1. The Catholic Church characterizes Kirk's comments as "blasphemy." Here is the excerpt from the Moral Theology giving the exact example of what he did:

https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/35354/pg35354-images.html
Do you submit to the Church's authority on this matter, Boru? Or do you think your opinions supersede settled Church moral theology?


2. You have been claiming that Kirk comments about Our Lady on this occasion were "objective evidence" that he was on the path to conversion. Do you still believe that? If so, what do you make of these words from him:
He called Our Lady a sinner. He says "biblical evidence" shows that. His comment is diabolical, no? Doesn't that sound like something Satan would say...with "respect," of course.

I could almost accept some reluctance to believe in the Immaculate Conception from a Prot, as there were some Catholics even before it was defined who were not sure about that.

BUT ... his assertion that Our Lady did not remain a virgin was incredibly vile and blasphemous, and I'm sick of all these "Catholics" praising Kirk, and of course denying that dogma that there's no salvation outside the Church as if some alleged trajectory or "path" to "conversion" somehow puts one inside the Church.

Aside from the fact that Kirk is not dead ... if in fact he had died, we do not pray for him, but instead we say that he was lost.  While someone could argue that it's possible that by some miracle he may have converted in his last moments ... it's forbidden even to say that, since the more people emphasize that it's "possible", the less they believe that barring such an extraordinary miracle it's NOT possible.

I made the analogy about other moral certainties.  I could go around declaring every priest I know to be "presumed valid" rather than simply saying that "he's valid", but the more I characterize it as "presumed valid", the more doubt I actually plant in people's minds.

When we have moral certainty about something, we simply state that thing as if it were fact.  I don't have ABSOLUTE certainty that any given priest is valid, since, who knows? ... maybe someone botched his Baptism.  I don't have ABSOLUTE certainty that the Holy Communion I received last Sunday was in fact the Blessed Sacrament because ... what if Father messed up the consecration.  Very few things in life admit of absolute certainty.

We could, when we die, be surprised to find that some departed non-Catholic received some miraculous extraordinary grace, which St. Alphonsus characterized as incredibly rare ... but until then we presume that no such thing happened, since the only purpose this speculation serves is to gut faith in the dogma that there can be no salvation outside the Church.

That is why one of the first things a Traditional Pope should do would be to ban all discussion and mention of so-called "Baptism of Desire", since it serves absolutely no purpose to even speculate about it other than to undermine faith.  If there is such a thing, my lack of belief in it makes no difference.  If, however, there is no such thing, my spewing about it will just lead to people not desiring Baptism as much and becoming complacent about their salvation.  in fact, even if it DOES exist, my spewing about it will in fact make it less likely to happen.  Who is going to "desire" Baptism more, the person who believes he can't be saved without it ... or the person who puts his confidence in the desire for Baptism, and who ends up desiring the desire for Baptism rather than Baptism itself.

What's discouraging is so many so-called Trad Catholics here promoted the deviant Trump during the 2024 election cycle, compromising themselves by voting for a pro-genocide and pro-abortion scuмbag, something I'd never thought I would live to see ... and now they're compromising the faith yet again by emoting in favor of the (non-deceased) "Saint Kirk".  There's almost no faith left in the world.

I don't see how God will not punish this nation for voting that genocidal pro-abortion filth into office, and pretending that it was righteousness to do so.  Everyone who pulled the lever for Trump has the blood of innocents on his hands, since it was well known before the election that Trump favored the genocide and is pro abortion.

2715. Duties of the Priest as to the Application of Mass.—(a) For Whom May Mass Be Applied?—Mass may be offered for all objects not forbidden. From the divine law it is forbidden to offer Mass for those who are incapable of receiving its benefits (e.g., the demons, infants who died without Baptism, the Saints), or for intentions that are displeasing to God (e.g., for success in evil). From the ecclesiastical law certain restrictions are made on the application of Mass in order to safeguard reverence and prevent scandal. Thus, Mass may be said only privately (that is, without publicity or special liturgical solemnity) and prudently (that is, with avoidance of scandal, for example, by the declaration that Mass is said for the faithful departed with the purpose of aiding also a departed unbeliever, if this is pleasing to God) for the living and dead outside the Church, such as infidels, heretics, schismatics, and the excommunicated. Moreover, for a _vitandus_ Mass may be applied only when the intention is his conversion (Canon 809).

What's discouraging is so many so-called Trad Catholics here promoted the deviant Trump during the 2024 election cycle, compromising themselves by voting for a pro-genocide and pro-abortion scuмbag, something I'd never thought I would live to see ... and now they're compromising the faith yet again by emoting in favor of the (non-deceased) "Saint Kirk".  There's almost no faith left in the world.

Right- he is not dead
Valhalla

https://rumble.com/v6z5bz0-see-you-in-valhalla-kirks-cryptic-goodbyes-tell-us-he-is-alive-and-in-the-w.html?e9s=src_v1_cmd%2Csrc_v1_upp_f

I could almost accept some reluctance to believe in the Immaculate Conception from a Prot, as there were some Catholics even before it was defined who were not sure about that.

