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Offline Mark 79

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« Reply #60 on: February 10, 2016, 06:04:59 PM »
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  • Quote from: OHCA
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    Racial and cultural differences mean certain races have more cultural accomplishments than others.


    Who cares? Do cultural accomplishments gain Heaven?


    I care about myself and my family not encountering a negroe's cultural accomplishment known as the "shank" in a dark alley.  I care about my family not being exposed to their cultural "accomplishments" in music and fashion as well.

    Also, as demonstrated by the recent Super Bowl, their limited sense of decorum, sportsmanship, etc., neither.  Basically not anything about their method of attempting to navigate civilization and blend in as human beings.

    I know there are some decent human beings, and some good moral Catholics among them.  But there is, unfortunately, a large percentage who behave like savages from the streets to the limelights.


    Most of us are able to avoid dark alleys. In other threads, I have discussed my preferences for concealed carry.

    I haven't owned a тαℓмυdvision in many years, but when I did, it had both a channel selector and an "off" switch. For our family, all the Superbowl ʝʊdɛօ-Luciferianism was easily avoided.

    "Behave like savages" is the key concept.

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    « Reply #61 on: February 10, 2016, 06:24:14 PM »
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    It seems that the best you can do is try to insult my ethnic background. I take comfort in knowing that I actually know something about world cultures. I laugh at your outdated, comically-stereotypical understanding of world cultures. It is as though you learned about Africa from watching old Tarzan films.

    Racial purity is a myth. It is a bad game, in which the only winning move is not to play.

    How about a nice game of chess?


    If it makes you feel any better please destroy America as quickly as possible by taking it over. :smile: "I take comfort...in knowing that I actually know about...culture." From a modern perspective you do which makes you a brainwashed mestizo mutt and a stupid Goy who serves the Jews' interests. However traditionally true science (science before 1940 when it comes to biology) would prove me correct in saying that the lighter your skin color, the higher you are on a racial scale, while the darker your skin color the lower you are.

    "Where is Germany's Bach...Haydn..." As I said I am no Marxist so I believe in responsibility and performance. By that standard a man of that caliber only comes once in a blue moon.

    "This response is purely subjective..."

    Just look at the culture provided by certain races and you can see a natural progressing hierarchy:

    Black Australians:

    Equatorial Negroes:

    Mongoloid:

    Mestizo:

    Eurasian:

    Mulatto:

    Afro-Asian:

    Zambo:

    Semites:

    Hamites:

    Mediterraneans:

    Chinese:

    Japanese:

    Germanic:


    One photo of each ethnicity reveals nothing of a culture as a whole. It does not cover cultural ability of a people.

    Science is ever changing, because science is humanity's view of the world. It has not the infallibility of the Church, and is lesser in its essence than the theology of the Church. The science you hold so highly is based on anti-Catholic and enlightenment era ideals.

    You persist in insulting me, which is indicative of someone who has no logical or reasonable counter argument.


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    « Reply #62 on: February 10, 2016, 09:12:00 PM »
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    You persist in insulting me, which is indicative of someone who has no logical or reasonable counter argument.


    No--it is not at all indicative of that.  It just means that in addition to not agreeing with your freemasonic/jew/NWO view on race, he recognizes that you are a mutt.  Plus, pointing out that you are a mutt unmasks your motive and bias in this discussion.  If mutts and negroes are so grand, why is it that they are always having to convince white people instead of the other way around?  Why don't they have nice things and exclude white people instead of the other way around?  Why is black on white crime so high if they have equal culture, morals, etc.?

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    « Reply #63 on: February 10, 2016, 09:40:26 PM »
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  • I have told you many times of my rational counter-argument but you refuse to listen. Those pictures alone serve as an argument to further my point that race DOES matter. I can show you countless pictures of all groups to show which groups show less cultural ability.

