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Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: StCeciliasGirl on December 19, 2013, 09:07:56 PM
I'm not the one to do this since I don't watch Disney channels by choice, so I haven't seen this apparently-popular "reality show" called Duck Dynasty, in which the lead male ("reality"?  :scratchchin: ), who is said to lead family prayer in every episode, was interviewed by a magazine and, due to "anti-gαy slurs" (sic), was fired by A&E (Disney), and the internet blew up into some ...Christian versus Hollywood (?) battle.

The "stars" (in case you're as unfamiliar as I was):

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The offensive words, from an interview with GQ, as reported by CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/19/showbiz/duck-dynasty-suspension/). (I'll edit out the offensive stuff with my words in brackets:)

Quote from: CNN reporting on Phil of Duck Dynasty

"It seems like, to me, a [woman's anatomy] -- as a man -- would be more desirable than a [man's anatomy.] That's just me. I'm just thinking: There's more there! She's got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I'm saying? But hey, sin: It's not logical, my man. It's just not logical," he's quoted as saying.

When asked what he thought was sinful, Robertson replied: "Start with ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men."

But ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs aren't alone, Robertson said. "Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers -- they won't inherit the kingdom of God. Don't deceive yourself. It's not right."


Okay, "Duck Dynasty" is not really something I care to watch regardless, but again, most of what's on TV is something I take a pass on. I do think people should boycott (and not make a big deal out of it — just do it) anything by Disney Corp., which includes A&E and so much more than TV. I don't write letters, talk about it, etc. I just don't participate. However, I do feel A&E firing this man for, essentially, quoting scripture (such as it is, but it IS Scripture; the meaning is there), is a definite sign of persecution that we all knew was coming. It's just headlines now.

I'm not sure we should in any way endorse these Duck people. They're rich; they've been PAID by Disney for a long time (A&E, Disney, same thing). I'm really in a quandary! I'd really love to support the general principle of "free speech" with regard to religion since, obviously, the U.S. has problems in this area, and I pray fervently for Our Lord to afford people everywhere the ability to worship His Holy Name without hindrance. But I don't know how, or if they're the right people to endorse, even! (Remember that Jim Jones fellow, before I was born, who was supposedly Christian, and led the way to mass ѕυιcιdєs/murders. I don't want to support that! I want to KNOW what I'm supporting. You know?)

Anyone else have some information on this thing? What do you think a responsible Catholic should be ...doing? If anything? Thank you.
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: Thorn on December 19, 2013, 10:01:49 PM
I'm already boycotting Disney from way back.  Anyone know that Walt Disney was a Socialist?  Anyone care?
I don't watch Duck Dynasty but gave my two cents on Huffington Post.  I thought I was quite reasonable, saying that since 'they' don't consider what they're doing to be sinful, then what's the problem?  'They' can have free speech but we can't?!    I mostly got slammed for that.    I happened to catch Rush this morning and he said just what I had posted!!  So I'm not alone.

Signing a petition wouldn't hurt.
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: StCeciliasGirl on December 19, 2013, 11:04:27 PM
Yes, I boycott Disney and its properties, too. What they did to Britney and Miley was heartbreaking, and that was before I started giving birth.  :cry: I mean really, I don't pray for celebrities, unless they're children, and I guess my prayers just weren't in God's will; God's will happened and I accepted it. (I had merely wanted some good "role models" for my future children, and instead got "What NOT to do EVER". Which may be a blessing in disguise ("See what entertainment does to a child?!").

I'm not sure how these shows get picked up. As I've admitted to, I've watched the horrifying "Honey Boo Boo" which, for all the terrible things I've seen, is 15 minutes of my life I wish I had back, as you can't unsee or even explain such things. You pray it's all some sick writers' idea of a script, but then you see people in local stores and you wonder, and I'm been making my secret "cross yourself in your palm" sign everytime I pass a potential mother/daughter cursing and laughing at each other over [explicit] in store aisles. I find I'm just avoiding stores, or do what I used to criticize others for doing: turning my head the other way. It's too much for me.

I suppose I'll look for a petition  :smile: though I also imagine such things are just a way to "round up them varmint Christian folk". Oh well; we've got to be rounded up sometime!

Now, to find the appropriate petition. Thank you Thorn. :-)
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: parentsfortruth on December 19, 2013, 11:44:38 PM
Quote from: Thorn
I'm already boycotting Disney from way back.  


This is what I've been doing since their so-called "children's movies" had embed images put in them. All the way back that I knew of at that time, in 1989. I was 13. My mother was awake and hungry for the truth at that time. It was from the movie "The Little Mermaid" that the boycott began for my immediate family.

Do I even need to mention Miramax Film's movie, "Priest?"

Did you know that Disney picked a producer for a children's movie that was a convicted pedophile, and would pay him to produce a movie geared for children, of all people, rather than some wholesome person?

Anyone remember when Michael Eisner (steaming bowl of atheistic Jєω) was in charge of Disney?

Have people heard of "gαy Day" over at Disneyland?

A constant barrage of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ flag waving has come from Disney for many, many years. I've had so much pressure over the years, especially at family gatherings on my husband's side of the family (who are all protestants, by the way) trying to get me to have my children attend Disney movies in the theater during Thanksgiving and Christmas. Even my traditional Catholic mother in law was showing them Disney movies behind my back at her home, despite my insistence that she not do so.

I can't tell you how many pieces of clothing made it into my garbage can because they contained an image of a Disney character on them, no matter how "nice" such a piece was.

I've been an opponent of Disney for a very long time. I'm glad they did something to a man that had the courage to speak out against the vile crime of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, because now maybe people will delve deeper into the sinister, abject filth of this company, and STOP GIVING THEM MONEY.

Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: crossbro on December 20, 2013, 12:03:19 AM

I guess the homophiles now get to tell me what I can and cannot watch on TV.
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: Frances on December 20, 2013, 12:05:26 AM
 :tv-disturbed:People actually watch this stuff?!!!!
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: crossbro on December 20, 2013, 12:10:17 AM
Quote from: Frances
:tv-disturbed:People actually watch this stuff?!!!!


