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Trump floats idea of delaying the November election..................
« on: July 30, 2020, 10:14:33 AM »
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    • Trump floats idea of delaying the November election, a power granted to Congress, as he ramps up attacks on voting by mail
    July 30, 2020 in News by RBN Staff


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    President Trump on Thursday floated the prospect of delaying the November election, as he ramped up his attacks on mail-in voting, claiming without evidence that its widespread use would be a “catastrophic disaster” that could lead to fraudulent results.



    “With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history,” Trump tweeted. “It will be a great embarrassment to the USA. Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???”

    The U.S. Constitution gives the power to regulate the “time, place and manner” of elections to the U.S. House and Senate, with Congress also empowered to alter the rules. Nowhere is the president granted such power.



    In addition, the Constitution spells out a hard end to a president’s term on Jan. 20 in the year following a presidential election.

    As more states have turned to mail-in voting in response the pandemic, Trump has repeatedly sought to undermine the method, often with unsubstantiated claims. He has attacked mail voting nearly 70 times since late March in interviews, remarks and tweets, including at least 17 times this month, according to a tally by The Washington Post.

    Trump has also argued that mail-in voting tends to hurt Republicans at the ballot box.

    Amy Gardner and Elise Viebeck contributed to this report.

    © Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post President Trump stops to talk to reporters as he walks to board Marine One and depart from the South Lawn at the White House on Wednesday.


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    Re: Trump floats idea of delaying the November election..................
    « Reply #1 on: July 30, 2020, 12:45:38 PM »
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    • This article is spot on.

    Election Day is fixed by an 1845 act of Congress to be in November, which means any idea to augment it would have to go through both chambers of Congress and be signed by the President before anything could take place. The same thing was thought of by officials in the Bush administration leading up to the 2004 election, as there were fears that Al-Qaeda would attack the US and disrupt the election. Secretary of State Rice refuted it arguing that even during the cινιℓ ωαr, Lincoln didn't think of postponing anything regarding the impending election of 1864.

    Even if he wanted to, delaying the election until 2021 would not do him any favors. Period. Election or not, his and Vice President's Pence's terms would automatically end at noon on January 20th, 2021. This means that in the Line of Succession, the Speaker of the House becomes acting President. This means that Nancy Peℓσѕι would become the 46th President of the United States until the formal election was held.
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    Re: Trump floats idea of delaying the November election..................
    « Reply #2 on: July 30, 2020, 12:58:58 PM »
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    • Perhaps Trump will cancel all further elections and declare himself dictator for life. 
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    Re: Trump floats idea of delaying the November election..................
    « Reply #3 on: July 30, 2020, 01:10:12 PM »
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    • The framers of the Constitution didn't envision elections or political parties in choosing a president.  The original plan was for state legislatures to direct a manner (which might vary from state to state) in which electors would be chosen.  Those electors, anticipated to be impartial, wise men who understood matters of state, would then elect the president.  It was foreseen that, probably more often than not, the electors wouldn't be able to choose a president first time around, at which time the House would elect the president and the Senate would elect the vice president.  That is a streamlined version of how it was supposed to work, but the basics are there.  Popular vote didn't even enter into it.  Why did we give this up?
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    Re: Trump floats idea of delaying the November election..................
    « Reply #4 on: July 30, 2020, 01:22:36 PM »
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    • Also, the Senate used to be chosen/voted on by the STATE's congress/senate, not by popular vote, which was only for the House.  Overall, even considering all the corruption, the system still works pretty well.  A minor miracle.
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    Re: Trump floats idea of delaying the November election..................
    « Reply #5 on: July 30, 2020, 01:34:30 PM »
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    • Quote from: SimpleMan on July 30, 2020, 01:10:12 PM
    The framers of the Constitution didn't envision elections or political parties in choosing a president.  The original plan was for state legislatures to direct a manner (which might vary from state to state) in which electors would be chosen.  Those electors, anticipated to be impartial, wise men who understood matters of state, would then elect the president.  It was foreseen that, probably more often than not, the electors wouldn't be able to choose a president first time around, at which time the House would elect the president and the Senate would elect the vice president.  That is a streamlined version of how it was supposed to work, but the basics are there.  Popular vote didn't even enter into it.  Why did we give this up?
    Because generations have been wrongly taught that we are a "democracy" aka mob rule.
    As you point out, we were established as a REPUBLIC.
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    Re: Trump floats idea of delaying the November election..................
    « Reply #6 on: July 30, 2020, 03:07:17 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on July 30, 2020, 01:22:36 PM
    Also, the Senate used to be chosen/voted on by the STATE's congress/senate, not by popular vote, which was only for the House.  Overall, even considering all the corruption, the system still works pretty well.  A minor miracle.
    I would go with the original Constitution on that too.  Arguably, the only amendments (beyond the first ten) that were even needed, were the 13th, 14th, and 15th, which addressed the condition of freed slaves.  Possibly only the 13th Amendment was needed.  The original, unamended Constitution only addresses voting for the House of Representatives.  It doesn't address who can vote and who cannot.
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