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  • Every name has a history. Charlie James Kirk is no exception. By tracing each part to its linguistic roots, we uncover a literal meaning that is precise, verifiable, and fully grounded in history.

    1. Charlie
       •   Origin: Diminutive of Charles
       •   Charles: From Latin Carolus, from Germanic Karl
       •   Karl: Old High German “man, free man”
       •   Literal meaning: “free man”
       •   Sources: Behind the Name; Oxford English Dictionary; Germanic onomastics

    2. James
       •   Origin: English form of Iacomus (Latin)
       •   Iacomus: From Greek Iakobos, from Hebrew Ya‘aqov (Jacob)
       •   Ya‘aqov: Root יעקב (‘aqav) → “heel” / “supplanter”
       •   Biblical context: Jacob grasped his brother’s heel at birth, giving the name the literal meaning “supplanter”
       •   Literal meaning: “supplanter”
       •   Sources: Strong’s Hebrew 3290; Behind the Name; Biblical etymology references

    3. Kirk
       •   Origin: Scottish / Northern English surname
       •   From: Old Norse kirkja, from Old English cirice, from Greek kyriakon (doma) → “Lord’s house”
       •   Usage: Denoted someone living near or working at a church
       •   Literal meaning: “church”
       •   Sources: Oxford English Dictionary; surname etymology dictionaries

    Literal Translation of the Full Name:
    Charlie James Kirk → “Free man, supplanter, of the church.”

    This reading is fully literal, etymologically grounded, and traceable through historical linguistic sources.

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    Re: Charlie James Kirk Etymology→ Free man, supplanter, of the church.
    « Reply #1 on: September 17, 2025, 10:18:09 PM »
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  • Every name has a history. Charlie James Kirk is no exception. By tracing each part to its linguistic roots, we uncover a literal meaning that is precise, verifiable, and fully grounded in history.

    1. Charlie
       •   Origin: Diminutive of Charles
       •   Charles: From Latin Carolus, from Germanic Karl
       •   Karl: Old High German “man, free man”
       •   Literal meaning: “free man”
       •   Sources: Behind the Name; Oxford English Dictionary; Germanic onomastics

    2. James
       •   Origin: English form of Iacomus (Latin)
       •   Iacomus: From Greek Iakobos, from Hebrew Ya‘aqov (Jacob)
       •   Ya‘aqov: Root יעקב (‘aqav) → “heel” / “supplanter”
       •   Biblical context: Jacob grasped his brother’s heel at birth, giving the name the literal meaning “supplanter”
       •   Literal meaning: “supplanter”
       •   Sources: Strong’s Hebrew 3290; Behind the Name; Biblical etymology references

    3. Kirk
       •   Origin: Scottish / Northern English surname
       •   From: Old Norse kirkja, from Old English cirice, from Greek kyriakon (doma) → “Lord’s house”
       •   Usage: Denoted someone living near or working at a church
       •   Literal meaning: “church”
       •   Sources: Oxford English Dictionary; surname etymology dictionaries

    Literal Translation of the Full Name:
    Charlie James Kirk → “Free man, supplanter, of the church.”

    This reading is fully literal, etymologically grounded, and traceable through historical linguistic sources.

    A free individual whose position can supplant another, or who may be strategically replaced within an organization


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    Re: Charlie James Kirk Etymology→ Free man, supplanter, of the church.
    « Reply #2 on: September 17, 2025, 10:57:34 PM »
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  • How many guys have "James" for a middle name? That means "supplanter" which is usually a bad thing.

    I don't think most people name their children prophetically. Applying this level of significance to a full name borders on superstition.

    Translation or etymology? Sure. You can literally translate each name, as you have done above. But what SIGNIFICANCE does that translation have? Absolutely zero.

    It's a curiosity at best -- but it means absolutely nothing. The crying baby boy born to the "Kirk" family, named Charles James, you're saying was intended from birth to be a "free man" who would also be a "supplanter of the Church"?

    That's extremely autistic -- if not insane.
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    Re: Charlie James Kirk Etymology→ Free man, supplanter, of the church.
    « Reply #3 on: September 17, 2025, 11:25:52 PM »
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  • How many guys have "James" for a middle name? That means "supplanter" which is usually a bad thing.

    I don't think most people name their children prophetically. Applying this level of significance to a full name borders on superstition.

    Translation or etymology? Sure. You can literally translate each name, as you have done above. But what SIGNIFICANCE does that translation have? Absolutely zero.

