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Re: thoughts on the end of DACA (kids brought to US illegally)
« Reply #30 on: September 20, 2017, 11:09:55 AM »
And doesn't the Bible say "The sins of the fathers shall be visited upon his children"?


I really don't  see where that is entirely relevant?
the fact of the matter is that we are not Russia or North Korea
people have to come before "ideology" or ...?
now if people willfully violate the law, they should suffer the consequences.

if you will recal Hillary's excuse was that she didn't INTEND to violate US security.  If she can make that excuse (and there is no such excuse allowed for treason and crimes of that nature) then I think we can make such an "excuse" for innocent children (now grown) who had NO control over what was happening to them. I don't see why that is so hard to understand?

We cannot abuse people and justify it with "ideology" or "policy" (abuse being different from punish justifiably)

Re: thoughts on the end of DACA (kids brought to US illegally)
« Reply #31 on: September 20, 2017, 11:13:24 AM »
God's Word is not relevant???????????


Re: thoughts on the end of DACA (kids brought to US illegally)
« Reply #32 on: September 20, 2017, 11:22:21 AM »
God's Word is not relevant???????????
oh please
you sound like a Protestant

Re: thoughts on the end of DACA (kids brought to US illegally)
« Reply #33 on: September 20, 2017, 11:24:55 AM »
I really don't  see where that is entirely relevant?
the fact of the matter is that we are not Russia or North Korea
people have to come before "ideology" or ...?
now if people willfully violate the law, they should suffer the consequences.

if you will recal Hillary's excuse was that she didn't INTEND to violate US security.  If she can make that excuse (and there is no such excuse allowed for treason and crimes of that nature) then I think we can make such an "excuse" for innocent children (now grown) who had NO control over what was happening to them. I don't see why that is so hard to understand?

We cannot abuse people and justify it with "ideology" or "policy" (abuse being different from punish justifiably)
Russia and North Korea are irrelevant to this issue.

How are are we abusing anyone?  Sending a person to his legal homeland is not abuse.  A person has no right, morally or legally, to live in the United States.  

Speaking of "hard to understand", I don't see why you seem to think that not living in the United States is "punishment".
And doesn't the Bible say "The sins of the fathers shall be visited upon his children"?
It certainly does.

Of course, for many liberals, the very Word of God is anathema--and not relevant to any argument...even a moral argument.

The argument advanced by graceseeker is excactly the same argument advanced by proponents of abortion.  They also say that "forcing" a woman to carry an "unwanted" baby in her womb is punishment.  Consider those who say that abortion should be legal when pregnancy is the result of a rape.  They say the very same thing graceseeker says about DACA:  That such woman are completely innocent and shouldn't be "punished" [by being forced to carry her unborn baby to term].

Re: thoughts on the end of DACA (kids brought to US illegally)
« Reply #34 on: September 20, 2017, 11:36:13 AM »
Speaking of "hard to understand", I don't see why you seem to think that not living in the United States is "punishment"