I tried to watch it and could only stand about 5 minutes. but I am watching FOX and Sean just stated it was the most popular show on TV.
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: Ambrose on December 20, 2013, 01:55:34 AM
I do not care about this t.v. show, but this controversy is only further proof that the supporters of this sin are quickly becoming the dominant political and social class in America.  

The intolerance for those that will not bend to their will and publicly accept sodomy is only going to get more aggressive.  I find it ironic that these people always pretended to want us to tolerate them, now that they are taking control of America, they are quickly becoming the persecutors.
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: Thorn on December 20, 2013, 01:55:53 AM
Yes, crossbro, & they already do.





























Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: StCeciliasGirl on December 20, 2013, 01:57:59 AM
Good for you, parents. I'm not sure of the link between Looney Tunes and Disney, but I never enjoyed Looney Tunes much, either. My husband does, and our music professor, for the music. I've never seen any of those movies or films you mentioned. We're very anti-Disney. We've used pre-Disney things (can't remember what now), but the minute Disney bought the rights, IN THE GARBAGE they went. We've refused Disneyland/world tickets, as well.

Yes, "Duck Dynasty" is apparently very popular; I don't quite understand the reason. I suppose it's not bad to have a praying father (better than most things out there, maybe); I just don't know what else they do.

I'm not sure how many people know Disney is behind A&E, either. I cherry-pick very carefully, and so I knew that association. I was attempt-bullied (LOL) into watching Duck Dynasty many months ago, and just said I had better things to do with my time. I was shunned. So I just stayed away.

I hate to not support something that might be anti-Disney, but the petition is about as far as I can reasonably go. I've seen people saying they've never watched it, but will, if it moves to a new channel. I just can't imagine it would be entertaining in any event (much less edifying). I don't mind brainless entertainment occasionally, but I just don't understand the premise behind this show besides "watch newly rich people go hunting"???
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: Lover of Truth on December 20, 2013, 10:11:21 AM
Quote from: parentsfortruth
Quote from: Thorn
I'm already boycotting Disney from way back.  


This is what I've been doing since their so-called "children's movies" had embed images put in them. All the way back that I knew of at that time, in 1989. I was 13. My mother was awake and hungry for the truth at that time. It was from the movie "The Little Mermaid" that the boycott began for my immediate family.

Do I even need to mention Miramax Film's movie, "Priest?"

Did you know that Disney picked a producer for a children's movie that was a convicted pedophile, and would pay him to produce a movie geared for children, of all people, rather than some wholesome person?

Anyone remember when Michael Eisner (steaming bowl of atheistic Jєω) was in charge of Disney?

Have people heard of "gαy Day" over at Disneyland?

A constant barrage of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ flag waving has come from Disney for many, many years. I've had so much pressure over the years, especially at family gatherings on my husband's side of the family (who are all protestants, by the way) trying to get me to have my children attend Disney movies in the theater during Thanksgiving and Christmas. Even my traditional Catholic mother in law was showing them Disney movies behind my back at her home, despite my insistence that she not do so.

I can't tell you how many pieces of clothing made it into my garbage can because they contained an image of a Disney character on them, no matter how "nice" such a piece was.

I've been an opponent of Disney for a very long time. I'm glad they did something to a man that had the courage to speak out against the vile crime of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, because now maybe people will delve deeper into the sinister, abject filth of this company, and STOP GIVING THEM MONEY.



How is it that your mother-in-law was in a position to where she could do this to your children.  Those images are etched in their mind.  The Catholic Church frowns upon live-ins with the married couple apart from necessity.  Reason being is precisely what you mention.  The usurpation of authority.  Then the division between husband and wife over the issue.  

There is virtually no one you can visit without the occasion of sin being there.  My wife and I have a solution to this problem.  We do not visit anyone.  

In gatherings even if their is not excessive drinking.  And no cussing, and using the Lord's Name in Vain which the children will pick up right away, there will be bad influences, music, dressing conversation, gossip.  The children are in your hands to guide safely to heaven.  Woe to them that scandalize these little ones.  Your mother-in-law needs to be made aware of that and should be avoided if possible.  She should never be alone with the children.  And if she does things you do not like when you are around have her leave or leave with your children.  Don't let your children learn evil from anyone no matter who they are.
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: Tiffany on December 20, 2013, 11:12:48 AM
I don't watch TV but how sad is it that the truth is coming from "Hollywood"and not clergy! I hear NO other clergy calling out sodomy as a perversion or proper teaching about it.
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: Tiffany on December 20, 2013, 11:18:24 AM
Quote from: Lover of Truth
Quote from: parentsfortruth
Quote from: Thorn
I'm already boycotting Disney from way back.  


This is what I've been doing since their so-called "children's movies" had embed images put in them. All the way back that I knew of at that time, in 1989. I was 13. My mother was awake and hungry for the truth at that time. It was from the movie "The Little Mermaid" that the boycott began for my immediate family.

Do I even need to mention Miramax Film's movie, "Priest?"

Did you know that Disney picked a producer for a children's movie that was a convicted pedophile, and would pay him to produce a movie geared for children, of all people, rather than some wholesome person?

Anyone remember when Michael Eisner (steaming bowl of atheistic Jєω) was in charge of Disney?

Have people heard of "gαy Day" over at Disneyland?

A constant barrage of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ flag waving has come from Disney for many, many years. I've had so much pressure over the years, especially at family gatherings on my husband's side of the family (who are all protestants, by the way) trying to get me to have my children attend Disney movies in the theater during Thanksgiving and Christmas. Even my traditional Catholic mother in law was showing them Disney movies behind my back at her home, despite my insistence that she not do so.

I can't tell you how many pieces of clothing made it into my garbage can because they contained an image of a Disney character on them, no matter how "nice" such a piece was.

