Author Topic: Ted Cruz drops out of presidential race (Read 3887 times)

TKGS · « **Reply #15 on:** May 04, 2016, 08:20:16 AM »

I do not see a real difference between a Cruz presidency and a Trump presidency. Any faithful Catholic who believes he could vote for Cruz can clearly vote for Trump. They both articulate the same basic policies--except on immigration. The only real unknown is whether Trump will follow through on his proposals to restrict immigration, deport illegals, and secure the boarder. Cruz has already voted in favor of immigration expansion. Both have indicated their desire to be war presidents.

tradlover · « **Reply #16 on:** May 04, 2016, 08:22:34 AM »

Trump is despised by the NWO establishment. That alone earns him my vote it should earn trads' votes as well.

Matthew · « **Reply #17 on:** May 04, 2016, 08:24:33 AM »

Quote from: Graham

Matt Walsh is a hack and watching his meltdown has been a glorious life experience.

Oh, boo hoo. He attacked your precious Trump.
With this kind of vindictiveness against a man whose words and principles OUGHT TO BE YOUR OWN, you should be ashamed of yourself.

Name ONE THING. Just ONE THING in the article that makes him a "hack" (whatever that means). Which line in the article was untrue, or did he go off course? I thought the whole thing was a breath of Catholic sanity.

And "watching his meltdown has been a glorious life experience"? You are just sick. There is no reason, even a HUMAN reason, to get happy even if he had a meltdown. This isn't Howard Stern, Hugh Hefner, or Hillary Clinton we're talking about. Matt Walsh isn't an enemy of God. How can you honestly glory in his misfortune?

I couldn't have written that article better myself. It was 100% powerful truth.
He enunciated the position of anyone holding to ANY KIND of standard of morality or religious belief.

I'm surprised that 100% of Trads aren't uttering words like his to everyone who will listen.

I will admit it took me by surprise how many Trads have been duped by Trump. Frankly, I still don't understand it. The only way I can wrap my mind around it is to fall back on what I tell people all the time: You're part of the world, don't kid yourself. Catholics are just as much part of the world as everyone else -- going to a Latin Mass for 1 hour on Sunday doesn't totally make you above it all.

I guess I was hoping Catholics could avoid becoming children of this age.

Chesterton said, "[The Catholic Faith] is the only thing that frees a man from the degrading slavery of being a child of his age."

Perhaps the Catholic Faith CAN free a man from this degrading slavery, but some men embrace the slavery anyhow!

Centroamerica · « **Reply #18 on:** May 04, 2016, 08:58:41 AM »

Just being honest to myself, Trump could be good for America or he could be bad. We don't know what will come out of his presidency anymore than we knew what would've come out of a Bush presidency.

I can say this though, because I am not biased at all in this election, he is a nationalist, anti-globalist, in favor of securing America's interests, and destroying ISIS (and he has a bit of a scandalous public life that I know no details about whatsoever), whereas Hillary Clinton is completely the opposite and will surely continue to push the PC agenda and everything else. I mean sometimes you have to be realistic. Realistically speaking, Trump has proved to be someone that will put American jobs and security first. Hillary is not. If you say you won't vote for anyone that has a scandalous incident in their past, then you wouldn't even vote for St. Peter the Apostle himself. Let's not be throwing any babies out with the bath water...

Nishant · « **Reply #19 on:** May 04, 2016, 10:27:26 AM »

Agreed. In this case, I think the most moral option is not to vote. It comes down to whether you want to vote for Hillary or someone who was her close friend for a long time, funded her and considered her just great. Long after Bill was a known unrepentant adulterer and perjurer, Trump - who is also one - was very pally with the Clintons, close to Planned Parenthood etc, basically a lifelong liberal. Its only now that he claims to have changed all that and become a pro-life conservative without demonstrating anything like contrition or repentance for that former lawless lifestyle. It's really no choice at all.

Matthew · « **Reply #20 on:** May 04, 2016, 10:53:51 AM »

And to clarify, I have been trying to inject some Catholic sanity into this "Trump mania" since the very beginning.

