Author Topic: Some Thoughts on the Iowa Caucus (Read 2638 times)

MaterDominici · « **Reply #15 on:** February 04, 2016, 08:01:02 PM »

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Here's the first Breitbart piece. There's supposedly something more damaging on the way, though they keep delaying it.

It looks like Cruz's campaign (and who are we kidding, probably Cruz himself) saw an opening and capitalized on an ambiguity, made no effort to confirm the truth, and delayed issuing a correction.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/04/ted-cruz-voicemails-ben-carson-exclusive-audio/

The issue is really much ado about nothing. Any caucus goer who really thought that a candidate would stay in the race right up until 30 minutes before the caucuses begin and then suddenly drop out just hours before the results are known needs to think things through just a bit more.

Passing around the info that he'd be taking a break was in poor taste, but CNN did it, Cruz campaign did it, Rubio campaign did it, some have put forth evidence that Paul supporters did as well. They all want to win and I've not seen anything that suggests any outright lies from someone who knew better.

If a media outlet has something really damaging, they'll probably wait until Sun/Mon so that it's the hot issue right before the next votes are cast.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #16 on:** February 04, 2016, 10:55:55 PM »

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Here's the first Breitbart piece. There's supposedly something more damaging on the way, though they keep delaying it.

It looks like Cruz's campaign (and who are we kidding, probably Cruz himself) saw an opening and capitalized on an ambiguity, made no effort to confirm the truth, and delayed issuing a correction.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/04/ted-cruz-voicemails-ben-carson-exclusive-audio/

Here are 3 interesting comments from the Breitbart site linked above:

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Ann2016 ✓ ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ 7dkag • 6 hours ago

Trump 2016 2020 and maybe one of his sons for 2024 2028. They call us Trumpbots, they have no idea how far we can take this.

I hope Trump not only files a complaint against Cruz as he said he’s considering doing but also he should investigate the integrity of the voting process in Iowa. I posted this before but it’s worth posting again since most people are unaware of it. The following is from someone who attended the caucus.

http://www.thepoliticalinsider...
Quote: The caucus I attended was so disorganized. The process we used to vote tonight was so different than other years. You used to divide up according to the candidate you supported and went into a separate room and voted. The votes were counted in front of everybody and then handed in. Tonight there were 4,000 people in a room and you gathered around a table according to precinct. No one knew if you were really from that precinct or not so you could go from table to table and vote. You also could vote, hand in your ballot and ask for another one and because there were so many people no one would have said anything. You could have voted for whoever you wanted to many times. It was disgraceful. Then once the ballots got to be counted, if the person counting them didn’t like your candidate, they could easily change the votes. This has never happened before at a caucus I attended and I am just shocked it was allowed to go on this way.

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Paulette McCoy Ann2016 ✓ ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ • 5 hours ago

Ann2016 Personally, I don't think in this day and age, they should even be doing it that way. Not to take away from Iowa's proud tradition, but should just have an early vote like the other states. As you have stated the current way it s being done allows to much opportunity cheating. I mean my goodness the democrats were tossing coins.

Ann2016 ✓ ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ Issachargo • 5 hours ago

Not ignorant at all, just a very intuitive woman who will predict for you that Trump wins the majority of primaries from now on. Then you’ll have to decide whether to vote for Trump or Hillary (although by that time she might be going through the court system) so it might come down to Trump and Sanders.

In the next few weeks my Trump comrades (or as you call them lemmings) and I will be very happy.

Date - State - Delegates
February 9 New Hampshire 23
February 20 South Carolina 50
February 23 Nevada caucus 30

Caraffa · « **Reply #17 on:** February 04, 2016, 11:04:50 PM »

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A legitimate blogger on the ground who covered iowa for I think 12 days full time leading up to the caucus concluded that microsoft committed voter fraud for rubio. Microsoft either directly or indirectly is financially funding rubios campaign. This blogger said trump had by far the largest crowds, and that rubio had virtually no crowds in iowa leading up. So, he is convinced there was voter fraud for rubio. How else do you explain it. Quite frankly, I suspect the same went for cruz.

The powers behind the scenes want Rubio because he has serious baggage and is thus easier to control. The media has kept his 1990 arrest for ~~sodomy~~ "alcohol" quiet so far.

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #18 on:** February 05, 2016, 09:59:28 AM »

Here is more:

Senator Ted Cruz Accused of committing voter fraud at Iowa
Caucus.

Intellihub

https://www.intellihub.com/sen-ted-cruz-accused-of-committing-voter-fraud-at-iowa-caucus/

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #19 on:** February 05, 2016, 02:40:51 PM »

Quote from: RomanCatholic1953

Here is more:

Senator Ted Cruz Accused of committing voter fraud at Iowa
Caucus.

Intellihub

https://www.intellihub.com/sen-ted-cruz-accused-of-committing-voter-fraud-at-iowa-caucus/

The link contains a video:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/X8hJofse56g[/youtube]

Near the end of this video, the speaker says that there could be a crime in what Cruz has done in regards to "election" fraud. But the Iowa caucus is not an election. It is a private affair within the Republican party and does not qualify as being anything under the US government. Therefore the courts are not going to get involved and the results of the Iowa caucus are not going to be reversed or deleted or made obsolete or done over again. The courts are not interested in the Iowa caucus.

Any "voter fraud" that went on under Ted Cruz' watch has nothing to do with "elections" in America, because the Iowa caucus is not an election.

