grave evil, just as it is nonsense to say that a political class committed to supporting grave evil will produce a virtuous or happy civilization.  Good trees bear good fruit and bad trees bear bad fruit, as our increasingly corrupt civilization attests with eloquence.

    My reader continues:

     
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     You can’t pretend that voting is just about your soul, Mr. Shea, though it undoubtedly is about that.  You make a good point.  But focusing on yourself in this situation is not the Catholic way.  And getting involved in societal change at the grassroots, or whatever you believe to be the ‘real’ way society gets better [perhaps some presumption there on your part?] is not a reason to elide doing your part to make it better in a ‘macro’ way, so to speak, also.

        I believe the catechism urges us to vote as part of our responsibility as citizens.


    I don’t pretend that voting is just about my soul.  It is, obviously, a public act ordered toward our relationship with the state. But to characterize voting one’s conscience as “focusing on yourself” is a radically poor understanding of the act.  The focus is not on self when voting one’s conscience.  It is, at least for a well-formed Christian, on God as all moral acts are.  The counsel of Christ to a paganized world seeking such things as power, winning, control, food, shelter, money (which is largely what politics concerns itself with) is this:

       
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    Therefore do not be anxious, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ For the Gentiles seek all these things; and your heavenly Father knows that you need them all. But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things shall be yours as well.  (Matthew 6:31-33)


    Seeking first his kingdom means, among other things, not allowing the desire for power or winning to predominate over anything God absolutely forbids—such as grave moral evil.  ... it is clear that we cannot under any circuмstances support a gravely and intrinsically immoral act.  What we may do ... is support a candidate who supports a gravely and intrinsically immoral act if, in doing so, we are not supporting the grave evil he supports, but trying to support some proportionate good.  We are not bound to support such a candidate and, if there is no proportionate good, we are bound not to support such a candidate.

    So here’s the deal: I see no proportionate good in supporting candidates from either party who support grave evil.  I do, however, see a proportionate good in refraining from voting should no candidate appear on the ballot who does not advocate grave evil.  Why?  Because while my vote, as a public act, does have an infinitesmally small effect on the outcome of an election (much as an air molecule has an infinitesmally small effect on an oncoming train) the overwhelmingly large impact my vote has is on me.  That’s not “focusing on myself”.  That’s focusing on God and my duty to obey him.  The notion that politics is the “real” way a society gets better, and that the actions of individuals acting in obedience to God is somehow vaguely self-centered, or narcissistic, or unrelated to the common good is one of the more curious ways that Catholic teaching has been supplanted by the groupthink and power politics of the postmodern era.  The world was not changed by the early Church jockeying for political power and disobeying their consciences in order to play ball with corrupt powers and “win”.  It was changed and healed by people who sought first the kingdom and refused to play ball by doing such “minor” compromises as offering a pinch of incense to Caesar—even at the cost of their lives. When Caesar stops asking me to do things that are directly repugnant to the teaching of the Church, I will happily play ball.  Lots of life is negotiable.  But grave intrinsic evil is not negotiable and I will have to give an account of my soul for how I acted when some political player asked me to back him as he sought to do things I know are evil.

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       When a dear, pious, and prayerful friend of mine in the throes of very nearly this same discussion threw up her hands in exasperation and said, “What should we do? Just sit at home and pray?” I knew I’d found a worm in our hearts.


    I hear you. Just as I find it extremely ominous that Christians keep talking as though “not wanting to go to hell” is the height of fussy prissy perfectionism, so I find it astounding to hear Christians talk as though politics is the primary way of salvation while prayer, trust in God, and obedience to conscience are the last, not the first, resort.  We don’t come out and say it (partly because we aren’t fully aware we think this way and partly because we dimly sense that if we said it out loud we would realize how faithless it really is) but many of us have deeply internalized the conviction that piety is fine for ineffectual types without the ruthlessness to get dirty and get the job done, but the *real* action is in the political arena. In the same way, all the stuff which suggests that voting one’s conscience and refusing to cooperate with evil is narcissistic makes it clear that the whole concept “seek first his kingdom and his righteousness and all these things will be added to you” is, at bottom, disbelieved by not a few Christians. The pressure to play ball with corrupt power and not make waves with “selfish, perfectionist” desires to not commit sin worthy of hell is portrayed as “realism”, when in fact, it is the height of unrealism to think one vote out of 50 million has any more power to change the outcome of an election. My vote will not change a national election, but it will change me. That’s hard-headed realism.  And if enough voters start to embrace that realism and seek first his kingdom, instead of seeking first “winning”, we will see a real change for the better in our political climate.

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    « Reply #131 on: March 02, 2016, 05:49:51 PM »
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    Is Donald Trump a Hillary Plant?
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    Donald Trump is a stooge for Hillary Clinton. He's a plant. He's a ringer to sink the chances of Republican candidates who actually have a chance of defeating Hillary.



    Donald Trump Is Running For Hillary Clinton 2016 CURVEBALL Exposed


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    « Reply #132 on: March 02, 2016, 05:56:56 PM »
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    Zionists Use Donald Trump to Fix Another Election

    Written by Henry Makow  //  July 16, 2015  //  

    Donald Trump is an Illuminati agent tasked with getting Hillary Clinton elected.


