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Offline Plenus Venter

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Bishop Williamson Reflects on Trump Victory
« on: November 15, 2024, 11:14:05 PM »
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  • "Be careful of over-rejoicing in what happened. Let us be thankful to God for this reprieve":


    Offline 2Vermont

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    Re: Bishop Williamson Reflects on Trump Victory
    « Reply #1 on: November 16, 2024, 05:58:59 AM »
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  • Did Bishop Williamson make any public statements or include any in his EC's his position on how to vote in the election?  I don't recall any.  Also, can you provide a timestamp for his comments in the video?


    Offline Mark 79

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    Re: Bishop Williamson Reflects on Trump Victory
    « Reply #2 on: November 16, 2024, 10:10:26 AM »
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  • With the overwhelming representation of bloodlusting Zionist warmongers among Trump's appointees, it is difficult to even see a "reprieve."

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    Re: Bishop Williamson Reflects on Trump Victory
    « Reply #3 on: November 16, 2024, 10:31:44 AM »
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  • With the overwhelming representation of bloodlusting Zionist warmongers among Trump's appointees, it is difficult to even see a "reprieve."
    I know you and I won't agree, but I think we need to still have a wait and see (or maybe a better way to put it: a "pray and see") attitude regardless of how questionable many of these picks appear to be.   

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    Re: Bishop Williamson Reflects on Trump Victory
    « Reply #4 on: November 16, 2024, 10:39:46 AM »
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  • "Be careful of over-rejoicing in what happened. Let us be thankful to God for this reprieve":

    Uhm, one shouldn't "rejoice" at all.  Even if someone asserts (and I strongly disagree) that it's permitted to vote for a "lesser evil", lesser evil is still evil, and Catholics merely TOLERATE but do not celebrate evil.  If you are rejoicing in a Trump victory rather than having pulled the lever "holding your nose", with a heavy heart, realizing that it's the best we could get and the most we deserve ... then your moral compass is corrupt, and you should reflect upon it.

    As always per the Hegelian dialectic being played on us, one side or another always gets a temporary reprieve, limited of course to that which is specific to the one side (while the agendas held by both sides continue marching on).  So, for instance, the Left felt they had a "reprieve" under Biden, and so now the Right are hoping for a "reprieve" under Trump ... and they will indeed get one, for some of concerns that the Right generally have which are specific to them, but there's no reprieve from the inexorable forward march of the Hegelian juggernaut.

    As per this cartoon here (which admirably depicts the reality of what's taking place), you get a short break while the foot that's been on your back gets lifted up and the other foot stomps down on the other side, but the whole time the juggernaut is marching forward.  As you walk, you rarely have both feet on the ground at the same time.




    But both sides continue pushing some common agendas forward (as they focus myopically on what divides them), in particular the enablement of the Jєωιѕн genocide to build out the "Greater Israel".  So, at this time, the Hegelian controllers felt it expedient to get Trump the perception of some popular "mandate", giving Republicans the House, Senate, and Presidency, and since many of his base on the Right, the Scoffield Evangelicals, are rabidly Pro Zionist, the controllers wanted someone who could press forward with the next stage of Jєωιѕн expansion, whereas many on the Left actually opposed the Jєωιѕн genocide.  Of course, all that pressure from the Left resulted in was an occasional statement by Biden made for domestic consumption (to appease that contingent of the Left), whereas in reality he was signalling Israel and Bibi to march full speed ahead (continuing to send taxper money to fund it), nevertheless, they wanted the next President to be able to move full speed ahead without being feterred by any such political concerns.

    So, in this The Simpsons cartoon, Reverend Lovejoy (the one walking his dog) is Biden, the dog is Netanyahu, and Flanders is those on the Left who oppose what the dog is doing ... so the situation under the Democrat regime.  Under the Republican regime, there's no pesky Flanders there questioning what you're doing so that you have to be more subtle and surreptitious about it, and you can just tell the dog openly to let 'er rip.



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    Re: Bishop Williamson Reflects on Trump Victory
    « Reply #5 on: November 16, 2024, 10:40:01 AM »
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  • I know you and I won't agree, but I think we need to still have a wait and see (or maybe a better way to put it: a "pray and see") attitude regardless of how questionable many of these picks appear to be. 

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    Re: Bishop Williamson Reflects on Trump Victory
    « Reply #6 on: November 16, 2024, 10:45:57 AM »
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  • I know you and I won't agree, but I think we need to still have a wait and see (or maybe a better way to put it: a "pray and see") attitude regardless of how questionable many of these picks appear to be. 

    There's absolutely no "wait and see".  There's overwhelming evidence that many on the Right who compromised themselves to vote for Trump simply are in denial about that Trump is not one of the "good guys" but is merely a stage actor playing his part in the whole production.  God will not favor or reward the compromise where even Traditional Catholics voted for a guy who's 94% Pro Abortion and 100% Pro Jew Genocide.