    It's a curiosity at best -- but it means absolutely nothing. The crying baby boy born to the "Kirk" family, named Charles James, you're saying was intended from birth to be a "free man" who would also be a "supplanter of the Church"?

    That's extremely autistic -- if not insane.

    I am not entirely sure how it works out, I’m just sharing the actual literal etymology of his name.

    Like how does Elon Musk (LoneSkum) have the same name and similar story as a book written over 60+ years ago (Elon goes to Mars) or something like that.

    Take a look Washington DC it’s entirely designed to be freemasonic in structure and design, look at how much planning when it to that, lots of autism involved there.


    What I can say for sure is Trump, Owen’s, Bibi, Kirk, Fuentes, Shapiru, Alex Jones etc etc are all part of the same Walt Disney club.

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    Re: Charlie James Kirk Etymology→ Free man, supplanter, of the church.
    « Reply #4 on: September 17, 2025, 11:45:11 PM »
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  • I am not entirely sure how it works out, I’m just sharing the actual literal etymology of his name.

    Like how does Elon Musk (LoneSkum) have the same name and similar story as a book written over 60+ years ago (Elon goes to Mars) or something like that.

    Take a look Washington DC it’s entirely designed to be freemasonic in structure and design, look at how much planning when it to that, lots of autism involved there.


    What I can say for sure is Trump, Owen’s, Bibi, Kirk, Fuentes, Shapiru, Alex Jones etc etc are all part of the same Walt Disney club.

    Everyone needs to stop pretending Charlie Kirk is some kind of independent “conservative” voice. He’s nothing but a ZOG shill/slave, and the receipts are out in the open.
       •   Turning Point USA literally runs “TPUSA Stands With Israel” programs, trips to Israel, and “Young Jєωιѕн Leadership Summits.” They even ship out “Israel activism kits” to campuses. That’s not grassroots conservatism, that’s a political machine running PR for another country.
       •   Kirk himself goes to Israel, speaks at groups like Im Tirtzu, and gets praised by Israeli media and politicians. He admits his “eye-opening stint in Israel” changed him. No wonder he spends half his time defending Zionist interests instead of American ones.
       •   Look at the donors. TPUSA’s early money came through the David Horowitz network, and their big backers overlap with the same conservative-Zionist foundations that bankroll other pro-Israel outfits. It’s the same donor pipeline, just packaged for college kids.

    So no, Charlie Kirk isn’t some bold truth-teller. He’s a marketing front. Every move he makes lines up with shilling for the ѕуηαgσgυє. Whether or not you can prove a direct paycheck from Tel Aviv, his entire career is indistinguishable from one. That’s the definition of a ʝʊdɛօMason shill.


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    Re: Charlie James Kirk Etymology→ Free man, supplanter, of the church.
    « Reply #5 on: September 18, 2025, 04:55:50 AM »
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  • I am not entirely sure how it works out, I’m just sharing the actual literal etymology of his name.

    Like how does Elon Musk (LoneSkum) have the same name and similar story as a book written over 60+ years ago (Elon goes to Mars) or something like that.

    Take a look Washington DC it’s entirely designed to be freemasonic in structure and design, look at how much planning when it to that, lots of autism involved there.


    What I can say for sure is Trump, Owen’s, Bibi, Kirk, Fuentes, Shapiru, Alex Jones etc etc are all part of the same Walt Disney club.
    The book is called “Project Mars” and the title (not a given name) of the 5 year elected leader of Mars is called the “Elon”. The word elon means oak tree. It must be a really sad life you live thinking that nearly everything is a conspiracy and that nearly everyone is part of it……

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    Re: Charlie James Kirk Etymology→ Free man, supplanter, of the church.
    « Reply #6 on: September 18, 2025, 05:25:33 AM »
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  • Like how does Elon Musk (LoneSkum) have the same name and similar story as a book written over 60+ years ago (Elon goes to Mars) or something like that.

    Do you see how you stretched the truth…..hugely? Other than the name of the president character (the elon), the book has no relation to Elon Musk. Dude, why do you put out this crap?

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    Re: Charlie James Kirk Etymology→ Free man, supplanter, of the church.
    « Reply #7 on: September 18, 2025, 06:09:33 AM »
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  • Every name has a history. Charlie James Kirk is no exception. By tracing each part to its linguistic roots, we uncover a literal meaning that is precise, verifiable, and fully grounded in history.