    Now I do agree with you in that certain countries do not have "pure races" such as England, Germany, Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, Greece, etc. but again it depends on the severity of the admixture in their blood. As OHCA correctly says I mention you are mestizo because that gives you a bias in looking at this. I also point that out since you have continually downgraded Germany and since I am Germanic myself I decided to do the same. :wink:

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    « Reply #64 on: February 10, 2016, 09:45:38 PM »
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    Thanks for this post. I usually make a big deal abpout xenophobia like Manuel is, but I don't see this Japanese sentiment as racism or xenophobia, ect. I see them in a mode of self preservation and patriotism. I don't see this attitude as beeing specifically against Catholic teaching if it is promoted within Japan or any other country. There are limits and boundaries as to how far this hsould go, of course. I don't think that two catholics seeking marriage in the Catholic Church and of different ethnic groups should be incarcerated or punished. If, however, they have to pay an extra fee for a marriage license to dicourage this, I see nothing wrong with this. (Keep in mind that I am American and my wife is Brazilian.)

    The post should have focused on the Catholic culture among the Japanese. For example, it's a well known fact that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the two most Catholic cities in Japan and probably selected for that reason (unknown martyrs?). In fact, the southern cities had a strong Catholic influence, but the Dutch were always trying to provoke problems between the Japanese Catholics and the emperors. (Those horrible Portuguese sailors that we here about in secular education were not the culprits.) the Dutch were tagged up with the Jews in the slave trade, that even included the Japanese. The Church would step in, and they didn't want that.

    I did a short article on this, but today I don't have time to translate it. I have a Japanese EFL student in five minutes. Tchau.

    The Shimabara "Rebellion".
    http://brasildogmadafe.blogspot.com.br/2016/01/rebeliao-de-shimabara-e-amakusaos.html




    I heard somewhere that Germany had a very Catholic working class and from this thread it seems Japan may have had a deep rooted Catholicism in their working class as well. I will look into this and post my findings here but some food for thought: Both Japan and Germany supposedly had a strong Catholic working class at the time of WW2 and they both accomplished many feats during this time. Maybe that's why the West jumped down their throats so hard?  :scratchchin:


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    « Reply #65 on: February 10, 2016, 10:05:55 PM »
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    I heard somewhere that Germany had a very Catholic working class and from this thread it seems Japan may have had a deep rooted Catholicism in their working class as well. I will look into this and post my findings here but some food for thought: Both Japan and Germany supposedly had a strong Catholic working class at the time of WW2 and they both accomplished many feats during this time. Maybe that's why the West jumped down their throats so hard?  :scratchchin:


    Well Japan is only 2% Roman Catholic but the cultural values I was speaking of like hard work, determination, etc. is what Japanese respect about the Germans and try to copy themselves along with them seeing a similar culture. Germany at the time of WWII was still 60-65% Protestant, mostly Lutheran and 35% Roman Catholic though I am not sure what it was amongst the working-class Germans. Nowadays Germany is more Roman Catholic than Protestant since the Soviets took over former Protestant areas and made them atheist.

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    « Reply #66 on: February 10, 2016, 10:07:50 PM »
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    You persist in insulting me, which is indicative of someone who has no logical or reasonable counter argument.


    No--it is not at all indicative of that.  It just means that in addition to not agreeing with your freemasonic/jew/NWO view on race, he recognizes that you are a mutt.  Plus, pointing out that you are a mutt unmasks your motive and bias in this discussion.  If mutts and negroes are so grand, why is it that they are always having to convince white people instead of the other way around?  Why don't they have nice things and exclude white people instead of the other way around?  Why is black on white crime so high if they have equal culture, morals, etc.?


    More unfounded and uncharitable attacks ... I am not surprised. It is your modus operandi, and it is very unfortunate. If you were only able to look beyond your petty insults, you may yet realize that this is a battle for the faith. Open your eyes and see that what Traditional Guy 20 is peddling is not Catholic in any sense.

    You have failed to elucidate which of my views are "freemasonic/jew/NWO" or how they can be described as such. I am not influenced by any of those groups. I am influenced by the Church and by the Scriptures.

    I can show that many of Traditional Guy 20's notions are anti-Catholic in nature, and that he holds his notions of science as equal to the teaching and practices of the Church. Trad Guy shares a number of ideas with the 18th century philosopher Christoph Meiners, which is classified as scientific racism. Scientific racism is derived from enlightenment ideals, and from a Germany polluted by Protestantism as well as the "enlightenment" and atheistic western philosophy, which are attacks on the teachings of Holy Mother Church.  Scientific racism and the theory of evolution are connected, as many of the early evolutionists also believed in racial purity and superiority.

    I have also shown examples of how the notion of racial purity is a godless myth. Certain cultures at certain times have been more productive than other cultures, but this does not equate to a superiority of genetics or "race".