Graham will dismiss me as "Oh, he's just disappointed that Ted Cruz dropped out." but Graham has already proven himself to be sloppy about the facts: He publicly said I was a Cruz supporter at a point in time when I hadn't said a single thing publicly about who I was "rooting for". He just assumed I was a Cruz fanboy, because I was speaking against Trump.

Read my posts. I haven't said much good about Cruz. The most I've said is that I'm rooting for him against Trump, and that he's a better choice than Trump. But if you look closely (at what I think of Trump), that isn't saying much, really!

I will be voting for whatever Third Party candidate suits my fancy this November. Anyone but Trump or Hillary, really.

But the truth of the matter: I've been swimming against the "Trump current" for months, as Trump has been embraced in the Traditional Catholic world as a ray of hope, something between Putin's right hand man (who they also believe strongly in) and the Great Catholic Monarch.

As a SANE Catholic, this boggles my mind. Are we talking about the same man? Every day I learn more things about Trump which don't demand respect -- quite the contrary.

The latest gem about Trump: a few decades ago, on the Howard Stern show, Trump bragged about his lifestyle, and talked about how his struggle with Venereal Disease was "his own personal Vietnam".

And this is the man running on the Republican ticket!

TheRealMcCoy · « **Reply #21 on:** May 04, 2016, 11:41:04 AM »

I believe Cruz and Trump are both Deep State operatives.

JezusDeKoning · « **Reply #22 on:** May 04, 2016, 11:48:12 AM »

Quote from: Matthew

And to clarify, I have been trying to inject some Catholic sanity into this "Trump mania" since the very beginning.

Graham will dismiss me as "Oh, he's just disappointed that Ted Cruz dropped out." but Graham has already proven himself to be sloppy about the facts: He publicly said I was a Cruz supporter at a point in time when I hadn't said a single thing publicly about who I was "rooting for". He just assumed I was a Cruz fanboy, because I was speaking against Trump.

Read my posts. I haven't said much good about Cruz. The most I've said is that I'm rooting for him against Trump, and that he's a better choice than Trump. But if you look closely (at what I think of Trump), that isn't saying much, really!

I will be voting for whatever Third Party candidate suits my fancy this November. Anyone but Trump or Hillary, really.

But the truth of the matter: I've been swimming against the "Trump current" for months, as Trump has been embraced in the Traditional Catholic world as a ray of hope, something between Putin's right hand man (who they also believe strongly in) and the Great Catholic Monarch.

As a SANE Catholic, this boggles my mind. Are we talking about the same man? Every day I learn more things about Trump which don't demand respect -- quite the contrary.

The latest gem about Trump: a few decades ago, on the Howard Stern show, Trump bragged about his lifestyle, and talked about how his struggle with Venereal Disease was "his own personal Vietnam".

And this is the man running on the Republican ticket!

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

PG · « **Reply #23 on:** May 04, 2016, 11:56:34 AM »

tkgs - the main difference between trump and cruz(and everyone else for that matter) is on trade; Cruz supports nafta and tpp, and Trump opposes both.

Nishant promotes rubio but thinks that now the moral option is to not vote trump in a general election against the democrats. Give us a break. I wonder if he would have played that same tune if trump needed rubios delegates for the win and selected him VP. Well, it doesn't look that way anymore. And, thankfully that means we can have a VP who is not establishment and in place for the politicians to impeach trump on some phony claim. Trump will pick a VP that the establishment will not want as much as they don't want him.

And, I will be gracious and give matthew benefit of doubt and say that the only reason matthew roots cruz is for a contested election to steal it from trump and perhaps even cruz; in which case, most pundits agree the party will be divided, and the election gets handed over to the democrats. So, that is pretty much a hopeless hope, and a terribly foolish strategy. But, that is where matthew places his heart.

TKGS · « **Reply #24 on:** May 04, 2016, 12:15:41 PM »

Quote from: PG

tkgs - the main difference between trump and cruz(and everyone else for that matter) is on trade; Cruz supports nafta and tpp, and Trump opposes both.

