Author Topic: This Hoax Affects Everyone (Read 2434 times)

Iuvenalis · « **Reply #1 on:** September 03, 2012, 03:37:45 PM »

The Dimond brothers?

Truth is Eternal · « **Reply #2 on:** September 03, 2012, 03:43:52 PM »

Quote from: Iuvenalis

The Dimond brothers?

My choosing not to vote has to do with the simple fact of the elections being rigged.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #3 on:** September 03, 2012, 03:59:40 PM »

The Dimonds are correct, the elections are rigged.

Iuvenalis · « **Reply #4 on:** September 03, 2012, 04:01:34 PM »

Quote from: Truth is Eternal

Quote from: Iuvenalis
The Dimond brothers?

My choosing not to vote has to do with the simple fact of the elections being rigged.

Even if the elections proceed *at face value* without conspiring the president is elected not by voters, but by electors. It always struck me as odd that this didn't bother more people than it does. Seems like only the 'tinfoil hat' crowd even cares.

poche · « **Reply #5 on:** September 04, 2012, 05:01:04 AM »

I think it's a mistake to not vote.

Truth is Eternal · « **Reply #6 on:** September 04, 2012, 11:31:31 AM »

Quote from: poche

I think it's a mistake to not vote.

Why do you think it is a mistake to refuse to support evil by not to voting in the rigged elections?

Iuvenalis · « **Reply #7 on:** September 04, 2012, 11:41:53 AM »

Besides, Democracy is a fad. Governments will someday return to monarhy after the chastisement (maybe before)

alaric · « **Reply #8 on:** September 04, 2012, 12:42:30 PM »

Quote from: Iuvenalis

Besides, Democracy is a fad. Governments will someday return to monarhy after the chastisement (maybe before)

I don't know about that, this "fad" has been around since the ancient Greeks.

Actually, pure Democracy is a very rare things these days.

We actually live in a Republican-style tyranny controlled by a very small segment of the population with the masses under the "illusion" they have a say about anything.

Belloc · « **Reply #9 on:** September 04, 2012, 01:07:39 PM »

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Quote from: Iuvenalis
The Dimond brothers?

My choosing not to vote has to do with the simple fact of the elections being rigged.

Likely, first election since turning 18 that I will not vote in, neither Thrid Party nor other.....maybe, if I do, for myself.....

Belloc · « **Reply #10 on:** September 04, 2012, 01:08:29 PM »

Quote from: poche

I think it's a mistake to not vote.

though that too at one time, now I say starve the beast, refuse to cooperate........

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #11 on:** September 04, 2012, 03:17:35 PM »

Quote from: poche

I think it's a mistake to not vote.

Our votes don't make a difference, so it would be a waste of time to vote.

Cera · « **Reply #12 on:** October 02, 2012, 05:32:53 PM »

Refusing to vote sends no message. I prefer to send a message: either a message to the Republicrats to shape up and stop pre-selecting a chosen one, (and stop engaging in fraud); or a message to the power elite that a third party is an option.

s2srea · « **Reply #13 on:** October 02, 2012, 05:52:42 PM »

Quote from: Iuvenalis

Quote from: Truth is Eternal
Quote from: Iuvenalis
The Dimond brothers?

My choosing not to vote has to do with the simple fact of the elections being rigged.

Even if the elections proceed *at face value* without conspiring the president is elected not by voters, but by electors. It always struck me as odd that this didn't bother more people than it does. Seems like only the 'tinfoil hat' crowd even cares.

The Electoral College was set up as a way to restrict the general populace from influencing politics. But, then, so was the Senate. The House of Representatives is the means by which 'the people' have the most direct influence on the governance of the land. Other parts of government were designed, by the founders of the US, to restrict public involvement and mob rule, which at the time was a recognized danger of democracy, even by founders. That's why we don't live in a democracy, proper, but a Republic.

Vandaler · « **Reply #14 on:** October 02, 2012, 06:26:37 PM »

I'm striken by the fact that what drives this entire thread is in fact poor math/statistical skills about what is significant sampling. Sampling size determines the margin of error and as long that the results are well outside the margin of error, it's absolutely possible to "project a winner".

Given that the result in South Carolina was very much in favor of Gingrich, a low sampling is required to establish this simple fact.

I stopped looking at the video at that point, the cluelessness having been established right from the start.

There is no substitute for education.