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Traditional Catholic Faith => Politics and World Leaders => Topic started by: Beaumont on September 23, 2020, 08:35:14 PM

Title: Traditional Catholic Teaching & Amy Barrett on the Supreme Court
Post by: Beaumont on September 23, 2020, 08:35:14 PM
It seems a "Catholic" woman with 7 children and a husband may be nominated for the Supreme Court.

Does anyone else sense something un-Catholic about a woman and mother of 7 children devoting her life to being a full time judge and now potential Supreme Court Justice?

Is not the vocation of women to be mothers and wives? Not working long hours for the government in positions of authority deciding legal cases?

This is, of course, a verboten thought in today's Godless anti-Christ society where there is no such thing as gender and everyone is interchangeable.

But isn't there something to be said for the proposition that in any civilized and sane Catholic society women would not be and not desire to be Supreme Court Justices, but would rather strive to be the best wives, mothers, and homemakers they can?

Look at this video of her speaking about judicial issues. Isn't there something wrong here in your Traditional Catholic sense? Why did this woman feel the need to take on debt and years of study to have decades of full time and overtime jobs studying these arcane laws and knowing tons of information about jurisprudence? Her husband is a prosecutor and makes enough money for the the family. Instead of staying home and giving her 7 children a full time mother she is waxing poetic about judicial precedent she must have spent thousands of hours pouring through. If she makes it  onto the Supreme Court she will be doing nothing but deciding cases the rest of her natural life, working long full time hours while her 7 kids are raised, in large part,  by teachers, day care workers, and staff.

The Satanic lie that has been sold to these career women is that anything they do in the secular workforce can hold a candle to their value at home as a mom and wife. They have really demeaned their worth by trading this gift in for a boring, technical, masculine life reading legal treatises and giving lectures. From a Catholic point of view, what a complete sad waste. This is modern feminism and it is infected the Novus Ordo completely. It is sad and a tragedy, but yet 99% of Catholics will celebrate it as a triumph.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yjTEdZ81lI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yjTEdZ81lI)
Title: Re: Traditional Catholic Teaching & Amy Barrett on the Supreme Court
Post by: forlorn on September 23, 2020, 09:16:52 PM
Having women on the Supreme Court is an absurdity, as is having an adulterer as the president. No one's claiming it's perfect, just that it's a solid improvement over RBG, that may end Roe v Wade. We'll see. 
Title: Re: Traditional Catholic Teaching & Amy Barrett on the Supreme Court
Post by: NaomhAdhamhnan on September 24, 2020, 02:58:27 AM
Another example is Kellyanne Conway and her out-of-control degenerate daughter. Why be a public conservative when your children are raised by strangers and turn into monsters?
Title: Re: Traditional Catholic Teaching & Amy Barrett on the Supreme Court
Post by: Ladislaus on September 24, 2020, 04:04:59 AM
It is indeed absolutely improper for a woman to be a “judge” over society and over men (apart from the vocational considerations you mention).  Thank you for the reminder.  We’ve just all been forced to make concessions like this in our godless society.
Title: Re: Traditional Catholic Teaching & Amy Barrett on the Supreme Court
Post by: ByzCat3000 on September 24, 2020, 04:48:32 AM
Not ideal, but I'm not gonna die on this hill right now.  Now if this whole nation was SSPX Catholic, sure, maybe.  Even then there might be a bigger issue.
Title: Re: Traditional Catholic Teaching & Amy Barrett on the Supreme Court
Post by: Ladislaus on September 24, 2020, 08:13:46 AM
Not ideal, but I'm not gonna die on this hill right now.  Now if this whole nation was SSPX Catholic, sure, maybe.  Even then there might be a bigger issue.

