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Should US stay out (get out) of South Korea?
« on: January 31, 2018, 01:22:05 PM »
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  • RE Buchanan's essay on US defending South Korea against North Korea)



    Buchanan asks:

    What are the U.S. Interests.. [emphasis added] that we should be willing to put at risk... tens of thousands of U.S. troops in Korea and... Asia... in a war that would otherwise be confined to the Korean Peninsula?



    The answer seems to be found further down in the same essay

    2 words (underlined)



    Buchanan:

    … what Americans fear most, and the one thing that deters them, is nuclear weapons.



    Obviously, both the hawks and doves have to be very careful dealing with a country that has (is working on getting) nuclear weapons AND has an unstable ruler/oppressor.

    Who wants war? Not many. But that is why we have to be strong and defy NK, which involves  protecting S Korea, our ally from their aggression/ambition.

    It is called “Peace through strength”

    It seems like a no-brainer that we cannot let North Korea have South Korea, which is apparently what NK wants. To allow Kim Jong Un to take over the South (and if we withdrew our presence, that is what would happen) means losing a big “interest”—South Korea.

    Do we really want  S Korea to be ruled by Kim Jong Un?  Heck, we don't even want the N to be ruled by him.

    Do we need another country in the world that is anti-democracy? Anti-freedom, anti-human rights? Tyrannical? (not to mention: starving)

    We cannot turn our backs on S Korea, which country, to say the least, does not want the kind of government N Korea has.

    We let (1956) the people of Hungary  down (and elsewhere).

    I say: Let's not do that again!

    It just stands to reason that the more countries in the world that are, or that lean, communist and/or are oppressive/tyrannical... the less freedom the USA will also have... I hate globalism but you have to admit that at this point in time, we pretty much have to live in a global economy, a global community (although, thankfully not to the extent we would be doing had “Ms Thing” won the US presidency)

    Don't we have enough enemies in said world community already—I think of the UN

    We need more?

    God knows what the future will be like when/if more and more countries become anti-democracy, anti-freedom, anti-human rights... ruled by a self-absorbed tyrant (or even just a plain old tyrant).

    It is like watching someone drop poison (say, napalm) into your swimming pool and doing nothing because it is at the other end of the pool and will not affect you (right away)...

    As Martin Luther King Jr said  “A threat to justice anywhere is a threat to justice anywhere”

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    Re: Should US stay out (get out) of South Korea?
    « Reply #1 on: January 31, 2018, 01:35:10 PM »
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  • I forgot to say that my thoughts/viewpoint

    are in Italics

    Buchanan's are not


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    Re: Should US stay out (get out) of South Korea?
    « Reply #2 on: February 01, 2018, 04:41:14 PM »
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  • seems a lot of posters here are brain dead when it comes to current events

    Well, when the North Korean bombs destroy your homes, then you will wish you had paid attention... which assumes we can speculate wisely on which areas they will hit and which ones probably not but anyhow..

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    Re: Should US stay out (get out) of South Korea?
    « Reply #3 on: February 01, 2018, 08:19:01 PM »
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  • seems a lot of posters here are brain dead when it comes to current events

    Well, when the North Korean bombs destroy your homes, then you will wish you had paid attention... which assumes we can speculate wisely on which areas they will hit and which ones probably not but anyhow..
    I don't think it's that people are brain dead per se, but that a lot of us hear this stuff on an almost daily bassis and others like myself try and ignore it because individuals like myself are in no position to have any effect on politics and it is just another useless worry in an already unstable and stressful life.
    You can say "when the bombs drop you'll wish you had payed attention", but how do you plan to protect yourself from them? How do you plan to prevent it entirely? If/when that time comes, young folk like me will be drafted (if there is one) so I would be in another place and have to worry about living through that instead of what's becoming of the homeland.
    The future is of much less importance when you are not able to do anything else and are just trying to stay alive in the current moment.
    Many people say "For the Honor and Glory of God!" but, what they should say is "For the Love, Glory and Honor of God". - Fr. Paul of Moll

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    Re: Should US stay out (get out) of South Korea?
    « Reply #4 on: February 02, 2018, 02:28:38 PM »
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  • I don't think it's that people are brain dead per se, but that a lot of us hear this stuff on an almost daily bassis and others like myself try and ignore it because individuals like myself are in no position to have any effect on politics and it is just another useless worry in an already unstable and stressful life.
    You can say "when the bombs drop you'll wish you had payed attention", but how do you plan to protect yourself from them? How do you plan to prevent it entirely? If/when that time comes, young folk like me will be drafted (if there is one) so I would be in another place and have to worry about living through that instead of what's becoming of the homeland.
    The future is of much less importance when you are not able to do anything else and are just trying to stay alive in the current moment.
    true we may not be able 2 do much
    But if we are uninformed or misinformed, then we really, really can't do anything bc in that scenario we can't even write a reasonable sounding letter to our congress people to add our 2 cents worth, which is about what DC thinks our input is worth, give or take a cent or 2 


     

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