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Re: The Charlie Kirk PSYOP
« Reply #150 on: Yesterday at 05:53:34 PM »
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  • https://youtu.be/WwjOLtpiJtM?si=mlu4uZtMBUAuf1Nn
    Catholic Family Podcast.
    This is exactly how they want us to fall in line with the ecuмenical right vs. Left agenda.
    I commented on this video but they were deleted.

    The guy in the video, Dan, actually said (ts 25:00) that when the history of our times is written the Catholic Faith will have been saved by American constitutional religious freedoms. Popes Pius IX and Leo XIII just rolled over in their graves.

    No, the Catholic Faith will not be saved because of a Freemasonic/Protestant constitutional liberties created with the intention to destroy Christendom and build a Novus Ordo Seculorum. The Catholic Faith will be SAVED ONLY by God's grace and any remaining Catholics who cooperate with God's grace, in the midst of persecution not liberty, that will save the Catholic Faith.

    At ts30:15, Dan says that Jeffersonian separation of church and state does not conflict with the Catholic Faith. Who is this guy? And why would the CMRI be promoting this garbage? It's one thing to accept, prudentially, the American political situation. It is quite another to fail to recognize how far from the Catholic political ideal the Freemasonic model is from the Catholic model.

    There is no doubt that Charlie "Church" is alive and well in Dan's mind. He doesn't seem to understand the damage to faith and morals that occurs with Catholics are forced to water-down their faith every day just to get along in the world. At least in Roman times, the enemy, paganism, was clear. It is the Freemasonic/Protestant reference to "God" that convinces Catholic simpletons that we are all "believers." Very dangerous to the true Catholic Faith as our history has shown.

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    Re: The Charlie Kirk PSYOP
    « Reply #151 on: Yesterday at 06:27:23 PM »
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  • Right- he is not dead
    Valhalla

    https://rumble.com/v6z5bz0-see-you-in-valhalla-kirks-cryptic-goodbyes-tell-us-he-is-alive-and-in-the-w.html?e9s=src_v1_cmd%2Csrc_v1_upp_f
    You're thinking too hard. He said that because he's an idiot. Kash Patel is only FBI Director because he's a hardcore Trump loyalist. He has massive conflict of interest issues, namely owning stock in a company with ties to the CCP. He is unqualified in every way.
    Christ is Risen! He is risen indeed


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    Re: The Charlie Kirk PSYOP
    « Reply #153 on: Yesterday at 06:38:25 PM »
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  • You're thinking too hard. He said that because he's an idiot. Kash Patel is only FBI Director because he's a hardcore Trump loyalist. He has massive conflict of interest issues, namely owning stock in a company with ties to the CCP. He is unqualified in every way.
    Cash isn't the only one using the term....https://x.com/i/status/1967690656996098160

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    Re: The Charlie Kirk PSYOP
    « Reply #154 on: Yesterday at 07:24:18 PM »
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  • Did anyone watch the video to the end?????
    He flippantly says, " what's less important is transubstantiation, I don't hold that view" !!!!!
    So it's a "view"  not THE article of faith!

    So he doesn't believe in the Pope and the whole Vatican thing, nor Mariology, nor transubstantiation.

    And minutes before he died he said, "We need the strong Mormon church back in this country.  I love how Mormons send missionaries around the world.  I love how polite you are.  Half my team is Mormon."
    Ironic it was a Mormon that killed him.

    The devil will tell you 99 truths to get you to believe one lie.  I don't think for one minute Charlie was anywhere near converting.