I've been an opponent of Disney for a very long time. I'm glad they did something to a man that had the courage to speak out against the vile crime of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, because now maybe people will delve deeper into the sinister, abject filth of this company, and STOP GIVING THEM MONEY.



How is it that your mother-in-law was in a position to where she could do this to your children.  Those images are etched in their mind.  The Catholic Church frowns upon live-ins with the married couple apart from necessity.  Reason being is precisely what you mention.  The usurpation of authority.  Then the division between husband and wife over the issue.  

There is virtually no one you can visit without the occasion of sin being there.  My wife and I have a solution to this problem.  We do not visit anyone.  

In gatherings even if their is not excessive drinking.  And no cussing, and using the Lord's Name in Vain which the children will pick up right away, there will be bad influences, music, dressing conversation, gossip.  The children are in your hands to guide safely to heaven.  Woe to them that scandalize these little ones.  Your mother-in-law needs to be made aware of that and should be avoided if possible.  She should never be alone with the children.  And if she does things you do not like when you are around have her leave or leave with your children.  Don't let your children learn evil from anyone no matter who they are.


Maybe she was sick or she had a hospitalized child that needed her there 24/7? Be grateful you have health or a spouse and do not to need to depend on others for child care at times.  Children are safer with a Christian grandma who doesn't understand the harm with Cinderella than some other alternatives. I agree children should not be exposed to Disney but it's far reaching to think they are just there for a social visit.
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: Lover of Truth on December 20, 2013, 11:31:04 AM
Quote from: Tiffany
Quote from: Lover of Truth
Quote from: parentsfortruth
Quote from: Thorn
I'm already boycotting Disney from way back.  


This is what I've been doing since their so-called "children's movies" had embed images put in them. All the way back that I knew of at that time, in 1989. I was 13. My mother was awake and hungry for the truth at that time. It was from the movie "The Little Mermaid" that the boycott began for my immediate family.

Do I even need to mention Miramax Film's movie, "Priest?"

Did you know that Disney picked a producer for a children's movie that was a convicted pedophile, and would pay him to produce a movie geared for children, of all people, rather than some wholesome person?

Anyone remember when Michael Eisner (steaming bowl of atheistic Jєω) was in charge of Disney?

Have people heard of "gαy Day" over at Disneyland?

A constant barrage of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ flag waving has come from Disney for many, many years. I've had so much pressure over the years, especially at family gatherings on my husband's side of the family (who are all protestants, by the way) trying to get me to have my children attend Disney movies in the theater during Thanksgiving and Christmas. Even my traditional Catholic mother in law was showing them Disney movies behind my back at her home, despite my insistence that she not do so.

I can't tell you how many pieces of clothing made it into my garbage can because they contained an image of a Disney character on them, no matter how "nice" such a piece was.

I've been an opponent of Disney for a very long time. I'm glad they did something to a man that had the courage to speak out against the vile crime of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, because now maybe people will delve deeper into the sinister, abject filth of this company, and STOP GIVING THEM MONEY.



How is it that your mother-in-law was in a position to where she could do this to your children.  Those images are etched in their mind.  The Catholic Church frowns upon live-ins with the married couple apart from necessity.  Reason being is precisely what you mention.  The usurpation of authority.  Then the division between husband and wife over the issue.  

There is virtually no one you can visit without the occasion of sin being there.  My wife and I have a solution to this problem.  We do not visit anyone.  

In gatherings even if their is not excessive drinking.  And no cussing, and using the Lord's Name in Vain which the children will pick up right away, there will be bad influences, music, dressing conversation, gossip.  The children are in your hands to guide safely to heaven.  Woe to them that scandalize these little ones.  Your mother-in-law needs to be made aware of that and should be avoided if possible.  She should never be alone with the children.  And if she does things you do not like when you are around have her leave or leave with your children.  Don't let your children learn evil from anyone no matter who they are.


Maybe she was sick or she had a hospitalized child that needed her there 24/7? Be grateful you have health or a spouse and do not to need to depend on others for child care at times.  Children are safer with a Christian grandma who doesn't understand the harm with Cinderella than some other alternatives. I agree children should not be exposed to Disney but it's far reaching to think they are just there for a social visit.


Of course, if it is unavoidable you go with the best alternative.  But what I say stands if it is not unavoidable.  Many traditional Catholics compromise with the world.  Many uninstructed good-willed Catholics compromise with the world without even realizing it.   It is important to have the salvation of your children at the forefront of your every thought word and action.  The repercussions are infinite.
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: Graham on December 20, 2013, 11:59:16 AM
This duck hunt guy teaches better than the pope.
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: Lover of Truth on December 20, 2013, 12:16:53 PM
Quote from: Graham
This duck hunt guy teaches better than the pope.


And as you know that is not even a joke.  Comedians could make good money off this "it's funny because its true situation".  

 
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: Tiffany on December 20, 2013, 12:27:24 PM
Quote from: Lover of Truth
Quote from: Tiffany
Quote from: Lover of Truth
Quote from: parentsfortruth
Quote from: Thorn
I'm already boycotting Disney from way back.  


This is what I've been doing since their so-called "children's movies" had embed images put in them. All the way back that I knew of at that time, in 1989. I was 13. My mother was awake and hungry for the truth at that time. It was from the movie "The Little Mermaid" that the boycott began for my immediate family.

Do I even need to mention Miramax Film's movie, "Priest?"

Did you know that Disney picked a producer for a children's movie that was a convicted pedophile, and would pay him to produce a movie geared for children, of all people, rather than some wholesome person?

Anyone remember when Michael Eisner (steaming bowl of atheistic Jєω) was in charge of Disney?

Have people heard of "gαy Day" over at Disneyland?

A constant barrage of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ flag waving has come from Disney for many, many years. I've had so much pressure over the years, especially at family gatherings on my husband's side of the family (who are all protestants, by the way) trying to get me to have my children attend Disney movies in the theater during Thanksgiving and Christmas. Even my traditional Catholic mother in law was showing them Disney movies behind my back at her home, despite my insistence that she not do so.