    I am not acting out of bias in this matter. I know what the Church teaches and practices, and I am aware that what Trad Guy promotes is not Catholic at all. I suggest the two of you do more research, and reconsider your actions.

    Culture and "having nice things" are not solely determined by "race". There are many more factors to consider; location, availability of resources, interaction with other ethnic groups, religion, etc.

    Above all, charity. We fight for the faith, which is above all cultures, and should be embraced by all cultures. Our Church is multi-ethnic and of mixed ethnicities. Let us follow the model of the Church, and put aside the vain and godless notions of a pure or superior race.

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    « Reply #67 on: February 10, 2016, 10:11:22 PM »
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    As I read more into the concept of race as a science, it appears to be based not on Catholic theology, but on reformation era ideas, the Enlightenment and the Protestant revolt. The work of Christoph Meiners comes to mind, and his ideas can be seen as precursors to Traditional Guy 20's own ideas on race.

    I do not take my understanding of my neighbor from a heretical thinker as Voltaire, or from Franz Boaz, but from Holy Mother Church. You should read up on your faith, and spend less time on the myth of racial purity and superiority.


    Nice on ignoring everything I said. I will ask yet again do you consider Blacks superior in cultural ability to Germanic people or Japanese?



    Europe held the mantle of Catholicism while Africans did not. In essence you're comparing the writing skills of a middle school teenager to a college graduate with a masters.


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    « Reply #68 on: February 10, 2016, 10:20:13 PM »
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    You persist in insulting me, which is indicative of someone who has no logical or reasonable counter argument.


    No--it is not at all indicative of that.  It just means that in addition to not agreeing with your freemasonic/jew/NWO view on race, he recognizes that you are a mutt.  Plus, pointing out that you are a mutt unmasks your motive and bias in this discussion.  If mutts and negroes are so grand, why is it that they are always having to convince white people instead of the other way around?  Why don't they have nice things and exclude white people instead of the other way around?  Why is black on white crime so high if they have equal culture, morals, etc.?


    More unfounded and uncharitable attacks ... I am not surprised. It is your modus operandi, and it is very unfortunate. If you were only able to look beyond your petty insults, you may yet realize that this is a battle for the faith. Open your eyes and see that what Traditional Guy 20 is peddling is not Catholic in any sense.

    You have failed to elucidate which of my views are "freemasonic/jew/NWO" or how they can be described as such. I am not influenced by any of those groups. I am influenced by the Church and by the Scriptures.

    I can show that many of Traditional Guy 20's notions are anti-Catholic in nature, and that he holds his notions of science as equal to the teaching and practices of the Church. Trad Guy shares a number of ideas with the 18th century philosopher Christoph Meiners, which is classified as scientific racism. Scientific racism is derived from enlightenment ideals, and from a Germany polluted by Protestantism as well as the "enlightenment" and atheistic western philosophy, which are attacks on the teachings of Holy Mother Church.  Scientific racism and the theory of evolution are connected, as many of the early evolutionists also believed in racial purity and superiority.

    I have also shown examples of how the notion of racial purity is a godless myth. Certain cultures at certain times have been more productive than other cultures, but this does not equate to a superiority of genetics or "race".

    I am not acting out of bias in this matter. I know what the Church teaches and practices, and I am aware that what Trad Guy promotes is not Catholic at all. I suggest the two of you do more research, and reconsider your actions.

    Culture and "having nice things" are not solely determined by "race". There are many more factors to consider; location, availability of resources, interaction with other ethnic groups, religion, etc.

    Above all, charity. We fight for the faith, which is above all cultures, and should be embraced by all cultures. Our Church is multi-ethnic and of mixed ethnicities. Let us follow the model of the Church, and put aside the vain and godless notions of a pure or superior race.


    "freemasonic/jew/NWO" -- These are the forces pushing race-mixing, affirmative action, bussing, integration, etc. measures to artificially mix-up and "equalize" the races.

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    « Reply #69 on: February 10, 2016, 10:20:29 PM »
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    I have told you many times of my rational counter-argument but you refuse to listen. Those pictures alone serve as an argument to further my point that race DOES matter. I can show you countless pictures of all groups to show which groups show less cultural ability.