This only means that Trump is more acceptable to American Catholics than Cruz.

jman123 · « **Reply #25 on:** May 04, 2016, 12:18:24 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

And to clarify, I have been trying to inject some Catholic sanity into this "Trump mania" since the very beginning.

Graham will dismiss me as "Oh, he's just disappointed that Ted Cruz dropped out." but Graham has already proven himself to be sloppy about the facts: He publicly said I was a Cruz supporter at a point in time when I hadn't said a single thing publicly about who I was "rooting for". He just assumed I was a Cruz fanboy, because I was speaking against Trump.

Read my posts. I haven't said much good about Cruz. The most I've said is that I'm rooting for him against Trump, and that he's a better choice than Trump. But if you look closely (at what I think of Trump), that isn't saying much, really!

I will be voting for whatever Third Party candidate suits my fancy this November. Anyone but Trump or Hillary, really.

But the truth of the matter: I've been swimming against the "Trump current" for months, as Trump has been embraced in the Traditional Catholic world as a ray of hope, something between Putin's right hand man (who they also believe strongly in) and the Great Catholic Monarch.

As a SANE Catholic, this boggles my mind. Are we talking about the same man? Every day I learn more things about Trump which don't demand respect -- quite the contrary.

The latest gem about Trump: a few decades ago, on the Howard Stern show, Trump bragged about his lifestyle, and talked about how his struggle with Venereal Disease was "his own personal Vietnam".

And this is the man running on the Republican ticket!

Most of my sspx parish parishioners back trump

Conspiracy_Factist · « **Reply #26 on:** May 04, 2016, 08:54:30 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

And to clarify, I have been trying to inject some Catholic sanity into this "Trump mania" since the very beginning.

Graham will dismiss me as "Oh, he's just disappointed that Ted Cruz dropped out." but Graham has already proven himself to be sloppy about the facts: He publicly said I was a Cruz supporter at a point in time when I hadn't said a single thing publicly about who I was "rooting for". He just assumed I was a Cruz fanboy, because I was speaking against Trump.

Read my posts. I haven't said much good about Cruz. The most I've said is that I'm rooting for him against Trump, and that he's a better choice than Trump. But if you look closely (at what I think of Trump), that isn't saying much, really!

I will be voting for whatever Third Party candidate suits my fancy this November. Anyone but Trump or Hillary, really.

But the truth of the matter: I've been swimming against the "Trump current" for months, as Trump has been embraced in the Traditional Catholic world as a ray of hope, something between Putin's right hand man (who they also believe strongly in) and the Great Catholic Monarch.

As a SANE Catholic, this boggles my mind. Are we talking about the same man? Every day I learn more things about Trump which don't demand respect -- quite the contrary.

The latest gem about Trump: a few decades ago, on the Howard Stern show, Trump bragged about his lifestyle, and talked about how his struggle with Venereal Disease was "his own personal Vietnam".

And this is the man running on the Republican ticket!

voting for Cruz over Trump means you don't know what's going on.Cruz is establishment..Trump isn't..it's not that hard to figure out...if the question is we have to respect their moral character we should just stay home...if the question is who is anti establishment, anti nwo there's only 1 choice that a sane person would make.....Go Trump

Croixalist · « **Reply #27 on:** May 04, 2016, 10:14:41 PM »

Both tried to outdo the other when it comes to the support of Israel and between Cruz's philandering and Trump's tranny-pandering, there's no decent Catholic option that I know of.

Charlemagne · « **Reply #28 on:** May 04, 2016, 11:44:01 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

It won't be Trump though. That much is certain. And I encourage everyone to do the same.

Advice considered, and ignored completely.

rum · « **Reply #29 on:** May 05, 2016, 01:08:46 AM »

Trump is compromised. Who cares? All politicians in multi-racial, multi-religious states are compromised. Stalemate culture. How is Ted Cruz the lesser of two evils as far as policy? I have yet to see a good argument.

Graham is right, Matt Walsh is a hack. He looks like Louis C.K.

I'm always suspicious of respectable "Catholics." Jews determine who is respectable and who isn't. Only un-respectable Catholics have the potential to be trustworthy.