I can't tell you how many pieces of clothing made it into my garbage can because they contained an image of a Disney character on them, no matter how "nice" such a piece was.

I've been an opponent of Disney for a very long time. I'm glad they did something to a man that had the courage to speak out against the vile crime of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, because now maybe people will delve deeper into the sinister, abject filth of this company, and STOP GIVING THEM MONEY.



How is it that your mother-in-law was in a position to where she could do this to your children.  Those images are etched in their mind.  The Catholic Church frowns upon live-ins with the married couple apart from necessity.  Reason being is precisely what you mention.  The usurpation of authority.  Then the division between husband and wife over the issue.  

There is virtually no one you can visit without the occasion of sin being there.  My wife and I have a solution to this problem.  We do not visit anyone.  

In gatherings even if their is not excessive drinking.  And no cussing, and using the Lord's Name in Vain which the children will pick up right away, there will be bad influences, music, dressing conversation, gossip.  The children are in your hands to guide safely to heaven.  Woe to them that scandalize these little ones.  Your mother-in-law needs to be made aware of that and should be avoided if possible.  She should never be alone with the children.  And if she does things you do not like when you are around have her leave or leave with your children.  Don't let your children learn evil from anyone no matter who they are.


Maybe she was sick or she had a hospitalized child that needed her there 24/7? Be grateful you have health or a spouse and do not to need to depend on others for child care at times.  Children are safer with a Christian grandma who doesn't understand the harm with Cinderella than some other alternatives. I agree children should not be exposed to Disney but it's far reaching to think they are just there for a social visit.


Of course, if it is unavoidable you go with the best alternative.  But what I say stands if it is not unavoidable.  Many traditional Catholics compromise with the world.  Many uninstructed good-willed Catholics compromise with the world without even realizing it.   It is important to have the salvation of your children at the forefront of your every thought word and action.  The repercussions are infinite.


True but it's making big jumps coming from PFT post that the children were at grandmas.
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: MaterDominici on December 20, 2013, 12:36:40 PM
I saw a clip where the main players -- Phil, Kay, their son (Willy?) -- were discussing religion and the Duck Dynasty show. While Phil clearly wasn't crazy about the idea, their approach was that they would refrain from certain phrases / remarks (which A&E edited out anyhow) in favor of keeping their show on the air. They saw the show as an entry point and said if viewers were interested in hearing more about their faith, they'd go online or buy one of their books, etc to find out more.

So, they willingly allowed phrases like "in God's name..." to be edited out of the show, but considered it a strategy of sorts to keep their access to such a large audience.

I wonder if Phil decided that they were popular enough now that he could just tell it like it is and let the chips fall where they may. I'm sure there's someone out there who will keep their show on the air at this point considering how hugely popular it is.
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: parentsfortruth on December 20, 2013, 01:28:13 PM
Quote from: Lover of Truth
Quote from: parentsfortruth
Quote from: Thorn
I'm already boycotting Disney from way back.  


This is what I've been doing since their so-called "children's movies" had embed images put in them. All the way back that I knew of at that time, in 1989. I was 13. My mother was awake and hungry for the truth at that time. It was from the movie "The Little Mermaid" that the boycott began for my immediate family.

Do I even need to mention Miramax Film's movie, "Priest?"

Did you know that Disney picked a producer for a children's movie that was a convicted pedophile, and would pay him to produce a movie geared for children, of all people, rather than some wholesome person?

Anyone remember when Michael Eisner (steaming bowl of atheistic Jєω) was in charge of Disney?

Have people heard of "gαy Day" over at Disneyland?

A constant barrage of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ flag waving has come from Disney for many, many years. I've had so much pressure over the years, especially at family gatherings on my husband's side of the family (who are all protestants, by the way) trying to get me to have my children attend Disney movies in the theater during Thanksgiving and Christmas. Even my traditional Catholic mother in law was showing them Disney movies behind my back at her home, despite my insistence that she not do so.

I can't tell you how many pieces of clothing made it into my garbage can because they contained an image of a Disney character on them, no matter how "nice" such a piece was.

I've been an opponent of Disney for a very long time. I'm glad they did something to a man that had the courage to speak out against the vile crime of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, because now maybe people will delve deeper into the sinister, abject filth of this company, and STOP GIVING THEM MONEY.



How is it that your mother-in-law was in a position to where she could do this to your children.  Those images are etched in their mind.  The Catholic Church frowns upon live-ins with the married couple apart from necessity.  Reason being is precisely what you mention.  The usurpation of authority.  Then the division between husband and wife over the issue.  

There is virtually no one you can visit without the occasion of sin being there.  My wife and I have a solution to this problem.  We do not visit anyone.  

In gatherings even if their is not excessive drinking.  And no cussing, and using the Lord's Name in Vain which the children will pick up right away, there will be bad influences, music, dressing conversation, gossip.  The children are in your hands to guide safely to heaven.  Woe to them that scandalize these little ones.  Your mother-in-law needs to be made aware of that and should be avoided if possible.  She should never be alone with the children.  And if she does things you do not like when you are around have her leave or leave with your children.  Don't let your children learn evil from anyone no matter who they are.


The girls didn't tell me until years later because they were told not to. I actually just recently found out about this, and they weren't living there, and we were not living with her. She would have them over for various reasons to visit grandma's house.

They had told me that they watched this or that movie over there, and one time they had told me it was a Disney movie, and I had it out with her. I had a lengthy conversation about it with her, and how awful it was, and I thought it sunk in at that time. She said she wouldn't show them that stuff anymore, and I thought that was the end of it, but evidently it wasn't.

It's a long story about my mother in law, but the general jist of this revolves around one thing: mental illness that I wasn't aware of right away. After becoming aware of it, the girls didn't go over there very much, except for rosary club meetings or to help with some necessity.