    Now I do agree with you in that certain countries do not have "pure races" such as England, Germany, Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, Greece, etc. but again it depends on the severity of the admixture in their blood. As OHCA correctly says I mention you are mestizo because that gives you a bias in looking at this. I also point that out since you have continually downgraded Germany and since I am Germanic myself I decided to do the same. :wink:


    The "Jews" insist that facts may only come from sources that they have vetted.

    You are doing the same. You arrogate to yourself the authority to disqualify a discernibly charitable and patient Catholic man, discounting his excellent sensus catholicus simply because he does not pass your racial purity test.

    Remember that I am the guy who is so white that I can get a sunburn at nighttime.

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    « Reply #70 on: February 10, 2016, 10:22:43 PM »
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    "Jews" insist that facts may only come from sources that they have vetted.

    You are doing the same. You arrogate to yourself the authority to disqualify a discernibly charitable and patient Catholic man, discounting his excellent sensus catholicus simply because he does not pass your racial purity test.

    Remember that I am the guy who is so white that I can get a sunburn at nighttime.


    That means nothing.

    The English are also "so white" and yet are the Jew among Germanic peoples.

    lol you obviously have no knowledge of what this mestizo has been saying so you have no authority to lecture me on such matters as showing "charity."


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    « Reply #71 on: February 10, 2016, 10:23:18 PM »
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  • OHCA, Trad Guy;


    You guys can't expect anyone to take you seriously when there is nothing but insults spewing from your mouth. Leave the fact-less insult fights to the Protestants, they're better at it anyway. But back to my point, say your piece and present your argument. Let the readers decide and see if they agree with you rather than insulting someone for making some very valid points. It's childish and petty.


    As for the racial supremacy thing, you do realize that Catholic means universal, right?

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    « Reply #72 on: February 10, 2016, 10:26:23 PM »
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    OHCA, Trad Guy;


    You guys can't expect anyone to take you seriously when there is nothing but insults spewing from your mouth. Leave the fact-less insult fights to the Protestants, they're better at it anyway. But back to my point, say your piece and present your argument. Let the readers decide and see if they agree with you rather than insulting someone for making some very valid points. It's childish and petty.


    As for the racial supremacy thing, you do realize that Catholic means universal, right?


    If you would have read this post at the beginning you would have seen this mestizo started making baseless accusations when I did not mention race in a Germanic context and only mentioned Japan. It was he who decided to make this into "a race thing" by making sure he trolled my thread.

    As for charity I believe a man who is kind in the face of attacks is a weak man and effeminate.

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    « Reply #73 on: February 10, 2016, 10:29:36 PM »
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    Europe held the mantle of Catholicism while Africans did not. In essence you're comparing the writing skills of a middle school teenager to a college graduate with a masters.


    And you just proved my point on which culture is superior then.

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    « Reply #74 on: February 10, 2016, 10:37:34 PM »
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    I can show that many of Traditional Guy 20's notions are anti-Catholic in nature, and that he holds his notions of science as equal to the teaching and practices of the Church. Trad Guy shares a number of ideas with the 18th century philosopher Christoph Meiners, which is classified as scientific racism. Scientific racism is derived from enlightenment ideals, and from a Germany polluted by Protestantism as well as the "enlightenment" and atheistic western philosophy, which are attacks on the teachings of Holy Mother Church.  Scientific racism and the theory of evolution are connected, as many of the early evolutionists also believed in racial purity and superiority.

    I have also shown examples of how the notion of racial purity is a godless myth. Certain cultures at certain times have been more productive than other cultures, but this does not equate to a superiority of genetics or "race".

    I am not acting out of bias in this matter. I know what the Church teaches and practices, and I am aware that what Trad Guy promotes is not Catholic at all. I suggest the two of you do more research, and reconsider your actions.

    Culture and "having nice things" are not solely determined by "race". There are many more factors to consider; location, availability of resources, interaction with other ethnic groups, religion, etc.

    Above all, charity. We fight for the faith, which is above all cultures, and should be embraced by all cultures. Our Church is multi-ethnic and of mixed ethnicities. Let us follow the model of the Church, and put aside the vain and godless notions of a pure or superior race.


    I find it funny that you say "I have shown" when you have shown absolutely nothing. As for all your blabbering I realise a brainwashed buffoon like you would automatically give the connotation of Germany = Protestant. Your views on religion is a species of Marxism as you believe in racial and social equality.