***Such as St. Thomas Aquinas.

BUT ... his assertion that Our Lady did not remain a virgin was incredibly vile and blasphemous, and I'm sick of all these "Catholics" praising Kirk, and of course denying that dogma that there's no salvation outside the Church as if some alleged trajectory or "path" to "conversion" somehow puts one inside the Church.

***What is the difference between the Immaculate Conception and Our Lady's miraculous virginity? Both are difficult concepts to embrace when scripture says so very little about them.

Aside from the fact that Kirk is not dead ... if in fact he had died, we do not pray for him, but instead we say that he was lost.  While someone could argue that it's possible that by some miracle he may have converted in his last moments ... it's forbidden even to say that, since the more people emphasize that it's "possible", the less they believe that barring such an extraordinary miracle it's NOT possible.

***It's always possible. Especially with someone who had started saying the rosary and going to Mass. Conversion can take place in an instant.

I made the analogy about other moral certainties.  I could go around declaring every priest I know to be "presumed valid" rather than simply saying that "he's valid", but the more I characterize it as "presumed valid", the more doubt I actually plant in people's minds.

When we have moral certainty about something, we simply state that thing as if it were fact.  I don't have ABSOLUTE certainty that any given priest is valid, since, who knows? ... maybe someone botched his Baptism.  I don't have ABSOLUTE certainty that the Holy Communion I received last Sunday was in fact the Blessed Sacrament because ... what if Father messed up the consecration.  Very few things in life admit of absolute certainty.

We could, when we die, be surprised to find that some departed non-Catholic received some miraculous extraordinary grace, which St. Alphonsus characterized as incredibly rare ... but until then we presume that no such thing happened, since the only purpose this speculation serves is to gut faith in the dogma that there can be no salvation outside the Church.

***Rare means not impossible. There are therefore precedents.

***Why presume? Yes, there is no salvation outside the Church, but we can hope that Kirk died within the Church. There is no time with God. Our prayers, as St. Padre Pio states, can be applied to someone who died hundreds of years ago. Let us then pray that Kirk, who had started saying the rosary and witnessed going to Mass on the Sundays leading up to his death, got that rare grace. Every soul is precious to God.

That is why one of the first things a Traditional Pope should do would be to ban all discussion and mention of so-called "Baptism of Desire", since it serves absolutely no purpose to even speculate about it other than to undermine faith.  If there is such a thing, my lack of belief in it makes no difference.  If, however, there is no such thing, my spewing about it will just lead to people not desiring Baptism as much and becoming complacent about their salvation.  in fact, even if it DOES exist, my spewing about it will in fact make it less likely to happen.  Who is going to "desire" Baptism more, the person who believes he can't be saved without it ... or the person who puts his confidence in the desire for Baptism, and who ends up desiring the desire for Baptism rather than Baptism itself.

***Baptism of desire is the desire to get baptised. If someone has the sincere desire to be sacramentally baptized into the one, true faith, then that baptism spiritually takes place. Remember, there is no time with God. Only the eternal present. It does not undermine the faith whatsoever. Only your disbelief in it undermines the faith.

What's discouraging is so many so-called Trad Catholics here promoted the deviant Trump during the 2024 election cycle, compromising themselves by voting for a pro-genocide and pro-abortion scuмbag, something I'd never thought I would live to see ... and now they're compromising the faith yet again by emoting in favor of the (non-deceased) "Saint Kirk".  There's almost no faith left in the world.

***I'm not American, and certainly no fan of Trumps, but I can see why people voted for him. Who else was there? He was also smart. He surrounded himself with a lot of conservative people. It gave people a hope that he would at least be better than Biden.

***Do you have evidence that Kirk did not die?

I don't see how God will not punish this nation for voting that genocidal pro-abortion filth into office, and pretending that it was righteousness to do so.  Everyone who pulled the lever for Trump has the blood of innocents on his hands, since it was well known before the election that Trump favored the genocide and is pro abortion.

*** In politics, people tend to accept what they believe is "the lesser of two evils". They feel they had no choice. Trump played his cards well - 'Make American Great Again'. Who wouldn't want that? He appealed to everyone across the board - even got Catholic Vance as his side-kick. People hoped that Trump was changing. Even I hoped we would be proven wrong.

Here is the video of Dominic that Dan at Catholic Family Podcast disagrees with.https://youtu.be/3GPHUylgCoA?si=xeQ5nyGiSjnsCuW1

(1) Yes, I stand corrected. I did not know it constituted a blasphemous act to deny Our Lady's virginity. I do submit to the Church's authority on this matter.

(2) Yes, I still believe that a spiritual shift was happening to Kirk. I still believe that it is possible, because of this outward spiritual shift, that Kirk was saved. That video is a month old. Kirk's friends testify that he was going through a spiritual conversion. They know him better than you or I.  With regards to Satan - bad choice of example. Satan understands the truth. Kirk obviously did not understand the truth when he spoke.

Saint Padre Pio: “For the Lord, the past doesn’t exist; the future doesn’t exist. Everything is an eternal present. Those prayers had already been taken into account. And so I repeat that even now I can pray for the happy death of my great-grandfather.”

Right now, we can pray that that young man, who had started saying the rosary and attending Mass, came to see the errors of his words about Our Lady before he died. It only takes an instant as I know myself. And we can help him, even now. Worth the effort don't you think?