I want to also stress that my mother in law went to daily Mass with them when it was available during the times they had to be over there, and that I mentioned that she's a traditional Catholic, so at first I didn't think I had much to worry about with them going over there aside from the quirkiness of an aged grandmother.
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: Ambrose on December 20, 2013, 02:01:22 PM
PFT,

I don't think you need to explain yourself to your critics regarding your home life.  From your posts, it is obvious to me that you are a good Catholic mother, who loves your children, and you are reasonably acting to shield them from dangers to their Faith.

Catholic parenting is very complex in today's world.  There are black and white issues, but many others that are gray areas that you have to use your best judgment.  You clearly used good judgment and acted reasonably.  
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: icterus on December 20, 2013, 03:47:54 PM
 I recently got a hunting dog and will find myself in need of some duck calls.  So, now, when I need some, I will buy them from this family.  I will feel good about it.  

Quote
This duck hunt guy teaches better than the pope.


And the duck guy doesn't need to be 'interpreted'.  
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: MyrnaM on December 20, 2013, 06:30:47 PM
Liberals definition of tolerance:


Be kind to one another even if you disagree;  allowing the conservatives to be seen  but not heard.  If they dare voice their opinion, quickly initiate the exception to the rule of kindness.  
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on December 20, 2013, 07:23:26 PM
Quote from: Tiffany
I don't watch TV but how sad is it that the truth is coming from "Hollywood"and not clergy! I hear NO other clergy calling out sodomy as a perversion or proper teaching about it.


Isn't that the truth
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on December 20, 2013, 07:25:53 PM
Quote from: Graham
This duck hunt guy teaches better than the pope.


Lol
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on December 20, 2013, 07:30:33 PM
Don't get too excited usually so called Christians also hate Catholics.  
I forget what I was looking up but I ended up on Protestant site and they were ripping apart the Catholic Church.   "Cat licks"    As we are called by Baptist.
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: StCeciliasGirl on December 20, 2013, 08:03:01 PM
LoT's so exactly right, but so are Tiff and Parents: you watch your children like the gift they are from God, and people dedicated to the Church, but you have sick days. I was very fortunate with good health, and we just simply did as LoT suggests — you go everywhere with your children, you are there, etc. Only in childbirth did I give up custody (for a few hours) to my parents, who are very good. I "overdid" it, but I was very much more paranoid that I thought I'd be. And what's "okay" with many trad families aren't with others. We've had people over who believe the display of alcohol is evil (we have a cabinet; not dismantling it to entertain). And I've visited others with

how best to say this...

"Velvet Jesus".  :pray: A large image of Our Lord without wounds on a black velvet background, and I usually love seeing as much of Our Lord and Lady and the Holy Family and the Saints as possible, but that, like the alcohol for others, is just something that rubs me the wrong way, I don't know why. (I'd never voice this in real life. Very nice holy people; it's not a "banned" image, that I know of. It's just not for me or mine.

We visit family and have friends visit us, but we all recognize we have various foibles or idiosyncrasies, and try to respect that. Ours is, pretty much, no TV. A movie ....if we've seen it, but even then, I'd prefer the kids to play outside or in a craft area than be in front of the TV. It's my idiosyncrasy. (It's fine if others do it!)

And grandparents.. such a tough issue if they're older. Yes, we're still responsible. 100% But we have to respect the in-laws (BIG OUCH for me at times; could be a big ouch for my husband, as well). It's all far easier said than done. It's a very fine line we have to walk. My children had never heard of Coke or Pepsi or (no kidding) candy bars until a particularly ...uh, wild aunt (a sister of mine) brought up the goodies one year. We allowed, within reason, things we wouldn't normally allow. Their aunt was horrified that we had only one TV, and sent them TVs.  :facepalm: (Don't ask.) We donated them to a local nursing home. Do everything in love and charity. It's very hard. (We had a will made where various parish members would get custody of our children in the event of our untimely demises. I LOVE my family. My parish members are closer, however, to our ways of parenting, and applaud such parenting, than some of my family members. That's where the Godparents come from, too.)
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: StCeciliasGirl on December 20, 2013, 08:30:34 PM
Quote from: MaterDominici
I saw a clip where the main players -- Phil, Kay, their son (Willy?) -- were discussing religion and the Duck Dynasty show. While Phil clearly wasn't crazy about the idea, their approach was that they would refrain from certain phrases / remarks (which A&E edited out anyhow) in favor of keeping their show on the air. They saw the show as an entry point and said if viewers were interested in hearing more about their faith, they'd go online or buy one of their books, etc to find out more.

So, they willingly allowed phrases like "in God's name..." to be edited out of the show, but considered it a strategy of sorts to keep their access to such a large audience.

I wonder if Phil decided that they were popular enough now that he could just tell it like it is and let the chips fall where they may. I'm sure there's someone out there who will keep their show on the air at this point considering how hugely popular it is.


And thank you, Mater: this is EXACTLY what I was looking for. I fear once someone is involved in 'the industry' (already working with A&E and Disney), maybe they've already sold out.

I have no idea what to think; I don't see supporting the show. I got burned with that on EWTN. ...though I don't wish ill on the former EWTN people, like Mother Angelica! I was happy to support them, and they gave new life to homebound elderly and even fallen away Catholics ...until the bad guys won and Mother A. had that last stroke. I believe she's still alive, oh but Penny Lord is in need of prayer, I hear  :pray:

I'm extraordinarily careful now what plays on our TV. Sporting events, paused commercials; um, movies. I think Discovery or History for husband. Various things, but we're careful, and the kids don't watch (unless it's something special and then, they're with us.)

As VCR Viva says (sorry your abbreviated name sounds like an appliance!! LOL!), I fear these Duck Dynasty sorts aren't among those who would, um, well "have our backs". I don't understand a religion that makes it acceptable for them to let Disney EDIT OUT your "Deo Gratias!" And yes, they're better than current Rome leaders !!! but that still doesn't mean they'd even reach the holiness of the Borgias Popes.