    1. Charlie
     • Origin: Diminutive of Charles
     • Charles: From Latin Carolus, from Germanic Karl
     • Karl: Old High German “man, free man”
     • Literal meaning: “free man”
     • Sources: Behind the Name; Oxford English Dictionary; Germanic onomastics

    2. James
     • Origin: English form of Iacomus (Latin)
     • Iacomus: From Greek Iakobos, from Hebrew Ya‘aqov (Jacob)
     • Ya‘aqov: Root יעקב (‘aqav) → “heel” / “supplanter”
     • Biblical context: Jacob grasped his brother’s heel at birth, giving the name the literal meaning “supplanter”
     • Literal meaning: “supplanter”
     • Sources: Strong’s Hebrew 3290; Behind the Name; Biblical etymology references

    3. Kirk
     • Origin: Scottish / Northern English surname
     • From: Old Norse kirkja, from Old English cirice, from Greek kyriakon (doma) → “Lord’s house”
     • Usage: Denoted someone living near or working at a church
     • Literal meaning: “church”
     • Sources: Oxford English Dictionary; surname etymology dictionaries

    Literal Translation of the Full Name:
    Charlie James Kirk → “Free man, supplanter, of the church.”

    This reading is fully literal, etymologically grounded, and traceable through historical linguistic sources.
    Total crap……


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    Re: Charlie James Kirk Etymology→ Free man, supplanter, of the church.
    « Reply #8 on: September 18, 2025, 07:21:12 AM »
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  • Everyone needs to stop pretending Charlie Kirk is some kind of independent “conservative” voice. He’s nothing but a ZOG shill/slave, and the receipts are out in the open.
     • Turning Point USA literally runs “TPUSA Stands With Israel” programs, trips to Israel, and “Young Jєωιѕн Leadership Summits.” They even ship out “Israel activism kits” to campuses. That’s not grassroots conservatism, that’s a political machine running PR for another country.
     • Kirk himself goes to Israel, speaks at groups like Im Tirtzu, and gets praised by Israeli media and politicians. He admits his “eye-opening stint in Israel” changed him. No wonder he spends half his time defending Zionist interests instead of American ones.
     • Look at the donors. TPUSA’s early money came through the David Horowitz network, and their big backers overlap with the same conservative-Zionist foundations that bankroll other pro-Israel outfits. It’s the same donor pipeline, just packaged for college kids.

    So no, Charlie Kirk isn’t some bold truth-teller. He’s a marketing front. Every move he makes lines up with shilling for the ѕуηαgσgυє. Whether or not you can prove a direct paycheck from Tel Aviv, his entire career is indistinguishable from one. That’s the definition of a ʝʊdɛօMason shill.
    Not every person is "in on it". I hadn't even heard of Charlie Kirk until my daughter brought his assassination to my attention. Since then, I have done some objective research. First and foremost I liked him immediately. Im a straight talker myself so I appreciate his openness and directness. I also appreciate his generosity of soul. He clearly believed in the Judo-Christian alliance he was being sold. As a young man on fire, he was of course delighted to get such ready support and financing. In short, he was a young person, with a lot of good intent and charisma, who was used and duped. So yes, he was a marketing front for the elites. No doubt about it. But was he aware of it at the time? This is where you and I part company. In every situation there is good and bad. And the bad, try to use and abuse the good. All markers indicate that Charlie was going through an awakening. An awakening of spirit, which lifted "the scales from his eyes" so he could see how he was being played. When he confronted the elites and refused to be played anymore, they took him out. It's that simple. They could not have him take that wide range of influence and re-direct it into the Catholic Church. Because that is where he was heading. They knew it. Charlie had made it clear that they had lost his loyalty and support. and that ultimately, for Charlie, Christ was King.

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    Re: Charlie James Kirk Etymology→ Free man, supplanter, of the church.
    « Reply #9 on: September 18, 2025, 07:33:17 AM »
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  • I am not entirely sure how it works out....


    What I can say for sure is Trump, Owen’s, Bibi, Kirk, Fuentes, Shapiru, Alex Jones etc etc are all part of the same Walt Disney club.
    So says Goofy ;)

    Not all you say is nonsense, but you're clearly a person of extremes. Learn to discern and tread carefully when it concerns people's personal reputations.

