Author Topic: Define Liberal and Conservative (Read 4397 times)

Belloc · « **Reply #15 on:** August 06, 2009, 12:26:03 PM »

Quote from: Dawn

Liberalism is a sin, and "Conservatism" holds shades of gray. Look at the Republican Party. There is only one way and that is Catholic.

here here :applause: :alcohol:

that book is good one too, have it.....

Belloc · « **Reply #16 on:** August 06, 2009, 02:37:43 PM »

Quote from: roscoe

It is easier to define far right

Infallible Comstitution of Roman Catholc Church

http://www.ewtn.com/library/COUNCILS/V1.HTM#4 and #6

This is not an endorsement of ewtn

I occ use their stuff, with some trepidation, but if it is right.....I also do not endorse EWTN.....

radtrad · « **Reply #17 on:** August 06, 2009, 02:38:15 PM »

Quote from: Vandaler

How do you go from bi-partisanship, which is a centrist compromise, to communism, which is an extreme flavour of liberalism ?

I think you have mixed up bi-partisanship with centrism. While bi-partisanship is simply two parties agreeing, centrisim is simply being in the middle of the two parties (usually evidenced by holding beliefs from both sides of the aisle). But just because the Republicans and the Democrats agree on something doesn't mean that it is centrist.

Bi-partisanship can be a good thing, as long as they are correct about the issue. What happens in America, however, is any "compromise" is done by the Republicans moving closer to the Liberal point of view. Voila! Then you have bi-partisanship! The parties are somewhat synonymous... they are both liberal. There really isn't a conservative party anymore.

Robert

Belloc · « **Reply #18 on:** August 06, 2009, 02:41:11 PM »

Quote from: radtrad

Quote from: Vandaler

How do you go from bi-partisanship, which is a centrist compromise, to communism, which is an extreme flavour of liberalism ?

I think you have mixed up bi-partisanship with centrism. While bi-partisanship is simply two parties agreeing, centrisim is simply being in the middle of the two parties (usually evidenced by holding beliefs from both sides of the aisle). But just because the Republicans and the Democrats agree on something doesn't mean that it is centrist.

Bi-partisanship can be a good thing, as long as they are correct about the issue. What happens in America, however, is any "compromise" is done by the Republicans moving closer to the Liberal point of view. Voila! Then you have bi-partisanship! The parties are somewhat synonymous... they are both liberal. There really isn't a conservative party anymore.

Robert

Something to ponder too, in Britain, all 3 major parties are por-EU, though supposedly political enemies...eventually, due to money, fame,etc-large Parites can become infiltrate and corrupted......

Parties there or in USA may work together or argue, but it is usually in small things, never on principle such questions not asked like "is this constitutional" or not......or "is this in line with God's law" or not......

just some $.02

Caraffa · « **Reply #19 on:** August 06, 2009, 06:39:11 PM »

Chesterton perhaps said it best: "The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of the Conservatives is to prevent the mistakes from being corrected."

Belloc · « **Reply #20 on:** August 07, 2009, 08:35:32 AM »

Quote from: Caraffa

Chesterton perhaps said it best: "The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of the Conservatives is to prevent the mistakes from being corrected."

So True!!

radtrad · « **Reply #21 on:** August 07, 2009, 08:20:01 PM »

Quote from: Caraffa

Chesterton perhaps said it best: "The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of the Conservatives is to prevent the mistakes from being corrected."

:applause:

Robert

roscoe · « **Reply #22 on:** August 09, 2009, 04:06:25 PM »

Quote from: Belloc

Quote from: radtrad
Quote from: Vandaler

How do you go from bi-partisanship, which is a centrist compromise, to communism, which is an extreme flavour of liberalism ?

I think you have mixed up bi-partisanship with centrism. While bi-partisanship is simply two parties agreeing, centrisim is simply being in the middle of the two parties (usually evidenced by holding beliefs from both sides of the aisle). But just because the Republicans and the Democrats agree on something doesn't mean that it is centrist.

Bi-partisanship can be a good thing, as long as they are correct about the issue. What happens in America, however, is any "compromise" is done by the Republicans moving closer to the Liberal point of view. Voila! Then you have bi-partisanship! The parties are somewhat synonymous... they are both liberal. There really isn't a conservative party anymore.

Robert

Something to ponder too, in Britain, all 3 major parties are por-EU, though supposedly political enemies...eventually, due to money, fame,etc-large Parites can become infiltrate and corrupted......

Parties there or in USA may work together or argue, but it is usually in small things, never on principle such questions not asked like "is this constitutional" or not......or "is this in line with God's law" or not......

just some $.02

The BNP is apparently not a major party then because they are not pro- EU unless I am mistaken.

Belloc · « **Reply #23 on:** August 10, 2009, 07:07:57 AM »

Quote from: roscoe

Quote from: Belloc
Quote from: radtrad
Quote from: Vandaler

How do you go from bi-partisanship, which is a centrist compromise, to communism, which is an extreme flavour of liberalism ?

I think you have mixed up bi-partisanship with centrism. While bi-partisanship is simply two parties agreeing, centrisim is simply being in the middle of the two parties (usually evidenced by holding beliefs from both sides of the aisle). But just because the Republicans and the Democrats agree on something doesn't mean that it is centrist.

Bi-partisanship can be a good thing, as long as they are correct about the issue. What happens in America, however, is any "compromise" is done by the Republicans moving closer to the Liberal point of view. Voila! Then you have bi-partisanship! The parties are somewhat synonymous... they are both liberal. There really isn't a conservative party anymore.

Robert

Something to ponder too, in Britain, all 3 major parties are por-EU, though supposedly political enemies...eventually, due to money, fame,etc-large Parites can become infiltrate and corrupted......

Parties there or in USA may work together or argue, but it is usually in small things, never on principle such questions not asked like "is this constitutional" or not......or "is this in line with God's law" or not......

just some $.02

The BNP is apparently not a major party then because they are not pro- EU unless I am mistaken.

True, they get no air time,etc like major 3..true esp in print media...but thankfully we have internet...for now....Britain seems to have fairer laws governing Parties though than many USA states....but true, media is controlled, hence access to opinions is.....

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #24 on:** August 10, 2009, 07:28:20 AM »

Liberal and Conservative, as they exist at present in the real world, simply mean two sides of the same counterfeit coin: all part of the Judaic-orchestrated, Hegelian dialectic in action. They are simply terms which refer to the "sides" within a completely bogus construct whereby the sheep are led to believe there are still some choices left in their pathetic lives. The end is the same: slaughter. :sheep:

Belloc · « **Reply #25 on:** August 10, 2009, 08:12:08 AM »

Quote from: gladius_veritatis

Liberal and Conservative, as they exist at present in the real world.......

True- a false paradigm to keep others from thinking outside the box......