I hate division amongst those who call on the name of the Lord, really I do, and it's tempting to openly support the Duck Dynasty characters (people?) just because an enemy of my enemy or whatever, but division must exist. It's Scriptural.

I suppose constitutionally, "Phil" may have a leg to stand on, but really, the family has been with Disney/A&E a long time (years?!), and I have this feeling that if push came to shove, they'd stand with Disney as Catholic heads rolled. :/

Thank you for the details. When a story gets this much airtime, it's hard discovering the truth of something before it became the big story. :-)
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: Traditional Guy 20 on December 20, 2013, 09:12:38 PM
As long as the populace continues to support and watch Hollywood filth, then no one can truly criticize Hollywood since everyone supports them.

My grandparents made a big deal about this before I reminded them that they too watch Hollywood filth and also reminding them that Hollywood started out bad by quoting this Charles Lindbergh quote, "Jєωs in Hollywood and the press are pushing America into war." (World War II)
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: poche on December 21, 2013, 02:40:27 AM
Quote from: Tiffany
I don't watch TV but how sad is it that the truth is coming from "Hollywood"and not clergy! I hear NO other clergy calling out sodomy as a perversion or proper teaching about it.

I know of a number of priests who say the Novus Ordo mass and they very publicly condemn ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ acts as sinful.
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: poche on December 21, 2013, 03:09:27 AM
The recent suspension of “Duck Dynasty” patriarch Phil Robertson over comments made on ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ behavior has prompted a storm of controversy and major boycott threats.  

Robertson and his family are the focal point for the A&E show “Duck Dynasty,” which follows the Louisiana clan’s home, business and recreational life as successful duck-call manufacturers.

The show attracts a weekly viewership of around 14 million people, according to the Nielsen Company’s television ratings reports, and has broken records for the most-watched nonfiction cable telecast in history. In addition, the family has been involved in a number of books, speaking events and merchandise.

The family has also gained attention for its outspoken defense of Christian beliefs, including support of pro-life positions and for marriage.

In an interview with GQ magazine for its January edition – released online Dec. 18 – Robertson commented on his beliefs about ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ behavior.

“Everything is blurred on what’s right and what’s wrong,” Robertson said of the acceptance of sin in modern culture. “Sin becomes fine.”

“Start with ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ behavior and just morph out from there,” he said when asked what he believed to be sinful. “Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men.”

He also commented that sin in general is “not logical,” saying that it did not make sense to him why men would find same-sex interactions as “more desirable” than heterosɛҳuąƖ sex.

Despite believing this behavior to be sinful, he said that he did not judge people, explaining, “We just love ‘em, give ‘em the good news about Jesus – whether they’re ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs, drunks, terrorists. We let God sort ‘em out later.”

In response to his statements, A&E announced that it had “placed Phil under hiatus from filming indefinitely.”

“We are extremely disappointed to have read Phil Robertson’s comments in GQ,” the network said, adding that Robertson’s views do not reflect those of Duck Dynasty or of A&E Networks, which have “always been strong supporters and champions of the LGBT community.”

The network has since received an outpouring of complaints. In less than 24 hours, a Facebook page entitled “Boycott A&E Until Phil Robertson Is Put Back On Duck Dynasty” garnered more than 930,000 likes, surpassing A&E’s Facebook page by more than 350,000.

In addition, more than 73,000 people signed an online petition labeled #IStandWithPhil.

Robertson later released a statement clarifying that his mission is “to go forth and tell people about why I follow Christ and also what the Bible teaches,” adding that “part of that teaching is that women and men are meant to be together.”

“However, I would never treat anyone with disrespect just because they are different from me,” he stressed. “We are all created by the Almighty and like Him, I love all of humanity. We would all be better off if we loved God and loved each other.”

gαy advocacy group GLAAD denounced Robertson’s remarks as “some of the vilest and most extreme statements uttered against LGBT people in a mainstream publication.” The organization said his comments were hateful and discriminatory and applauded his indefinite suspension.

Others, however, came to the defense of the Robertsons. Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal called them “great citizens of the State of Louisiana” in a Dec. 19 statement. He criticized the “politically correct crowd” for stigmatizing viewpoints “they disagree with.”

“It is a messed-up situation when Miley Cyrus gets a laugh, and Phil Robertson gets suspended,” Jindal continued, in a reference to pop singer Cyrus’ highly publicized sɛҳuąƖ gestures during performances.

Doug Napier, senior legal vice president for Alliance Defending Freedom, argued in a Dec. 19 statement that “one-sided censorship of the cultural and political elites” has damaged the “free marketplace of ideas” and “open discussion about important cultural issues.”

National Organization for Marriage president Brian Brown called Robertson’s statements a “traditional Christian view of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity – decry the sin but love the sinner.”

“It’s what every major Christian leader including Jesus Christ himself has taught us,” Brown said.

He criticized A&E’s deference to gαy advocacy organizations, saying that doing so is giving in to intolerance.

These groups, he said, “will brook no objection, tolerate no dissent and accept no disagreement when it comes to their orthodoxy.”

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/duck-dynasty-suspension-over-gαy-comments-sparks-criticism/
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: poche on December 21, 2013, 03:11:41 AM
 Camille Paglia, a feminist, lesbian professor, harshly criticized the suspension of Phil Robertson for his statements supporting the traditional Christian view of sɛҳuąƖity, saying such condemnation rejects the free speech.

“If people are basing their views against gαys on the Bible, again they have a right of religious freedom there,” Paglia said in a Dec. 19 radio interview on the Laura Ingraham Show.

Paglia is a professor at the University of the Arts in Philadelphia, and has described herself in the past as a “dissident feminist” as well as lesbian.

She spoke out against the treatment of the treatment of Robertson, who was placed on “indefinite hiatus” from Duck Dynasty, a reality show about his family, by A&E for his statements calling ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ behavior sinful and illogical in an interview with GQ Magazine for its January edition, released online Dec. 18.

Robertson’s comments lead to vocal opposition from many LGBT organizations, including GLAAD, which called the statements “some of the vilest and most extreme statements uttered against LGBT people in a mainstream publication.”