    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]



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    Re: The Charlie Kirk PSYOP
    « Reply #155 on: Yesterday at 07:48:37 PM »
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  • Around 1.5 months prior to his death Kirk denied at least 5 Dogmas of the Faith, which included making blasphemous and heretical attacks against Our Lady. 6 days prior to his death Kirk participated in a "TPUSA Faith" Evangelical event. 4 days prior to his death he participated in a Korean Evangelical event and allowed a female "minister" to "bless" and pray over him. None of this describes someone who is seriously considering converting to the True Faith. These are docuмented facts, we can view them and hear Kirk's own words and see his own actions. Save for a single picture of Kirk attending mass at a Novus Ordo church, all other "evidence" of Kirk's alleged "leaning towards converting" is hearsay.
    If you are going to make a point, please make it truthfully and accurately, and in context.  Charlie Kirk was simply stating that he had difficulty accepting certain Catholic beliefs including the Assumption and Immaculate conception. He did not word it as an attack  - that was not his intention - he was merely being honest about his own beliefs and how he thought these dogmas had no scriptural bases, hence his difficulty. He also said he was open to debate. Regarding being 'blessed' and prayed over by a evangelical minister, it is something he is used to and sees no harm in it. I've witnessed Catholics who subject themselves to the same. The fact he was saying the daily rosary with his wife - and I can tell you that I have Protestant relatives who would recoil in horror at such a 'Papist' devotion - and attending Sunday Mass is very telling. It shows his heart was open even if he did not have everything right. An honest person would say, "well, that sounds hopeful, great to hear that. He still seems to be attached to his Protestant beliefs, but just in case I'll pray for his soul." THAT, is a normal Catholic response. But no, you and your ilk are determined to have him damned. Even I'm damned according to some of you. You really are a bunch of stiff-necked Pharisees.

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    Re: The Charlie Kirk PSYOP
    « Reply #156 on: Yesterday at 08:30:27 PM »
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  • If you are going to make a point, please make it truthfully and accurately, and in context.  Charlie Kirk was simply stating that he had difficulty accepting certain Catholic beliefs including the Assumption and Immaculate conception. He did not word it as an attack  - that was not his intention - he was merely being honest about his own beliefs and how he thought these dogmas had no scriptural bases, hence his difficulty. He also said he was open to debate. Regarding being 'blessed' and prayed over by a evangelical minister, it is something he is used to and sees no harm in it. I've witnessed Catholics who subject themselves to the same. The fact he was saying the daily rosary with his wife - and I can tell you that I have Protestant relatives who would recoil in horror at such a 'Papist' devotion - and attending Sunday Mass is very telling. It shows his heart was open even if he did not have everything right. An honest person would say, "well, that sounds hopeful, great to hear that. He still seems to be attached to his Protestant beliefs, but just in case I'll pray for his soul." THAT, is a normal Catholic response. But no, you and your ilk are determined to have him damned. Even I'm damned according to some of you. You really are a bunch of stiff-necked Pharisees.
    What a load of mush. A heretic calling others pharisees for holding Catholic dogma. :fryingpan:

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    Re: The Charlie Kirk PSYOP
    « Reply #157 on: Yesterday at 08:30:57 PM »
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  • If you are going to make a point, please make it truthfully and accurately, and in context.  Charlie Kirk was simply stating that he had difficulty accepting certain Catholic beliefs including the Assumption and Immaculate conception. He did not word it as an attack  - that was not his intention - he was merely being honest about his own beliefs and how he thought these dogmas had no scriptural bases, hence his difficulty. He also said he was open to debate. Regarding being 'blessed' and prayed over by a evangelical minister, it is something he is used to and sees no harm in it. I've witnessed Catholics who subject themselves to the same. The fact he was saying the daily rosary with his wife - and I can tell you that I have Protestant relatives who would recoil in horror at such a 'Papist' devotion - and attending Sunday Mass is very telling. It shows his heart was open even if he did not have everything right. An honest person would say, "well, that sounds hopeful, great to hear that. He still seems to be attached to his Protestant beliefs, but just in case I'll pray for his soul." THAT, is a normal Catholic response. But no, you and your ilk are determined to have him damned. Even I'm damned according to some of you. You really are a bunch of stiff-necked Pharisees.
    Yes, Boru, denying the Immaculate Conception, perpetual virginity, and Assumption of Our Lady is an attack on her, the Church, the Faith, and God. Over 100k people watched that video of Kirk denying those Dogmas, how many of them went away from that video confirmed in their error? I don't give a shit how politely he couched his heresies, they were all the more subtle and dangerous given how he prefaced them by paying lip service to some of Our Lady's admirable traits. What person "close to conversion" would leave that video up on their YouTube channel? How "close to conversion" does someone need to be to realize the tremendous damage he has done by spreading his heretical and blasphemous views across the years to millions of people, and make a public apology and retraction of said errors? How "close to conversion" does someone need to be to reject a false blessing from a female minister? To know not to praise the Mormons and say we need a strong Mormon Church in the US?