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    Re: Charlie James Kirk Etymology→ Free man, supplanter, of the church.
    « Reply #10 on: September 18, 2025, 07:58:12 AM »
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  • Not every person is "in on it". I hadn't even heard of Charlie Kirk until my daughter brought his assassination to my attention. Since then, I have done some objective research. First and foremost I liked him immediately. Im a straight talker myself so I appreciate his openness and directness. I also appreciate his generosity of soul. He clearly believed in the Judo-Christian alliance he was being sold. As a young man on fire, he was of course delighted to get such ready support and financing. In short, he was a young person, with a lot of good intent and charisma, who was used and duped. So yes, he was a marketing front for the elites. No doubt about it. But was he aware of it at the time? This is where you and I part company. In every situation there is good and bad. And the bad, try to use and abuse the good. All markers indicate that Charlie was going through an awakening. An awakening of spirit, which lifted "the scales from his eyes" so he could see how he was being played. When he confronted the elites and refused to be played anymore, they took him out. It's that simple. They could not have him take that wide range of influence and re-direct it into the Catholic Church. Because that is where he was heading. They knew it. Charlie had made it clear that they had lost his loyalty and support. and that ultimately, for Charlie, Christ was King.

    So now you claim "I hadn't even heard of Charlie Kirk until my daughter brought his assassination to my attention." Yet, in a post last night in the Kirk PSYOP thread you said the following:


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    Candace Owens is happily married to a lovely Englishman who thinks the world of her. Far from being "any husband's worst nightmare" George Farmer - a devoted Catholic - asked her to marry him after only weeks of meeting her. They both take their faith seriously, are publicly and actively pro-life, intend to home-school their children and mix with equally nice people.


    In that quote above, you claimed to know who Candace "mixes with" and that they were "nice people." But you now say that you never heard of Charlie Kirk? Candace Owens said in a recent video that Charlie Kirk was her "best friend."

    You are either intentionally trying to deceive people or you are just a blabber-mouth liar claiming to have knowledge of facts that you do not have. Which is it?

    Did you lie when you claimed to know who Candace Owens "mixes with?" Were you just babbling and exaggerating to win the argument? Or do you actually know Candace Owens personally, but did not know that she and Kirk were "best friends?"


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    Re: Charlie James Kirk Etymology→ Free man, supplanter, of the church.
    « Reply #11 on: September 18, 2025, 08:23:57 AM »
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  • So now you claim "I hadn't even heard of Charlie Kirk until my daughter brought his assassination to my attention." Yet, in a post last night in the Kirk PSYOP thread you said the following:



    In that quote above, you claimed to know who Candace "mixes with" and that they were "nice people." But you now say that you never heard of Charlie Kirk? Candace Owens said in a recent video that Charlie Kirk was her "best friend."

    You are either intentionally trying to deceive people or you are just a blabber-mouth liar claiming to have knowledge of facts that you do not have. Which is it?

    Did you lie when you claimed to know who Candace Owens "mixes with?" Were you just babbling and exaggerating to win the argument? Or do you actually know Candace Owens personally, but did not know that she and Kirk were "best friends?"
    She also said:

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    Yes they are rare. And I believe its very possible that Kirk was one of these rarities. Candace Owens, who is a long-time close friend and associate, said that he was in the midst of a spiritual transition before his death

    https://www.cathinfo.com/politics-and-world-leaders/the-charlie-kirk-psyop/msg998899/#msg998899

    Remarkable that you could be a "long-time close friend" with someone and not know who their "best friend" was .especially when that person is Owens, who had worked together with Kirk in the public sphere multiple times

    Now, she could spin that by saying she meant CO was the  "long-time close friend and associate" of Kirk (which she was)..but she did say "is" and not "was", and has already implied she has some sort of private knowledge about CO and her husband, not to mention the overtime Boru has put in defending CO from any an all criticism and attack. Either way, there is something fishy about this lady, and her continual attempts at subverting the Faith!
    John 15:19  If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

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    Re: Charlie James Kirk Etymology→ Free man, supplanter, of the church.
    « Reply #12 on: September 18, 2025, 08:42:27 AM »
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  • Not every person is "in on it". I hadn't even heard of Charlie Kirk until my daughter brought his assassination to my attention. Since then, I have done some objective research. First and foremost I liked him immediately. Im a straight talker myself so I appreciate his openness and directness. I also appreciate his generosity of soul. He clearly believed in the Judo-Christian alliance he was being sold. As a young man on fire, he was of course delighted to get such ready support and financing. In short, he was a young person, with a lot of good intent and charisma, who was used and duped. So yes, he was a marketing front for the elites. No doubt about it. But was he aware of it at the time? This is where you and I part company. In every situation there is good and bad. And the bad, try to use and abuse the good. All markers indicate that Charlie was going through an awakening. An awakening of spirit, which lifted "the scales from his eyes" so he could see how he was being played. When he confronted the elites and refused to be played anymore, they took him out. It's that simple. They could not have him take that wide range of influence and re-direct it into the Catholic Church. Because that is where he was heading. They knew it. Charlie had made it clear that they had lost his loyalty and support. and that ultimately, for Charlie, Christ was King.