Paglia asserted that “people have the right to free thought and free speech in a democratic country” to express themselves in interviews, adding that she thinks “that this intolerance by gαy activists toward the full spectrum of human beliefs is a sign of immaturity, juvenility.”

“In a democratic country, people have the right to be homophobic as well as they have the right to support ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity — as I one hundred percent do,” Paglia stated.

She said the call for censorship of Robertson by some groups is a demonstration of the “punitive PC, utterly fascist, utterly Stalinist” trends within left-leaning organizations “over the last several decades,” saying “the whole legacy of free speech” had been “lost” by these groups.

People should foster respect for opposing viewpoints, Paglia commented.

“I’m an atheist, but I respect religion.”

Harsh criticism and condemnation of some points of view “is not the mark of a true intellectual life,” Paglia went on.

“This is why there is no cultural life now in the U.S.,” she said, adding that the major media and elites “are not being educated in any way to give respect to opposing view points.”

“There is a dialogue going on human civilization, for heaven sakes. It’s not just this monologue coming from fanatics who have displaced the religious beliefs of their parents into a political movement.”

“And that is what happened to feminism, and that is what happened to gαy activism, a fanaticism.”

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/lesbian-feminist-suspending-duck-dynasty-star-is-fascist/
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: parentsfortruth on December 21, 2013, 04:17:01 AM
CNA giving a platform to a lesbian, regardless if what she says is good or not.

Disgusting, and why I don't bother reading their drivel.
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: poche on December 21, 2013, 04:41:23 AM
Quote from: parentsfortruth
CNA giving a platform to a lesbian, regardless if what she says is good or not.

Disgusting, and why I don't bother reading their drivel.

Do you mean her lifestyle is disgusting or the fact that she thinks that Dynasty Duck people have been treated unfairly?
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: parentsfortruth on December 21, 2013, 10:28:59 AM
Quote from: poche
Quote from: parentsfortruth
CNA giving a platform to a lesbian, regardless if what she says is good or not.

Disgusting, and why I don't bother reading their drivel.

Do you mean her lifestyle is disgusting or the fact that she thinks that Dynasty Duck people have been treated unfairly?


They should NOT be giving a platform to a practicing lesbian, NO MATTER WHAT SHE SAYS!

That better?
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: ClarkSmith on December 21, 2013, 06:06:59 PM
Duck Dynasty  had the  Zac Brown Band on their TV show. The Duck boys didn't seem all that upset that the Zac Brown Band blasphemed the Virgin Mary on their album cover art.
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: Charlemagne on December 21, 2013, 06:23:06 PM
Quote from: poche
Quote from: parentsfortruth
CNA giving a platform to a lesbian, regardless if what she says is good or not.

Disgusting, and why I don't bother reading their drivel.

Do you mean her lifestyle is disgusting or the fact that she thinks that Dynasty Duck people have been treated unfairly?


You're either the most dense poster on this forum or just someone who enjoys provoking people. The "poor poche means well" BS doesn't fool me for a moment.
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: StCeciliasGirl on December 21, 2013, 08:16:24 PM
I started this; let me add what I found before we continue discussing this farce of a show. I am sorry for having brought it up. Though two things: thanks for the excellent general comments about Catholic persecution, which is what I had thought this was about, and Poche, gotta say that Camille Paglia is one sick broad who you should NEVER read or pay attention to (if you already do, this is a definite dust-and-ashes moment for you; I say that for your own good; she's a liar), and ClarkSmith, thanks for the comment about DD using Zac Brown Band in their FAKE REALITY SHOW.

It is ALL fake. There was an article on Daily Kos today (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/20/1264354/-Duck-Dynasty-is-a-Fake-Yuppies-in-Red-Neck-Drag-Con-Job) that makes liars of the DD "actors" and calls into question people they represent, and I am thoroughly ASHAMED for not researching this a LOT MORE before posting. I do despise that Catholics are being persecuted for saying the truth, which is that sodomy will earn you HELL. But these Duck Dynasty people are complete frauds. I've added the pictures below, and they alone (to me) tell the story. (Warning about the link: DK is NOT a Catholic-friendly zone).

:sad:

Duck Dynasty men before the show started:

"The brothers"
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/62464/large/23-robertson-brothers-without-beards-duck-dynasty-then-and-now-e1364400084151.jpg?1387594936)

"Willie and Korie"
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/62458/large/9-willie-and-korie-robertson-beach-duck-dynasty-then-and-now.jpg?1387594928)

"Jep and Jessica"
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/62459/large/15-jep-and-jessica-robertson-with-kids-on-the-beach-duck-dynasty-then-and-now-e1364400346204.jpg?1387594930)

"Jase and Missy"
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/62463/large/20-jase-and-missy-robertson-with-kids-on-the-beach-duck-dynasty-then-and-now.jpg?1387594937)

And after:

"Willie and Korie"
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/62461/large/8-willie-and-korie-robertson-today-duck-dynasty-then-and-now.jpg?1387594930)

"Jep and Jessica"
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/62462/large/14-jep-and-jessica-robertson-duck-dynasty-then-and-now.jpg?1387594934)

"Jase and Missy"
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/62460/large/19-jase-and-missy-robertson.jpg?1387594931)

I am glad I do not watch Disney, A&E, or Hollywood junk; I am sorry I brought this topic up because of the vitriol and hatred that these frauds will have brought our way before this is all said and done. If I had horses and rope... I am sorry for making this post. I believe the entire "stink", now, is Hollywood's way of testing the waters to see "how far" they've come in brainwashing the American public. (Answer: not far enough, so they'll lay it on thicker with the "two dads" and other LIES OF SATAN.) I played RIGHT into Hollywood's hand, and for that, I am most grievously sorry.

Oh, and I'm GLAD I never watched this tripe.