    Like a turd that won’t flush, Donald Trump is back again to serve his Illuminati Jєωιѕн masters. This time around, his role is to win the GOP nomination and throw the election to Hillary Clinton, the Illuminati bankers’ preferred candidate.

    If this seems farfetched, consider that Trump is allegedly  leading the other GOP candidates by a large margin. He catapulted into the lead by pretending to champion ordinary Americans who are fed up with illegal immigration. Calling Mexicans “rapists” is a little extreme but he needed to get attention fast.

    The Illuminati Jєωιѕн bankers have a long history of manipulating US Presidential elections. An obvious example is when they dusted off Theodore Roosevelt in 1912 to split the Republican vote, defeat Taft and elect their pawn Woodrow Wilson.

    In 1940, they got a Democrat, Wendell Wilkie, to run for the Republicans, and ensured FDR’s reelection, and US entry into World War Two.

    In 1992 election, they elected Bill Clinton by running Ross Perot in order to split the Republican vote. If Perot hadn’t run, Bush Sr. would have been re-elected. (Apparently, he had angered the Zionists by referring to their control of Capitol Hill.)  Perot got 20 million votes. Clinton got 45 million and Bush got 39 million.

    Trump was drafted to run in 2012 but they decided he wasn’t needed. Then as now, Trump  tailored his position to co-opt the opposition. He is “Christian, pro-life,  anti gαy marriage and so for the death penalty especially for terrorists.”

    “I’m a Protestant, I’m a Presbyterian,” he told the Christian Post. “And you know I’ve had a good relationship with the church over the years. I think religion is a wonderful thing. I think my religion is a wonderful religion.”

    He attends church “as much as I can. Always on Christmas. Always on Easter. And when there’s a major occasion. And during the Sundays. I’m a Sunday church person. I’ll go when I can.” Now, there’s conviction.
    His real  loyalty is to Mother Israel. Recently he said,  “there has never been a greater enemy to Israel than Barack Obama. It’s incredible the way he treats them, the way he’s speaking to them. I think he treats our known enemies much better.”
    Other stories linked there provide the flavour of Trump’s relation to Israel:

    Donald Trump’s son-in-law agrees to acquire Israeli insurer Phoenix
    By Michael Rochvarger | Jul. 7, 2014 | 3:50 AM |   1
    Report: Tycoon Donald Trump’s daughter converting to Judaism
    By Haaretz Service | Oct. 30, 2008 | 12:00 AM

    FOLLOW THE MONEY

    We can thank Brother Nathaniel in 2011 for alerting us to the hokey nature of the
    Trump campaign and the fact that his David Axelrod (aka “handler”) is another Illuminati Jew by the name of Michael Cohen.  He is a Trump advisor again in 2015 saying Trump speaks for the “silent majority.”

    Cohen supported Obama in 2008, but has “grown disappointed with the president, so much so that he now describes himself as ‘offended’ by the administration’s agenda. America, Cohen said, has become a “third-world nation,” echoing words that have become a familiar refrain of Trump’s.
    Michael joined The Trump Organization in 2006 following a career as a private attorney and “personal advisor to some of the world’s wealthiest individuals.”

    Last summer, Cohen rented a Hampton’s mansion for one month for $150,000 without even looking at it. He sued the owner for $500,000 because it was in disrepair.
    Another Trump backer is Steward Rehr, an Illuminati Jєωιѕн billionaire, who made his fortune as a pharmaceutical distributor. He is the 183rd richest man in America (139 of the top 400 are Jєωιѕн) and one of the 400th richest men in the world.  (Trump isn’t in the top 400.)

    If Americans think Trump and his backers are going to change anything, I have some real estate in Florida …. His role is to take a fall.

    Politics is a charade put on by the Illuminati. Their mass media puts lipstick on this pig.

    We don’t realize how we are totally manipulated. Our political, economic and cultural lives are psy ops.


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    « Reply #133 on: March 02, 2016, 06:12:39 PM »
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  • Forgot to put the bold emphasis from the original in this last sentence of the above article:

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    We don’t realize how we are totally manipulated. Our political, economic and cultural lives are psy ops.


    I can see from some posts here on CI that the manipulation is working.  


    p.s.  Best quote from CathInfo on the US electoral system:

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    :popcorn:    It's all just theater for the goi masses.


    Another good description:  
    "Emotional con game"

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    « Reply #134 on: March 02, 2016, 06:55:15 PM »
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  • Alex Jones set up a hotline for those to call in and report elections frauds.
    Many calls came in from Texas from voters said they voted for Trump.
    When they rechecked their votes, their votes were flipped to other
    candidates.                  
    I live in a state that has a caucus.  You go in and vote for delegates
    for you favorite presidential candidate.  When all the rules were
    spelled out in participating in the caucus.  I decided to leave and not
    vote.
    Proves that these caucuses are controlled by Political Cronies
    and hacks.
    Trump lost all the caucus states and the primary vote in Texas.