    See, Mark and a few others who weren't in denial ... ABSOLUTELY KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN, PREDICTED IT, and WERE SHOUTING IT FROM THE ROOFTOPS.  But we were ignored.  So those who voted Trump can now lay in the bed they made for themselves, and the "pray" part of "pray and see" should primarily involve the prayer of repentance for having voted this guy into office.

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    Re: Bishop Williamson Reflects on Trump Victory
    « Reply #7 on: November 16, 2024, 10:48:52 AM »
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    Yep.  Stil in denial.  We tried to warn them ahead of time, but now that exactly what we predicted (and only a fool in denial couldn't see) has come to pass, it's "pray and see".  Methinks that the bulk of that praying should be asking for forgiveness, repetance for having voted a 94% Pro Abortion and 100% Pro Jєωιѕн Genocide President.


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    Re: Bishop Williamson Reflects on Trump Victory
    « Reply #8 on: November 16, 2024, 10:49:04 AM »
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  • I know you and I won't agree, but I think we need to still have a wait and see (or maybe a better way to put it: a "pray and see") attitude regardless of how questionable many of these picks appear to be. 



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    Re: Bishop Williamson Reflects on Trump Victory
    « Reply #9 on: November 16, 2024, 10:54:45 AM »
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  • :laugh1:

    Mark and Ladislaus has proven that it is impossible to discuss this topic with them. But what do you expect from people who think they can decide when one is in mortal sin based on their vote for Trump?

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    Re: Bishop Williamson Reflects on Trump Victory
    « Reply #10 on: November 16, 2024, 11:10:37 AM »
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  • I have to disagree also with Bishop Williamson on another comment, since very little that Michael Matt says is "worth listening to".

    Meanwhile, in Lebanon ...
    https://x.com/sahouraxo/status/1857456292362621305

    https://x.com/sahouraxo/status/1857463570331562190

    https://x.com/Powerfulmindx/status/1857470700925182033


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    Re: Bishop Williamson Reflects on Trump Victory
    « Reply #11 on: November 16, 2024, 11:14:27 AM »
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  • +Williamson talks about how Trump abandoned the Pro Life platform in order to get more votes (from "moderates").

    Why?  Beacause he knew that the idiot Pro Lifers (with their corrupt moral compases) would vote for him anyway, since he's disapproves of 6% more abortions than the Democrats ... so those who compromised by voting for him.  He couldn't get away with it if it weren't for the immoral / amoral "lesser evil" morons.

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    Re: Bishop Williamson Reflects on Trump Victory
    « Reply #12 on: November 16, 2024, 01:14:08 PM »
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    Mark and Ladislaus has proven that it is impossible to discuss this topic with them…
    … and "win" due to the mountain of evidence increasing minute-by-minute against Trumptard idolization.

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    Re: Bishop Williamson Reflects on Trump Victory
    « Reply #13 on: November 16, 2024, 10:02:56 PM »
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  • There's absolutely no "wait and see". 
    Agreed, Trump was a well known Zionist beforehand. No one here should be giving him the benefit of the doubt, especially after seeing his first term in office. Pray for Trump, of course, but do not delude oneself that this time things will be different.

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    Re: Bishop Williamson Reflects on Trump Victory
    « Reply #14 on: November 17, 2024, 07:04:41 AM »
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  • Agreed, Trump was a well known Zionist beforehand. No one here should be giving him the benefit of the doubt, especially after seeing his first term in office. Pray for Trump, of course, but do not delude oneself that this time things will be different.

    Yeah, unfortunately those who inexplicably got fooled a second time around are back into hopium/copium mode, complete with the 5-D chess references.  We had not only Trump's first term but also his entire campaign this time around where he openly gave speeches about how Netanyahu had to "finish the job", denouncing Biden for even mildly trying to restrain him (just for his own political reasons), bragging about how he'd be the "Jєωιѕн President", would "Make Israel Great Again" and get rid of the "Jew haters" ... having made his visits to the wall, where he wasn't just standing there but you could see him subtly doing the hip thrusting (so he knows the significance) and where not only did his daughter marry a Jew (who owns and works out of the building on 666 5th avenue) but she converted to Judaism herself, taking the Jew name of "Yael".  In one of his own biographical books, Trump makes reference to some Chabad teacher of his (or something like that, the various types of Jewry being a bit confusing to me).

    But let's "wait and see".  We've BEEN seeing for 10 years now, and only confirmation bias filtering out reality could cause someone not to see, and especially for people on this forum where the reality of it has been pointed out ad nauseum.  And you didn't have to be Nostradamus to predict this, as ...

    even Stevie Wonder could have seen this coming ...