    Boru, you claim that "all markers indicate that Charlie was going through an awakening." As evidence to the contrary, I present the Charlie Kirk Podcast (the day before the shooting). Who was his guest?...Ben Shapiro, who admits on that Podcast to be an unrepentant Jew and Zionist. Listen to the part starting at 21:25.

    https://omny.fm/shows/the-charlie-kirk-show/ben-shapiro-on-george-floyd-israel-and-gen-z/

    While asking softball questions, Kirk is clearly deferring to Ben Shapiro's take on things regarding Israeli policies. Kirk then makes an ironic joke, near the end of that section, saying to the effect "Oh come on Ben, everyone knows Israel controls the media and that's why the coverage is so sympathetic to Israel." Again, Kirk was clearly saying the opposite: that Israel does not control the media and the evidence is that the media picks on Israel.

    Then there is a weird final discussion about Bibi said "you can't be MAGA unless you support Israel against Hamas." Shapiro agrees. Kirk agrees with Shapiro's take. Kirk does not challenge Shapiro.

    So, in essence. Kirk was playing the good Zionist soldier up to the end, as far as the public record shows. He brought Shapiro onto his own show and let Shapiro (Zionism) do almost all of the talking and did not challenge Shapiro on anything substantial.

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    Re: Charlie James Kirk Etymology→ Free man, supplanter, of the church.
    « Reply #13 on: September 18, 2025, 10:45:51 AM »
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  • So now you claim "I hadn't even heard of Charlie Kirk until my daughter brought his assassination to my attention." Yet, in a post last night in the Kirk PSYOP thread you said the following:



    In that quote above, you claimed to know who Candace "mixes with" and that they were "nice people." But you now say that you never heard of Charlie Kirk? Candace Owens said in a recent video that Charlie Kirk was her "best friend."

    You are either intentionally trying to deceive people or you are just a blabber-mouth liar claiming to have knowledge of facts that you do not have. Which is it?

    Did you lie when you claimed to know who Candace Owens "mixes with?" Were you just babbling and exaggerating to win the argument? Or do you actually know Candace Owens personally, but did not know that she and Kirk were "best friends?"


    My knowledge of either party is based on my research and my conclusions from that research. Until I did that research I did not know who Kirk was and I did not know he was close friends with Candace Owens. I've only recently discovered Candace Owens and that was via her 'Becoming Brigitte' series. Since discovering them, I have watched a ton of videos from their shows and also videos detailing their lives and backgrounds. My only personal connection to the Kirks is an American friend from the parish who has friends who know them and say they are lovely, friendly, genuine people who have been attending Mass regularly as a family leading up to Charlie's murder. 

    Your mindset amazes me. You actually go looking for conspiracy's behind every single innocent remark. I'm defending Kirk and Candace because you - and many here - are trashing their names without any evidence. You are literally making it up based on your twisted compulsion to make a conspiracy out of everything and everyone. You cannot even make a basic comment without being rude. And if I merely present you with contrary information (eg. that Candace has a happy marriage and mixes with nice people) in response to the unfounded trash that she is "a nasty woman" and "any husband's worst nighmare", you accuse me of being deceitful and a "blabber-mouth lair".

    What is our rule of thumb as Catholics? To always think the best of people unless there is concrete evidence to the contrary. And even then, we should pray for their conversion and treat their names respectfully - 'there goes I but for the grace of God'.  I may not have intimate knowledge of Candace or Kirk but neither do you. And all external evidence supports that these are two converts who had/were in the process of, waking up to the enemies using them. They should be applauded, not condemned.

