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Offline Meg

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Re: Trump Chooses Taylor Marshall
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2020, 07:26:50 AM »
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    • I could be wrong, but it seems likely that +Vigano recommended Taylor Marshall to Trump, to be on Trump's advisory board.

    Marshall said recently in one of his videos that +Vigano directly sent him a communication, which means, I assume, that Vigano is in contact with Marshall. It seems that +Vigano mainly works with Opus Dei affiliates. I hope that Trump does not become sympathetic to Opus Dei as a result. 
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    Re: Trump Chooses Taylor Marshall
    « Reply #16 on: July 28, 2020, 08:46:52 AM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on July 28, 2020, 07:26:50 AM
    I could be wrong, but it seems likely that +Vigano recommended Taylor Marshall to Trump, to be on Trump's advisory board.

    Marshall said recently in one of his videos that +Vigano directly sent him a communication, which means, I assume, that Vigano is in contact with Marshall. It seems that +Vigano mainly works with Opus Dei affiliates. I hope that Trump does not become sympathetic to Opus Dei as a result.
    Does not surprise me in the least.  Another poster has said the same about Marshall and Opus Dei.  First time I have heard Vigano's name attached to Opus Dei, though.  Curious.
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    Re: Trump Chooses Taylor Marshall
    « Reply #17 on: July 28, 2020, 09:05:20 AM »
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    Re: Trump Chooses Taylor Marshall
    « Reply #18 on: July 28, 2020, 01:24:30 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on July 28, 2020, 07:26:50 AM
    It seems that +Vigano mainly works with Opus Dei affiliates.
    Source for this egregious allegation?
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    Re: Trump Chooses Taylor Marshall
    « Reply #19 on: July 28, 2020, 02:54:50 PM »
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    Re: Trump Chooses Taylor Marshall
    « Reply #20 on: July 28, 2020, 04:32:15 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on July 28, 2020, 02:54:50 PM
    https://akacatholic.com/opus-deis-role-in-the-vigano-affair/

    The “source” was requested & provided and then Meg gets “thumbed down”.

    Sounds like a troll reflex response.
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    Re: Trump Chooses Taylor Marshall
    « Reply #21 on: July 28, 2020, 05:08:34 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on July 28, 2020, 04:32:15 PM
    The “source” was requested & provided and then Meg gets “thumbed down”.

    Sounds like a troll reflex response.

    Thanks, Incred.

    I'm still supportive of Vigano, and hope that he continues to provide his views on the Crisis in the Church. But of course some of think that it's not a good idea for him to use Opus Dei members and fans for his media sources; sources that provide us with his views. Opus Dei is a freakish Vll cult, though they pass themselves off as extremely virtuous. But...secrecy is not a virtue. Requiring its members to not divulge their membership is not virtuous. Opus Dei appears to control a lot of conciliar Catholic media outlets.

    It's possible that Vigano just wants to use them to get his message out. I don't think it's a good idea.

    And as Randy Engel said, why is it that Vigano has not gone after, by name, some of the other homos in the conciliar church, who have committed crimes just as bad as those of McCarrick?
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    Re: Trump Chooses Taylor Marshall
    « Reply #22 on: July 28, 2020, 06:37:39 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on July 28, 2020, 04:32:15 PM

    Sounds like a troll reflex response.

    Yes, trolls abound. I got two down thumbs on page 1 simply for pointing out that people on this site spotted Marshall as a highly dubious character fully seven years ago. My mentioning Meg as an early spotter seems to have been viewed as especially unforgivable.

    I don't particularly care about the whats and whys of people's likes and dislikes, but to my knowledge spitefulness has never been numbered among the saintly characteristics to which Catholics should aspire.

    As for Archbishop Viganò, the attitude that the worth of his various published messages should be regarded as tainted because he has had what some consider questionable friendships and associations is uncomfortably redolent of a media-led "cancellation" of a celebrity who was seen in a store one day saying hello to a h0Ɩ0h0αx h0Ɩ0cαųst denier. Surely a Catholic should judge the messenger by his message; not the other way around. For that reason. so long as the archbishop continues to attack conciliarist traitors and speak up for the True Faith, he will have my support and applause.
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    Re: Trump Chooses Taylor Marshall
    « Reply #23 on: July 28, 2020, 06:39:50 PM »
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    Re: Trump Chooses Taylor Marshall
    « Reply #24 on: July 28, 2020, 08:24:37 PM »
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    • You guys just aren't ready yet. The MacDaddy Maccabee gonna make traddies go to indult Mass like grannies go to Applebees!





    Straight out of A Call For An Uprising video... lol.
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    Re: Trump Chooses Taylor Marshall
    « Reply #25 on: July 28, 2020, 08:49:54 PM »
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    • Yeah, he’s doing a lot of trad-talky on a big media budget.

    But, what will Opus Dei have Dr. Marshall try to prersuade conservative Catholics to believe?

    In Trump, in FSSP/SSPX compromises and in vaccines, for the greater good of ʝʊdɛօ-masonry.
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    Re: Trump Chooses Taylor Marshall
    « Reply #26 on: July 29, 2020, 12:30:49 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on July 28, 2020, 02:54:50 PM
    https://akacatholic.com/opus-deis-role-in-the-vigano-affair/
    I asked for source material for this accusation and you send this link?
    Junk article.

    He begins with a premise similar to “When did you start beating your wife?”

    He says:
    “the real question that I will address in this article is: In what way is Opus Dei behind Vigano’s actions?”
    In other words, he already "knows" something.
    To a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail

    He goes on with mere speculation:
    “For instance, given the aforementioned accolade to John Paul II, could he be acting in deference to Opus Dei’s desire to continue the myth of “John Paul the Great?” Or is there another Opus Dei purpose behind this?”

    Being open-minded, I continued to read to see if these thinly veiled accusations were supported. They were not. He repeatedly made unfounded accusations without giving any source.

    I checked for footnotes.
    One was nonworking.
    One was a nothing burger.
    Calumny is a sin.
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    Re: Trump Chooses Taylor Marshall
    « Reply #27 on: July 29, 2020, 03:06:32 PM »
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    • Cera,

    Get your grandson to show you how to open-up web links  :popcorn:
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    Re: Trump Chooses Taylor Marshall
    « Reply #28 on: July 29, 2020, 03:30:08 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on July 29, 2020, 03:06:32 PM
    Cera,

    Get your grandson to show you how to open-up web links  :popcorn:
    I opened it, read it and responded to it.
    Are you having a bad day?
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    Re: Trump Chooses Taylor Marshall
    « Reply #29 on: July 29, 2020, 03:57:54 PM »
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    • Quote from: Cera on July 29, 2020, 12:30:49 PM
    I asked for source material for this accusation and you send this link?
    Junk article.

    He begins with a premise similar to “When did you start beating your wife?”

    He says:
    “the real question that I will address in this article is: In what way is Opus Dei behind Vigano’s actions?”
    In other words, he already "knows" something.
    To a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail

    He goes on with mere speculation:
    “For instance, given the aforementioned accolade to John Paul II, could he be acting in deference to Opus Dei’s desire to continue the myth of “John Paul the Great?” Or is there another Opus Dei purpose behind this?”

    Being open-minded, I continued to read to see if these thinly veiled accusations were supported. They were not. He repeatedly made unfounded accusations without giving any source.

    I checked for footnotes.
    One was nonworking.
    One was a nothing burger.
    Calumny is a sin.

    The article provides the info you asked for. If you have an issue with it, that's fine, but I won't respond to the details you responded with. I provided what was asked for. I'm not interested in your immature response to it.
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    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29
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