But if this topic stays in the news, it has the potential of making a serious blemish on the character of Ted Cruz become a sticky mess. It could do him a lot of damage.

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HiddenServant · « **Reply #20 on:** February 05, 2016, 02:47:40 PM »

Recall lots of the candidates are paid for by us the taxpayers. Then they can
also make behind deals we know nothing about. So pray they can change.

PG · « **Reply #21 on:** February 05, 2016, 08:22:08 PM »

This is from yesterday. It is alex jones talking with roger stone about the caucus. Roger stone is definitely someone to listen too. And, the larry nicholz interview that immediately follows is really worth listening to. In sum, cruz is a really bad guy. It sounds as though he is a sociopath parading as a conservative(as that video of his youth reveals when he talks about desiring world domination, money, power, and women's breasts). And, rubio is a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ with lots of dirt on him. This explains the rubio high heels.

Larry nichols also reveals the hillary email scandal. And, it is a blackmale operation. Because, her emails are all the dirt of washington(on a private email). You can imagine this is why bernie says things like, "enough with the **** emails!" He is probably compromised by the contents. If they prosecute her for the emails, the information will become public. And, the prosecutors will be sealing their own fate in the process. It is hillary's own version of the samson doctrine(samson of the old testament bought down the pillars of the tent killing his captors with him).

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #22 on:** February 06, 2016, 12:14:45 PM »

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This is from yesterday. It is alex jones talking with roger stone about the caucus. Roger stone is definitely someone to listen too [to?]. And, the larry nicholz interview that immediately follows is really worth listening to. In sum, cruz is a really bad guy. It sounds as though he is a sociopath parading as a conservative(as that video of his youth reveals when he talks about desiring world domination, money, power, and women's breasts). And, rubio is a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ with lots of dirt on him. This explains the rubio high heels.

Larry nichols also reveals the hillary email scandal. And, it is a blackmale operation. Because, her emails are all the dirt of washington(on a private email). You can imagine this is why bernie says things like, "enough with the **** emails!" He is probably compromised by the contents. If they prosecute her for the emails, the information will become public. And, the prosecutors will be sealing their own fate in the process. It is hillary's own version of the samson doctrine(samson of the old testament bought down the pillars of the tent killing his captors with him).

That video is 3 hours long! Where are the Roger Stone and Larry Nicholz segments?

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #23 on:** February 06, 2016, 01:29:24 PM »

Larry Nichols (s not z) starts at minute 58. Talking from the hospital, where he's battling cancer. Says if he can't recover he's going to release his info like where the bodies are buried.

1:14 Nichols says Rubio is a queer. Ted Cruz is not what he is purported to be (he doesn't get more specific but perhaps he's talking about "evangelical"?).

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PG · « **Reply #24 on:** February 06, 2016, 04:49:59 PM »

Neil - I have reservations about larry nichols. I have not researched him thoroughly. But, what he says in that interview seems quite believable. But, some of the stuff I heard in another interview by him seems a little too extraordinary. For example, the word according to him that obama prays to mecca like five times a day or whatever in the white house. And, obama wants UN ban ki moons position to promote world islam. And, that seems a little too far out there for an alleged ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ married to a tranny. Give me a break. But, it is none the less interesting. I do believe Roger Stone is the really deal though. He is on mainstream media frequently, and has quite a resume.

MaterDominici · « **Reply #25 on:** February 06, 2016, 11:59:07 PM »

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Neil - I have reservations about larry nichols. I have not researched him thoroughly. But, what he says in that interview seems quite believable. But, some of the stuff I heard in another interview by him seems a little too extraordinary. For example, the word according to him that obama prays to mecca like five times a day or whatever in the white house. And, obama wants UN ban ki moons position to promote world islam. And, that seems a little too far out there for an alleged ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ married to a tranny. Give me a break. But, it is none the less interesting.

Just reservations??

I'd recommend you find another source before you believe anything this guy says. He might happen to be right twice a day. ; )

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #26 on:** February 09, 2016, 04:26:50 AM »

There is an abiding reason why Hillary hasn't been indicted yet for her e-mail security breach. An indictment and prosecution would result in her e-mails becoming publicly viewable, and they contain highly incriminating information in regards to many Capitol Hill regulars who don't want their dirty laundry made public. If we could all see what she wrote far too many dirty secrets would become common knowledge, so the affected players want it all hushed up.

Consequently, her traitorous actions get mentioned far more in the Republican debates than they do in the Democrat debates, and meanwhile Bernie Sanders gets more support. The "First in the Nation" caucus results in New Hampshire a few hours ago (Dixville Notch) gave Hillary ZERO votes and Sanders got 4. (There were a total of 9 votes.)

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PG · « **Reply #27 on:** February 09, 2016, 02:20:25 PM »

materdominici - That interview was the first I had heard of larry nichols. And, the main things he spoke about in that interview were reasonable, and it was the first time I had heard them(emails work as blackmale, and rubio is queer). That was really all of the interview. I posted that link because of the roger stone segment talking about iowa, but I decided to refer the nichols part too. Mea culpa. And, after more research, I think that larry nichols is a total disinfo agent. A youtuber named Pete santilli exposes him. And, I recommend you tune nichols him out entirely. I normally tune out alex jones, but I wanted to hear roger stone. However, this serves as a reminder.