    Evidence continues to come out..real, actual evidence..that shows that Kirk was in no ways a Catholic, or "near Catholic", in the months, weeks, and days leading up to his death. Meanwhile, you are forced to rely on the same couple bits of HEARSAY to support your ridiculous claims of there being "every possibility" of Kirk being saved..and even a martyr. This hearsay being how you justify defending and minimizing Kirk's heretical and blasphemous words and actions. Like I said, there is something seriously wrong with you

    And any "Catholics" you have witnessed receive blessings from non-Catholic ministers or whoever else were just as Catholic as Kirk, that should be a given to any honest, "trad" Catholic.

    My "ilk" and I understand the necessity of belonging to the Mystical Body of Christ in order to be saved. You and your ilk deny a thrice defined Dogma of the Faith, you deny that Kirk was given sufficient grace and time to actually become a member of the Church prior to his death. You and your ilk achieve nothing other than being in part responsible for the damnation of souls
    John 15:19  If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.


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    Re: The Charlie Kirk PSYOP
    « Reply #158 on: Yesterday at 08:39:56 PM »
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  • If you are going to make a point, please make it truthfully and accurately, and in context.  Charlie Kirk was simply stating that he had difficulty accepting certain Catholic beliefs including the Assumption and Immaculate conception. He did not word it as an attack  - that was not his intention - he was merely being honest about his own beliefs and how he thought these dogmas had no scriptural bases, hence his difficulty. He also said he was open to debate. Regarding being 'blessed' and prayed over by a evangelical minister, it is something he is used to and sees no harm in it. I've witnessed Catholics who subject themselves to the same. The fact he was saying the daily rosary with his wife - and I can tell you that I have Protestant relatives who would recoil in horror at such a 'Papist' devotion - and attending Sunday Mass is very telling. It shows his heart was open even if he did not have everything right. An honest person would say, "well, that sounds hopeful, great to hear that. He still seems to be attached to his Protestant beliefs, but just in case I'll pray for his soul." THAT, is a normal Catholic response. But no, you and your ilk are determined to have him damned. Even I'm damned according to some of you. You really are a bunch of stiff-necked Pharisees.

    Boru, you already agreed, in an earlier post, that by saying that Our Blessed mother was "a sinner just like the rest of us" Kirk blasphemed Our Lady. Now you have the nerve to defend him and claim his words were not "an attack."

    Why do you never defend Our Lady, the Eucharist and the Church against his blasphemies? Human respect?

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    Re: The Charlie Kirk PSYOP
    « Reply #159 on: Yesterday at 08:42:40 PM »
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  • Did anyone watch the video to the end?????
    He flippantly says, " what's less important is transubstantiation, I don't hold that view" !!!!!
    So it's a "view"  not THE article of faith!

    So he doesn't believe in the Pope and the whole Vatican thing, nor Mariology, nor transubstantiation.

    And minutes before he died he said, "We need the strong Mormon church back in this country.  I love how Mormons send missionaries around the world.  I love how polite you are.  Half my team is Mormon."
    Ironic it was a Mormon that killed him.

