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Traditional Catholic Faith => Politics and World Leaders => Topic started by: poche on February 05, 2020, 12:41:52 AM

Title: Sent to Die
Post by: poche on February 05, 2020, 12:41:52 AM
More than 130 Salvadorans have been killed after being deported from the United States since 2013, U.S.-based Human Rights Watch (HRW) said on Wednesday, and it stressed the danger migrants face under the Trump administration's hardening immigration policy.
In a report titled "Deported to Danger," the group said it had docuмented 138 cases of Salvadorans who had been killed after deportation, but stressed the number was likely much higher as there are no official figures.
HRW also found more than 70 cases of deported Salvadorans who suffered sɛҳuąƖ violence, torture or other harm, or who disappeared.
President Donald Trump has toughened U.S. immigration policy to make it difficult for Central Americans to seek asylum, forcing thousands to wait in Mexico as their cases are decided. The issue promises to be a cornerstone of his reelection campaign.
"As asylum and immigration policies tighten in the United States and dire security problems continue in El Salvador, the U.S. is repeatedly violating its obligations to protect Salvadorans from return to serious risk of harm," HRW wrote.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/salvadorans-killed-u-deportation-highlights-050100566.html

What is the morality of sending a fleeing person to certain death?  
Title: Re: Sent to Die
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on February 05, 2020, 04:59:15 AM
What makes you believe that “ Human Rights Watch“ is telling the truth? You do realize that it’s another George Soros linked organization? 
Title: Re: Sent to Die
Post by: poche on February 05, 2020, 05:02:27 AM
What makes you believe that “ Human Rights Watch“ is telling the truth? You do realize that it’s another George Soros linked organization?
I am asking you about the morality of sending a fleeing person, running for their life, back to the person who is chasing them. 
Title: Re: Sent to Die
Post by: poche on February 05, 2020, 05:05:24 AM
What makes you believe that “ Human Rights Watch“ is telling the truth? You do realize that it’s another George Soros linked organization?
I have long felt that we need some kind of tracking mechanism to find what happens to those who ask for asylum and are rejected. 
Title: Re: Sent to Die
Post by: St Peter on February 05, 2020, 06:57:01 AM
I am asking you about the morality of sending a fleeing person, running for their life, back to the person who is chasing them.
Happens every day a battered wife has no option but to return to her husband or a beaten child is sent back to their parents.
Title: Re: Sent to Die
Post by: Bonaventure on February 05, 2020, 08:45:31 AM
I am asking you about the morality of sending a fleeing person, running for their life, back to the person who is chasing them.

Maybe you should check on a map to see where El Salvador is located. That's a heckuva run and flee when one has to pass through two, or three, countries to avoid whomever is chasing them.    

BTW, the irony this situation presents is remarkable.  Having to run from (and through) predominately Catholic countries so that one can make their way to a predominately non-Catholic country.  
Title: Re: Sent to Die
Post by: ByzCat3000 on February 05, 2020, 09:38:49 AM
If we lose the demographic war we lose the country.  Yes, they should be sent back.  And honestly we should just agree and amplify this kind of stuff.  Send them back, if they die they die.  The entire world cannot be our problem.

Letting women, and non white males, vote in the United States was a horrible mistake for so many reasons.  And yes, this is on topic 
Title: Re: Sent to Die
Post by: ByzCat3000 on February 05, 2020, 09:39:25 AM
I am asking you about the morality of sending a fleeing person, running for their life, back to the person who is chasing them.
Yes, send them back.  And send you back to whatever country you illegally immigrated from too.
Title: Re: Sent to Die
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on February 05, 2020, 03:24:27 PM
I am asking you about the morality of sending a fleeing person, running for their life, back to the person who is chasing them.
Maybe they need to stop running and start organizing and take their  country back. 
Title: Re: Sent to Die
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on February 05, 2020, 03:26:17 PM
We have welcomed them into our country.  Then they vote pro abortion democrat  and protest our President while collecting free food, free housing which is stealing.  
Title: Re: Sent to Die
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on February 05, 2020, 05:37:00 PM
I am asking you about the morality of sending a fleeing person, running for their life, back to the person who is chasing them.
And I’m asking you if you believe a Soros linked organization is telling the truth.
Title: Re: Sent to Die
Post by: MiserereMei on February 05, 2020, 07:19:57 PM
Maybe you should check on a map to see where El Salvador is located. That's a heckuva run and flee when one has to pass through two, or three, countries to avoid whomever is chasing them.    

BTW, the irony this situation presents is remarkable.  Having to run from (and through) predominately Catholic countries so that one can make their way to a predominately non-Catholic country.  
It amazes me how little knowledge of Latinamerican history there is on this side of the border. Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ forced independence from Spain and broke up the continent into separate countries. Since then, through interventions and cινιℓ ωαrs, most of the latinamerican governments have been puppets from the American Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ. People remained catholic but the puppet governments introduced Protestantism and other religions to slowly corrupt society and spread ignorance, and with economic and military support they got rid of the real Catholic leaders (e.g. Moreno in Ecuador, Cristeros in Mexico). Latinamerica also received a lot of immigrants from Europe in the XIX century and because of the Catholicism these immigrants were absorbed into the culture (a true melting pot), unlike the US where they remained isolated in groups for several decades. Even though latinamericans are not the same as +50 years ago, even with the increasing corruption, the general population still see each other as children of the same mother (Spain), helping when they can. You can see that with Colombia, Peru and Ecuador helping Venezuelan immigrants. Along the US border, specially in Tijuana, you can see people from all over the world that could not cross into the US (from China, Africa, Haiti, you name it) and even though there is a lot of trouble, there are many Church and laity organizations that work on integrating them to the society because they are not going back to their countries. Unfortunately the drug cartels and gangs take advantage of these desperate people and if they refuse to work for them, they kill them. All of this is hard to understand if you have not lived in these countries, so I don't blame you at all.
Title: Re: Sent to Die
Post by: Yeti on February 05, 2020, 07:29:06 PM
I think you have it backwards. The United States was constantly trying to topple the socialist governments voted into power by the people of Latin America. That's why the left wants to bring those people here.
Example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_policy_of_the_Ronald_Reagan_administration#Latin_America
Title: Re: Sent to Die
Post by: poche on February 06, 2020, 02:27:06 AM
If we lose the demographic war we lose the country.  Yes, they should be sent back.  And honestly we should just agree and amplify this kind of stuff.  Send them back, if they die they die.  The entire world cannot be our problem.

Letting women, and non white males, vote in the United States was a horrible mistake for so many reasons.  And yes, this is on topic
These people are predominantly Catholic. It seems to me that having them here and we could win the demographics.