There's no need to "die," just point this out and move along.  It's important to remind ourselves of what things should look like in an ideal Catholics society, lest we forget the principles, but we're stuck with the society we live in and have to do our best with it.  Yet we have to avoid sliding to the point where we start believing certain things are OK or even get fooled into believing them to be idea simply because it's the best we can hope for in this anti-Catholic society we live in.  Obviously, all things being the same, I would prefer a strongly Pro Life female justice to a Pro-Abortion male any day.  But, as an ideal, every prospective appointee would be Pro Life and even Catholic, and so there would be plenty of qualified males to fill the position.

It's obvious that Trump is playing politics.  Selecting a female serves the purpose of softening the opposition toward her in that the Left will fear coming across as misogynists if they attack her too harshly (vs. what happened to Kavanaugh).  If Trump had found a conservative Black female who had the necessary qualifications and credibility, I'm sure he would have chosen her.
Title: Re: Traditional Catholic Teaching & Amy Barrett on the Supreme Court
Post by: Yeti on September 24, 2020, 08:44:01 AM
All of what you said is correct, but as you may have noticed, this country is desperately short on options that are any good. We're trying to make the best of what is basically an impossible situation.
Title: Re: Traditional Catholic Teaching & Amy Barrett on the Supreme Court
Post by: Clemens Maria on September 24, 2020, 09:33:26 AM
Maybe BC3000 is referring to the larger social context in our country and the world?  He would be right that to start objecting to her on the basis of her being female would be political death.  It is what it is.
Title: Re: Traditional Catholic Teaching & Amy Barrett on the Supreme Court
Post by: Cera on September 25, 2020, 01:08:27 PM
Another example is Kellyanne Conway and her out-of-control degenerate daughter. Why be a public conservative when your children are raised by strangers and turn into monsters?
Link to source?
Title: Re: Traditional Catholic Teaching & Amy Barrett on the Supreme Court
Post by: NaomhAdhamhnan on September 25, 2020, 02:02:45 PM
Link to source?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8489983/Kellyanne-Conways-daughter-15-slams-parents-blocking-freedom-speech.html
Title: Re: Traditional Catholic Teaching & Amy Barrett on the Supreme Court
Post by: NaomhAdhamhnan on September 25, 2020, 02:03:45 PM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8489983/Kellyanne-Conways-daughter-15-slams-parents-blocking-freedom-speech.html
Double-posted by accident.
Title: Re: Traditional Catholic Teaching & Amy Barrett on the Supreme Court
Post by: josefamenendez on September 25, 2020, 02:43:00 PM
Four things glaringly not good about Amy Coney Barrett:

She is a woman. It is a punishment from God that women should rule over men. (Certainly this says a lot about the state of men more than women.)

 Isaiah 3:12
"As for my people, their oppressors have stripped them, and women have ruled over them. O my people, they that call thee blessed, the same deceive thee, and destroy the way of thy steps."

She is a woman who chooses to not be with her children very much ( although she is wealthy and has live-in child care with a relative) She may be a great mother, but time constraints have to be in play. Her husband ( a lawyer as well) certainly has the means to support them without her working.

She is a graduate of Notre Dame law in the recent past and now a professor in good standing there . Fr Jenkins  (Lib Notre Dame president who hosted Obama) let dems know that she will not be overturning anything.

She is apparently a Charismatic NO Catholic and belongs to a charismatic group, "People of Praise". Yikes. 

We got stuck with Jesuit Kavanaugh who voted with the pro-aborts in the Louisiana case and Protty Gorsuch(meh)-middle of the road Kennedy type who doesn't have core beliefs. 
Can't put our trust in men (or women).

However, if she is our best bet to overturn Roe I will support her with bells on. If she even accepts the nomination, she may well be a saint knowing what will be done to her and her family.
Title: Re: Traditional Catholic Teaching & Amy Barrett on the Supreme Court
Post by: Beaumont on September 27, 2020, 11:08:24 AM
Look who drove the family to her announcement? She definitely wears the pants in the family.

https://twitter.com/kellyo/status/1309894866239881216?s=21 (https://twitter.com/kellyo/status/1309894866239881216?s=21)

And did anyone see when Trump announced her? She was up there thanking her husband as if he were a supportive housewife. Admitting that he did the majority of the work for their 7 kids as she was too busy! That he was a better “cook” than her.