    As for yourself, I would advise you go on an Ignatian Retreat and stay away from Social Media for a while. The very fact you now think I'm "a pro (meaning she is being paid to play this role). She is not just some overly-emotional British homeschooling mom who loves dogs and horses. She is an influencer paid by the same people who fund TurningPoint" - after I've been accused of being the lawyer John Salza and even a secret SSPX priest, is - I'm laughing so much I can't even think of an adjective to adequately describe such crazy paranoid thinking.

    Please, I assure you I am not a spy (sorry to disappoint). I am just a normal Catholic mum - who really does love dogs and horses - and who after years and years of home-schooling, has wide and varied interests.

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    Re: Charlie James Kirk Etymology→ Free man, supplanter, of the church.
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  • My knowledge of either party is based on my research and my conclusions from that research. Until I did that research I did not know who Kirk was and I did not know he was close friends with Candace Owens. I've only recently discovered Candace Owens and that was via her 'Becoming Brigitte' series. Since discovering them, I have watched a ton of videos from their shows and also videos detailing their lives and backgrounds. My only personal connection to the Kirks is an American friend from the parish who has friends who know them and say they are lovely, friendly, genuine people who have been attending Mass regularly as a family leading up to Charlie's murder. 

    Your mindset amazes me. You actually go looking for conspiracy's behind every single innocent remark. I'm defending Kirk and Candace because you - and many here - are trashing their names without any evidence. You are literally making it up based on your twisted compulsion to make a conspiracy out of everything and everyone. You cannot even make a basic comment without being rude. And if I merely present you with contrary information (eg. that Candace has a happy marriage and mixes with nice people) in response to the unfounded trash that she is "a nasty woman" and "any husband's worst nighmare", you accuse me of being deceitful and a "blabber-mouth lair".

    What is our rule of thumb as Catholics? To always think the best of people unless there is concrete evidence to the contrary. And even then, we should pray for their conversion and treat their names respectfully - 'there goes I but for the grace of God'.  I may not have intimate knowledge of Candace or Kirk but neither do you. And all external evidence supports that these are two converts who had/were in the process of, waking up to the enemies using them. They should be applauded, not condemned.

    As for yourself, I would advise you go on an Ignatian Retreat and stay away from Social Media for a while. The very fact you now think I'm "a pro (meaning she is being paid to play this role). She is not just some overly-emotional British homeschooling mom who loves dogs and horses. She is an influencer paid by the same people who fund TurningPoint" - after I've been accused of being the lawyer John Salza and even a secret SSPX priest, is - I'm laughing so much I can't even think of an adjective to adequately describe such crazy paranoid thinking.

    Please, I assure you I am not a spy (sorry to disappoint). I am just a normal Catholic mum - who really does love dogs and horses - and who after years and years of home-schooling, has wide and varied interests.

    Thanks for finally answering my question. So, in essence, you are a Candace Owens fan, repeating everything she says as if it is the gospel truth. She is a Trump MAGA Creature influencer first and foremost.  

    This idolization of Owens would explain why you regurgitate every talking point she says. So, in my defense, Candace is a "pro (meaning she is being paid to play this role)" and because you regurgitate her every word, maybe you can understand why I said what I said about you. You sound just like her.

    Having said that, I apologize that I said you were being paid to say what you said. You apparently didn't say those things because you were being paid, but simply because you are a sycophant of someone who is paid. 

    Now, let's go to the heart of the matter. The fact is that you are claiming things about Charlie Kirk that the objective evidence does not support.

    1. You claimed that he was converting to the Catholic faith. There is no objective evidence of that. 
    2. You claimed that he was no longer a tool of the zionists. There is objective evidence contrary to that in the final Charlie Kirk podcast that I posted. 

    I have been primarily focused on those facts. I have presented my evidence of those facts in the external forum. I said that your repetitive claims of points 1 and 2 (above), even in the face of clear evidence to the contrary, was itself evidence of either "intentional deception" or "blabber-mouth" lying.

    Why did I say that? Because you refused to address the specific points of evidence undermining your repetitious talking points. You continue to this moment to refuse to address the specific evidence presented. If you want me to think you are acting in good faith, then logically address the objective evidence and stop repetitiously emoting about "lovely families" and nonsense like that.

    You have now admitted that you don't have any direct personal knowledge of private life of Candace Owens. You don't know if she and her husband "mix with nice people." You lied when you said that, didn't you? Similarly, you have made a number of unsupportable statements about Kirk and his wife. About Kirk you are at the very least exaggerating about his conversion. Exaggeration in serious matters is a form of lying. I suggest you consult a handbook of Moral Theology if you are not sure about that.