    The devil will tell you 99 truths to get you to believe one lie.  I don't think for one minute Charlie was anywhere near converting.

    I did watch to the end of the video and I believe you may have misunderstood his meaning. He said he had three theological problems with Catholicism: Infallibility of the Pope, Marinology, and "what's less important (of a problem) is transubstantiation. I don't hold that view." In other worlds, I don't hold that view but its less of a theological problem than the other two.

    Again, let us make clear the context. Charlie Kirk was engaging in a theological debate about Mormonism versus Christianity. Kirk said “First of all, I love Mormons,” quite aware that his audience in Utah, where the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is headquartered, has 2.2 million members. As for the the quote "We need the strong Mormon church back in this country.  I love how Mormons send missionaries around the world.  I love how polite you are.  Half my team is Mormon" this was qualified by “You’ve got to get your mojo back - No more of this L.G.B.T. stuff.”  That's what he meant by 'We need the strong Mormon church back in this country'.

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    Re: The Charlie Kirk PSYOP
    « Reply #160 on: Yesterday at 09:53:38 PM »
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  • Here is Saint Charlie, just in case you were wondering about his conversion.....
    not exactly a merciful guy

    https://x.com/i/status/1968270394286317921


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    Re: The Charlie Kirk PSYOP
    « Reply #161 on: Yesterday at 10:12:05 PM »
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  • I can't believe it.  The House of Representatives just voted Oct 14 a National Day of Remembrance for Charlie Kirk!
    Next they'll make his wife the next POTUS.... Actually that's just scarry.

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/118-house-democrats-fail-to-support-national-day-of-remembrance-for-charlie-kirk/?utm_source=daily-usa-2025-09-19&utm_medium=email
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]


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    Re: The Charlie Kirk PSYOP
    « Reply #162 on: Yesterday at 11:15:01 PM »
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  • I can't believe it.  The House of Representatives just voted Oct 14 a National Day of Remembrance for Charlie Kirk!
    Next they'll make his wife the next POTUS.... Actually that's just scarry.

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/118-house-democrats-fail-to-support-national-day-of-remembrance-for-charlie-kirk/?utm_source=daily-usa-2025-09-19&utm_medium=email

    You are witnessing actual chaos magick.
    George Floyd shares the same birthday.

    Charlie Kirk is the “George Floyd” of the Right.

    The Hegelian dialectic goes left, then right, and then the new left enters and the new right, with the new world next steps in the middle.

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    Re: The Charlie Kirk PSYOP
    « Reply #163 on: Yesterday at 11:19:20 PM »
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  • You are witnessing actual chaos magick.
    George Floyd shares the same birthday.

    Charlie Kirk is the “George Floyd” of the Right.

    The Hegelian dialectic goes left, then right, and then the new left enters and the new right, with the new world next steps in the middle.
    You're absolutely right.
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]


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    Re: The Charlie Kirk PSYOP
    « Reply #164 on: Yesterday at 11:26:41 PM »
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  • I did watch to the end of the video and I believe you may have misunderstood his meaning.
    I didn't misunderstand his meaning.  You only had to look at his body language.

    I've read through your many responses here and your are thinking/reasoning is way off.


    Think of this:
    At Fatima, Francisco was eight years old, baptized Catholic, brought up in a devout Catholic family, probably never committed a mortal sin and yet Our Lady said he'd have to pray MANY MORE rosaries to get to heaven. (I'm pretty sure he'd have made purgatory right then and there (for his little venial sins)).

    Now look at Charlie Kirk...you seem to think because he said a few rosaries, (you don't see him walking around with a rosary in his hand) watched some NO Masses (you don't know his reason for attending) and isn't afraid to mention God that that's enough for him to be saved and by the sounds of it bypass purgatory with no formal conversion, no denouncing past beliefs, no ceasing to praise false religions or anything else he carried over from his upbringing and experiences.

    You might want to go to a solid Catholic priest for more instruction.

    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]