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Author Topic: The Martyrs' Stand: Choosing Christ Over Compromise in Today's Political Land  (Read 9439 times)

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Offline NishantXavier

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  • I was as joyful as anyone when Roe V Wade was overturned but gradually saw it as a uniparty tactic to reinvigorate the two party system that many were finally beginning to see through. For decades the muh constitution conservatives saw this as a states rights issue and I imagine the powers that be relented thinking the matter would at last be laid to rest.

    The powers that be didn't "relent" to anything. We beat them, crushed them and defeated them, by better planning and a better long term strategy (like with the conservative legal movement, appointing the best judges, refusing to fill Scalia's seat before the election, then filling Ginsburg's anyway - getting 3 appointments in one term that way) and they submissively accepted our victory because they had no other choice. Now, we need to push on to complete victory.

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    Alas, the joos, without missing a heartbeat, have found workarounds to provide surgical abortions to any of the evil women who want them. As promiscuity increases from a generation raised on porn and Taylor Swift there will be more sacrifices to moloch. The same Supreme Court that overturned Roe just ruled that over the counter abortion pills, which account for 60+% of the evil act are legal.
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    Yes, all that must be dealt with. For that, we need control of the courts. Trump basically outsourced to Catholics at the federalist society all his appointments, basically allowing them to appoint whoever they wanted to. They recommended good judges, he appointed them, and we got the Roe v Wade victory. Now, press on forward, and keep pushing for more, like more judges, more severe abortion restrictions, until the end goal of final abolition.

    With Trump, things go forward. With Hillary, America would have been lost by now if she had won 2016 and got 3 appointments. Elections matter. They have consequences. With Kamala/Walz things will go backward by a mile.

    "We Don’t Talk About Leonard: The Man Behind the Right’s Supreme Court Supermajority
    The inside story of how Leonard Leo built a machine that remade the American legal system — and what he plans to do next." https://www.propublica.org/article/we-dont-talk-about-leonard-leo-supreme-court-supermajority

    Leonard Leo is a faithful Catholic whom Trump empowered and who is responsible for the supermajority we currently enjoy in the courts. See that you do your part to ensure we pro-life Catholics retain that supermajority.

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  • That's the same as saying that a person who shops at Walmart is responsible for the communism in China because that's where all the goods are made, by slaves.

    On the other hand, if I consented by my vote and endorsedt Xi Jinping as president, knowing his communist agenda, that would be directly on me.
    Double effect applies in both scenarios. When you buy a good at Walmart, your intention is to pay the money and so fairly compensate whoever made it (the intended primary effect), not to support Communism or Xi Jinping in any way (the unintended double effect). Similarly, with those who support Trump-Vance, the intention is (1) to get more pro life judges appointed, both to the Supreme court, and federal courts. (2) to STOP Communism, because Kamala/Walz will persecute and prosecute pro-lifers, as already happens in Britain, (3) to register other pro life wins on the board, like a possible 15 week federal ban Trump-Vance may sign once they get into office. Any other unintended secondary side effect is beside the point and is more than justified based on the Thomistic doctrine of double effect taught by St. Thomas Aquinas and by numerous pre-Vatican II Roman Catholic theologians.


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  • Michelle-  This is my last response. I think neither of us have the time to continue this conversation. You can have the last response.

    Jesus chose judas although Jesus knew judas was a devil. Jesus said "is", not will be a devil, but "is a devil. Jesus chose judas in spite of judas being a devil. The sins of judas are not the responsibility of Jesus, Jesus is not accountable for the choices judas makes, although Jesus knows what those choices of judas will be. Jesus allowed, chose judas to remain with power and authority as an Apostle. In this election, I vote against the less dangerous politician; I am not responsible for the sinful choices of the politicians in office because I did not vote for the politician in order for him to commit various sins.
    71 Jesus answered them: Have not I chosen you twelve; and one of you is a devil  [John 6:71] 72 Now he meant Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon: for this same was about to betray him, whereas he was one of the twelve.

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  • Michelle-  This is my last response. I think neither of us have the time to continue this conversation. You can have the last response.

    Jesus chose judas although Jesus knew judas was a devil. Jesus said "is", not will be a devil, but "is a devil. Jesus chose judas in spite of judas being a devil. The sins of judas are not the responsibility of Jesus, Jesus is not accountable for the choices judas makes, although Jesus knows what those choices of judas will be. Jesus allowed, chose judas to remain with power and authority as an Apostle. In this election, I vote against the less dangerous politician; I am not responsible for the sinful choices of the politicians in office because I did not vote for the politician in order for him to commit various sins.
    71 Jesus answered them: Have not I chosen you twelve; and one of you is a devil  [John 6:71] 72 Now he meant Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon: for this same was about to betray him, whereas he was one of the twelve.

    Jesus as God made all of us knowing the majority would wilfully reject Him, He gives every soul sufficient grace but most will not correspond.  We, on the other hand, are not God and can only judge by fruits.  We are commanded to judge justly " by their fruits you shall know them."  As a Catholic, I can never endorse someone who promotes sins against the natural law, such as sodomy, abortion in any circuмstance or genocide of a certain race of people. Not to mention the whole Warpspeed agenda, shutting down small businesses, injecting the masses with poison.