This is completely humiliating and proof that Barrett doesn’t even live in a Christian ordered household. Her husband has been forced to take over primary caregiver duty for 7 children due to her career. Why do you choose to pursue a laborious time consuming legal career as your first priority over your own 7 children, one special needs, if you are a Catholic mother and wife?

Her priorities are completely upside down. She is a career woman whose career is obviously more important to her than her emasculated husband and kids. Her husband is a submissive caregiver to her 7 kids. And this is praised by the right.
Title: Re: Traditional Catholic Teaching & Amy Barrett on the Supreme Court
Post by: SeanJohnson on September 27, 2020, 12:13:57 PM
It’s a shame that Trump never considered for even a moment the possibility of appointing a man.

This reveals a certain weakness and lack of courage:

He feels himself bound by feminist pressure to appoint a woman.

I could only imagine a hiring manager in any other context declaring that only men will be considered for an opening.
Title: Re: Traditional Catholic Teaching & Amy Barrett on the Supreme Court
Post by: forlorn on September 27, 2020, 12:27:28 PM
It’s a shame that Trump never considered for even a moment the possibility of appointing a man.

This reveals a certain weakness and lack of courage:

He feels himself bound by feminist pressure to appoint a woman.

I could only imagine a hiring manager in any other context declaring that only men will be considered for an opening.
The GOP were clearly terrified of a Kavanaugh repeat so close to the election. They're also likely looking to harvest clips of the Dems attacking her to outrage suburban soccer moms.

Politics is a sneaky and underhanded business.
Title: Re: Traditional Catholic Teaching & Amy Barrett on the Supreme Court
Post by: Cera on September 27, 2020, 01:19:03 PM
It’s a shame that Trump never considered for even a moment the possibility of appointing a man.

This reveals a certain weakness and lack of courage:

He feels himself bound by feminist pressure to appoint a woman.

I could only imagine a hiring manager in any other context declaring that only men will be considered for an opening.
That's one way of looking at it. On the other hand, it could be that Trump is playing the other side into once again exposing their stupidity and hatefulness.
I seriously doubt that any feminists will be happy with a brilliant pro-life Catholic mother of 7 children.
Title: Re: Traditional Catholic Teaching & Amy Barrett on the Supreme Court
Post by: Cera on September 27, 2020, 01:22:08 PM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8489983/Kellyanne-Conways-daughter-15-slams-parents-blocking-freedom-speech.html
Thank you.
Title: Re: Traditional Catholic Teaching & Amy Barrett on the Supreme Court
Post by: Incredulous on September 27, 2020, 02:20:21 PM


She is apparently a Charismatic NO Catholic and belongs to a charismatic group, "People of Praise". Yikes.




                                         People of Praise
(https://peopleofpraise.org/inline/page/page/21/charismatic%20copy.jpg)
                                   Reminiscent of MC Hammer's old song "Pray"


Pray - MC Hammer 1990 (https://youtu.be/mye1aCskFcM)

                                         
Title: Re: Traditional Catholic Teaching & Amy Barrett on the Supreme Court
Post by: ByzCat3000 on September 30, 2020, 01:05:14 PM
Maybe BC3000 is referring to the larger social context in our country and the world?  He would be right that to start objecting to her on the basis of her being female would be political death.  It is what it is.
Essentially, yes.  I agree with Ladislaus that in a Catholic society, an anti abortion male would be chosen, period.  But I'm not going to object to Barrett given the sort of society we live in,  Nor am I going to hold Trump, a liberal leaning Presbyterian, to Catholic principles.

The only thing I could think of is that a female justice even violates natural law, but Im not certain of this, and even if so, there are bigger fish to fry, so to speak.

So I agree idealistically but I realize the game that's being played.