Author Topic: The Great Catholic Monarch (Read 14414 times)

Dylan · « **on:** July 21, 2009, 12:58:26 PM »

I was wondering what others here think about the prophecies of the Great Catholic Monarch.

I've heard people say that these are "false prophecies" and "contradict the Bible about the Last Days".

Your thoughts?

sedetrad · « **Reply #1 on:** July 21, 2009, 02:32:23 PM »

Considering that hundreds of saints have written prophesies about this figure, I wouldn't call them false prophesies as it would be akin to calling all those saints liars.

TheD · « **Reply #2 on:** July 21, 2009, 02:35:38 PM »

I actually own the book "Catholic Prophecies" by Yves Dupont and I highly recommend it. But I have a hard time believing that the era of peace will be so short. I think Fr. Sylvester Berry is correct when he says it should last from 400-500 years.

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #3 on:** July 21, 2009, 04:06:51 PM »

I haven't read the Yves DuPont book, but my mother has, and the way I understand it, the monarch's reign will only be about 35 years before the antichrist comes.

sedetrad · « **Reply #4 on:** July 21, 2009, 04:11:06 PM »

The way I understand it is that it will take only 1 generation for mankind to fall back into the snares of the devil or anti-christ.

Dylan · « **Reply #5 on:** July 21, 2009, 04:36:31 PM »

Quote from: sedetrad

Considering that hundreds of saints have written prophesies about this figure, I wouldn't call them false prophesies as it would be akin to calling all those saints liars.

That's what I thought as well but, I'm not too familiar with the subject myself.

Does anyone have any online resources about the Monarch? Also, how does the coming of the Monarch align with the time frame of the last days given in the Bible?

Thanks.

TheD · « **Reply #6 on:** July 22, 2009, 12:36:59 PM »

Here is a sedevacantist link:
http://www.todayscatholicworld.com/great-catholic-monarch.htm

TheD · « **Reply #7 on:** July 22, 2009, 12:40:41 PM »

In terms of the Bible I believe there was a Saint who compared the churches in Apocalypse Chapter 2 to different time periods in the Church. (ie: The Church at Sardis is from 1517-the time of the great monarch.)

TheD · « **Reply #8 on:** July 22, 2009, 01:29:24 PM »

Here is the full information it is by Ven. Bartholomew Holzauser:

Interpretatio Apocalypsis usque ad cap. XV, v. 5, 1784, Bamberg. It includes the seven ages of the Church:
Ephesus: status seminativus or the first age of the Church, from Christ and the Apostles to Pope Linus and Emperor Nero.
Smyrna: status irrigativus or the second age of the Church, the days of persecution.
Pergamum: status illuminativus or the third age of the Church, from Pope Sylvester to Leo III.
Thyatira: status pacifitcus or the fourth age of the Church from Leo III to Leo X.
Sardis: status afflictionis et purgativus or the fifth age of the Church, from Leo X to a strong ruler or grand monarch and a Holy Pope.
Philadelphia: status consolationis of the sixth age of the Church, from that Holy Pope to the rise of Antichrist.
Laodicea: status desolationis are the seventh and last age of the Church, from the rise of the Antichrist to the Second Comming.

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #9 on:** July 22, 2009, 10:23:06 PM »

Quote from: TheD

Here is a sedevacantist link:
http://www.todayscatholicworld.com/great-catholic-monarch.htm

They are not sede vacant.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #10 on:** July 23, 2009, 01:04:06 AM »

Quote from: Dylan

Your thoughts?

If he is coming, I hope he arrives soon.

Truly, I believe the prophecies are legitimate, and we have already entered the period, painful though it will be, that will purify the world.

Dylan · « **Reply #11 on:** August 10, 2009, 03:39:28 PM »

This is speech Richard Ibranyi says that there will not be a universal conversion to Catholicism under the Great Monarch:

Thoughts?

Matthew · « **Reply #12 on:** August 10, 2009, 04:14:43 PM »

Quote from: TheD

I actually own the book "Catholic Prophecies" by Yves Dupont and I highly recommend it. But I have a hard time believing that the era of peace will be so short. I think Fr. Sylvester Berry is correct when he says it should last from 400-500 years.

No, it's easy to believe it will be short. People forget anything they haven't seen themselves.

People who were alive in during the (first) Great Depression are SO MUCH DIFFERENT from teenagers today. Look at how everything those people learned has already been lost. No matter how frugal, how holy, how down-to-earth, how hard-working they were, in only TWO GENERATIONS you have illiterate, lazy teenagers sitting in front of the TV/computer all day eating convenience food and scarcely knowing what work is.

Anything is possible after 50 years.

For another, more potent example, look at the Old Testament. No matter how fervently the Israelites came back to God, they always fell about 40 years later, because your parents can't learn a lesson FOR you.

Matthew

TheD · « **Reply #13 on:** August 10, 2009, 05:14:20 PM »

Good point. The difference between our generation and the one that lived through the depression is almost polar opposite.

Belloc · « **Reply #14 on:** August 12, 2009, 08:23:41 AM »

Quote from: Dylan

I was wondering what others here think about the prophecies of the Great Catholic Monarch.

I've heard people say that these are "false prophecies" and "contradict the Bible about the Last Days".

Your thoughts?

There is the King and Chastisement some yrs prior to the Antichrist.does not contradict at all.......as others note in this thread, too many saints have talked about it to dismiss it.....