SCG
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: Tiffany on December 22, 2013, 08:01:56 AM
I don't see how those family pics make it a fraud?  Those white t-shirts on the beach pictures are very popular in that area. It doesn't mean that is what they normally wear. They have beards now but still the same pretty wives. The few pics taken of me is nothing like what I wear day to day.
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: crossbro on December 22, 2013, 09:19:18 AM

You thought it was for real ?

All reality TV is staged. Even the Survivor series used stunt doubles.
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: StCeciliasGirl on December 22, 2013, 11:32:23 AM
Tiffany: Because it's all a publicity stunt using Holy Scriptures as the "starring member".

I don't get a pass. I refused to watch that Roma-whoever's "Bible" series; I'm usually so careful. I can't blame naivete because I know how it works (as crossbro points out). I watched Survivor a long time ago, and realized it was both addicting, and incredibly fake: networks use cheap non-actors and settings to replace scripted shows, and reward the worst behaved "people" (characters), all to grow their audience and to generate exactly what I've done here: publicity. I also saw long ago that these shows were generating very bad behavior in their real life audience. "Reality TV" and its participants (I fear, scary enough, even indirect ones like me) are really little different than the crowds calling for "Barabbas" 2,000 years ago: people wanted to be entertained. (Blessing to be seen here: more proof against any kind of human "renaissance" outside of Catholicism!). But this thread, on a Catholic site  :facepalm: (I am so sorry!), and any talk about how "mean" A&E is, is all Disney wants. They want attention outside of their usual audience, and I bought into this one hook, line, and sinker.

I noticed yesterday there were very few people who were against the Ducks; even the Sodomites themselves supported the Duck people. And Disney's name has stayed clean through all of this. I started combing the likes of atheist publications yesterday for some kind of hint that there was, indeed, a "controversy" to be had; there IS NONE. It's all manufactured.

That is my wrong: I inadvertently helped Disney collect money USING Holy Scripture as a character.  :facepalm: I tested the Lord. That's breaking-a-Commandment territory.

If there's a blessing to be had, it's me seeing how I am NOT impervious to Satan. I can't turn off the TV (well, football is coming on so my husband wouldn't be happy, lol), or close my laptop and blame the internet (if anything, researching it digitally helped.) That "everyone was talking about it" will not fly on Judgment Day.

We (the world) can't say were weren't warned that the devil is a wily snake.  :facepalm: Oh... oh my. Just realized there were probably SERMONS about this throughout the world today. They will probably have a RALLY. (Not enough facepalms available.)

Really, we can't trust ANYONE on TV. I know the intent is "good", but that I or any Catholic might expect justice or fairness from an ungodly civil system... and that I posted about it?

That I'm feeling Lent-level sorrow right before Christmas?! <--- I've got to correct that, huge, and accept I'm still easily fooled, and hold my head up and celebrate the birth of Our Lord. That much, I can do. (And I will resist burning Disney/DD merchandise, though the thought is DEFINITELY in my mind.) Okay, I'm going to add a few more ornaments to my tree and wrap a gift and celebrate this day.
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on December 24, 2013, 12:02:55 AM
Quote from: ClarkSmith
Duck Dynasty  had the  Zac Brown Band on their TV show. The Duck boys didn't seem all that upset that the Zac Brown Band blasphemed the Virgin Mary on their album cover art.


Many Protestants down South especially the Baptists hate Catholics.    Cross burning kkk.  
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on December 24, 2013, 01:54:31 AM
Why can't any of these bishops and even the Pope defend God?  


The sad truth is many so called Catholic clergy in Rome and all over are ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs and pedergasts.  

They remained silent to divorce and sɛҳuąƖ and abuse etc.  in fact many clergy are gαy rights activists.  

Who are they to judge???  

Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: Tiffany on December 24, 2013, 02:07:22 AM
Those pics on the sand with the white shirts are very common for that area.  I don't know that it's 100% manufactured.
 I know nice ladies from the South who believe interracial marriage is wrong, it's not something they whisper about, they would be painted as a racist. People are generally more conservative compared to other areas. They are pro-public school and into big local government, seems like often there is no economy other than gov and hospitals or military. There is still a stronger Protestant influence than in the Northeast giving the people more traditional values when you compare.
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: TKGS on December 24, 2013, 06:12:13 AM
I've never seen Duck Dynasty and I don't intend to watch it now.  I have seen the "news and talk" shows that have covered the issue.  The only thing I am very tired of is listening to people who haven't a clue about the Christian religion harangue people about what the "true" Christian view of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is and listening to the supposed conservative commentators tell me how much the disagree with what the guy said.
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: Graham on December 31, 2013, 10:44:23 AM
Another "scandal": a couple years ago he said that men should look to marry bible-toting teenage girls who know how to cook.

http://realitytvmagazine.sheknows.com/2013/12/30/duck-dynasty-controversy-continues-with-discovery-of-problematic-phil-robertson-video/

Quote
Initially, Phil’s suggestions seem fairly innocuous, albeit a bit out of date. Advising male audience members on choosing the perfect wife, Phil says that prospective husbands should look for young women who carry Bibles with them at all times. Also, he believes in ladies finding their way to guys’ hearts through their stomachs. “Make sure that she can cook a meal, you need to eat some meals that she cooks.” And if the gal knows a thing or two about ducks, Phil views her as practically perfect in every way.

According to Phil, finding a wife with all of these qualities is not possible for guys setting their sites on women in their early 20s. He thinks that women of this age are more interested in picking pockets than picking ducks. Instead, he advises, “You got to marry these girls when they are about 15 or 16.” Phil does add that grooms-to-be should check with parents before marrying teenage girls, but that tidbit’s not enough to appease those who have taken offense to his promotion of teenage marriage.
Title: The Duck Dynasty saga where star fired
Post by: Traditional Guy 20 on January 17, 2014, 08:29:19 PM
You know it is funny that HollyLeft sees a problem with a man saying that he does not accept ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity and yet back in the 1950's they had no problem with the "Hollywood Ten," known communist spies and sympathizers during wartime.